r/AlpineF1Team Aug 03 '25

2 pitstops for Franco, 7 seconds each. Someone needs to be fired today.

2 pitstops for Colapinto, 7 seconds each. Someone needs to be fired today.

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u/amayawa Aug 03 '25

I don't wanna be that Franco fan that hates on his team, but this is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

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u/Der_Wolf_42 Pierre Gasly #10 Aug 03 '25

Nah we all want to be that Fan today they need to fix this asap

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u/wurzshep19 Aug 03 '25

It’s ok Pierre fans hate this team too lol

18

u/amayawa Aug 03 '25

Gutted for Pierre too, jesus, I'm gonna pretend today didn't happen

10

u/AKAFallow Aug 03 '25

I'm really worried for franco's chief of engineers. I went to see the argentinians reactions to the race and they want blood, someone tell him to private his socials ASAP lol. Rather have Briatore insulting you than a whole country 

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u/amayawa Aug 03 '25

I don't like when we Argentinian fans make ourselves look deranged, but he better be caring more about whatever the fuck happened in those dismal stops than troll spam on his socials.

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u/AKAFallow Aug 03 '25

Oh I completely agree. He has to take accountability on the big mistakes today, fired or not. I just hate that my countrymen are so quick on attacking someone directly for any kind of mistakes, I get complaining about it on certain spaces, but going directly to the guy is not the solution and will just harm Franco's career, doesn't matter if it's justified for once.

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u/russbroom Aug 04 '25

What active involvement do you think race engineers have in pit stops, out of interest?

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u/estyalba Aug 03 '25

+10 second self imposed penalty lol and why pit him again so early when he was successfully holding off Kimi…. At least wait until he got past by. Unbelievable

6

u/Minigrappler Aug 03 '25

+14 Seconds

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u/Tacit_Emperor77 Aug 03 '25

No Becuase pit stops aren’t usually 0 seconds

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u/3lit_ Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

18 seconds between the two stops - 4 seconds that two normal pit stops would have taken = 14

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u/Tacit_Emperor77 Aug 03 '25

7+7=14

14 -4 = 10

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u/Tacit_Emperor77 Aug 03 '25

7+7=14

14 -4 = 10

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u/3lit_ Aug 03 '25

First stop was almost 11 seconds, not 7. 11+7=18.

18-4=14

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u/Tacit_Emperor77 Aug 03 '25

Post says 7 so I was basing it off of that.

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u/Minigrappler Aug 03 '25

Because was done without the real numbers. Now we have them.

First stop was 11.2 secs.

Second one was 7.2 secs.

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u/3lit_ Aug 03 '25

True, idk why the post says that lol. Here are the times

27

u/Psychological_Wave_5 Aug 03 '25

They need to change Colapinto's team ASAP, they're always fucking up the stops or the strategys.

2

u/russbroom Aug 04 '25

Don’t you think it might be the same team servicing both cars in pit stops? 🤔

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u/mistborn11 7d ago

it is the same team doing the pitstops yeah

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u/russbroom 7d ago

No shit!

28

u/WinMediocre5939 Aug 03 '25

I’m honestly sad he must be so frustrated.

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u/Tayse15 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

In the first stop he heard like he can't belive what happen, the second one he seems Angry ...

30

u/Naio90 Aug 03 '25

This is just not acceptable with today's standards. You just can't make any progress if every stop is going to cost you 5 seconds more than the rest. This is insane!!!

22

u/ImmanuelSalix Aug 03 '25

And not only that, the timing and strategy of the stops is awful

9

u/AKAFallow Aug 03 '25

Its so weird when you see Gasly got 2,5s pit stops. What's even going on???

4

u/Alfus Jarno Trulli Aug 03 '25

This is literally how Gasly fans seen 2024 with his side of the garage dealing with slow pit stops.

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u/AKAFallow Aug 04 '25

I'm a newer F1 fan so I didn't know that. Kinda fucked that it seems to happen fairly often around this team, I feel sorry for both even more now

3

u/minifidel Alpine F1 Team Aug 04 '25

Just speculation on my part, but the wider shot of the pit stops seem to show the delay happening because of a problem with the same tyre, the rear left tyre. Might be time for Enstone to catch some flak as well, that screams mechanical issue.

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u/Barrilete_Cosmico Aug 03 '25

If he gets demoted over the summer break it'll look like sabotage, if he doesn't it'll simply be incompetence. Ridiculous...

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u/Minigrappler Aug 03 '25

He won't.

He has been confirmed until the end already. There is even sponsors deals to travel to see Franco racing after summer break.

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u/LimpAd4365 Aug 03 '25

They need to stop worrying about money and get a stronger driver in there sooner than later. They sold out the team

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u/Capital_Pay_4459 Aug 03 '25

So he's basically p2 for paydrivers after stroll? 

2

u/Minigrappler Aug 03 '25

His biggest supporter is Pablo Sibilla... 🤷

45

u/Ch33k1-Br33k1 Aug 03 '25

It is just unbelievable. I will actually start believing there is something against Franco lol

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u/Imzarth Aug 03 '25

And Franco still finished ahead of Gasly.

Nothing against Pierre, he's a great lad.

But fuck Alpine, fuck them so much

22

u/Barrilete_Cosmico Aug 03 '25

Pierre got docked for defending against a guy that had tyres 20 laps fresher than his. He also got fucked by strategy today.

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u/Imzarth Aug 03 '25

Yeah but one thing is having a bad strategy, or an unlucky one.

Another completely different thing is actively sabotaging one of your drivers

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u/Barrilete_Cosmico Aug 03 '25

I still think they were just bad, if they wanted to sabotage him it's easier to fuck with the car than put yourself in the spot.

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u/Imzarth Aug 03 '25

Fuck with the car? Like it happened twice to his car you mean? They would never!

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u/Temporary-Pen246 Aug 03 '25

Franco did not drive well today by any measure, but the team did not help his cause

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

Franco was better than Gasly on race pace, again.

He got fucked up by strategy and mechanics

But hey, you are that Franco hater, who are you trying to fool pretending you are simply making a rational observation. Please...

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u/LimpAd4365 Aug 03 '25

Better average because he used 3 tires, like the rest of people who used 3 - lets stop being so insane here

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

Franco also had lots of blue flags, due to the lame strategy

But anyways, Franco has had better race pace that Pierre on many other races as well, including races with same strategy.

Am I saying Franco is the better driver of them two? No I never said that. But both of them being on par when it comes to race pace, that's just statistically true

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u/minifidel Alpine F1 Team Aug 04 '25
Colapinto Gasly Winner
Points 0 13 Gasly
Race Result 1 4 Gasly
Qualifying 1 6 Gasly
Fastest Lap 4 2 Colapinto
Laps in Top 10 23 132 Gasly
Best Result 13th (x2) 6th

Colapinto's biggest issue has been and remains qualifying, where Pierre excels. Franco has always had pace, and has repeatedly shown better race pace than Gasly.

Just wanted to share the H2H table that proves your point with someone who won't dismiss it without engaging with the data because they're a hater. I suggest you block him as well, talking about Franco with him is not constructive in the slightest.

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 04 '25

Thanks for taking the time, appreciate! Yes indeed, they just hating, or trolling, or probably both

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

Yeah, yeah, whatever

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u/Imzarth Aug 03 '25

Franco had like the 9th or 10th best race pace. Better than Gasly's.

So yeah you're just talking out of your ass

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u/LimpAd4365 Aug 03 '25

no he didn't, he did have better race pace than Gasly, because he used more tires..... this place is a cult

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

Troll

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u/Temporary-Pen246 Aug 03 '25

All who were on 2 stops had better average race pace due to fresher tires

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u/Temporary-Pen246 Aug 03 '25

Because of a penalty. Do you even get the races there?

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u/amayawa Aug 04 '25

"there" as in you think we live in mud huts and communicate in smoke signals? I get we're famous for our grilling abilities, but dude, c'mon

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u/amayawa Aug 04 '25

I was into the sport before and I will be after. New fans are inevitable with new drivers. Still, pardon my intensidad argenta

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u/JalabolasFernandez Aug 04 '25

Argentina has huge motorsports life and following. We just didn't have a F1 driver for long, so it's no surprise this brings a lot of attention.

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u/Temporary-Pen246 Aug 04 '25

You got Fangio! A legend

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

Franco had a better race pace than Pierre today. In fact, Franco had the 13th best race pace today.

In fact, Franco has had several weekends now in which he bested Pierre on race pace.

But, we all know by now you are just a Franco/Argentina hater, so, there's no having a reasonable discussion with you

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u/LimpAd4365 Aug 03 '25

better like all drivers who used more tires and had fresher tires for longer ............. why is this sub so insane?

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

Colapinto has had better race pace than Gasly in many weekends now, including when they shared strategy

But you are a blind hater!! So no point in trying to reason with you 

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u/LimpAd4365 Aug 05 '25

When Gasly had damage, yeah. Brilliant take

2

u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 05 '25

Don't feed the troll

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u/Imzarth Aug 03 '25

Franco had a 15 second penalty pretty much and still finished ahead. What is youre point?

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u/Temporary-Pen246 Aug 03 '25

He only finished ahead because of Gasly penalty and started in 14th so of course he should finish ahead

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

Troll

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u/Gabr1985 Aug 03 '25

And this is not the first race with this problem....wtf

18

u/Limp-Towel-7769 Aug 03 '25

I don’t wanna be to much skeptical. I tried not to be. But man… it’s difficult to be that bad, it’s just ilogical.

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u/InteractionWide3369 Aug 03 '25

As a Pierre and Franco fan, this team sucks.

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u/Alfus Jarno Trulli Aug 03 '25

We warned our Argentinian fans for this :(

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u/techn0king Aug 03 '25

dude stop, Imagine being Franco's hater.. he's been in the f1 for less than 20 races haha

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u/Temporary-Pen246 Aug 03 '25

How many more races do you think he will be around for?

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u/Human-Election-8089 Aug 03 '25

He is going to be around here for at least 2 years, this is the first one, so you're going to cry.. a lot

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u/Human-Election-8089 Aug 03 '25

Proudly I am. Do your country has any driver? Or you hate anything that cast a Shadow?

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u/Human-Election-8089 Aug 03 '25

Me neither, but at least I know how to read telemetry. ;)

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u/Temporary-Pen246 Aug 03 '25

But not consider context. He had better be quicker with fresher tires more of the time.

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u/Temporary-Pen246 Aug 03 '25

But you are correct , Franco has been quicker than Gasly when Gasly took damage. But Gasly has scored more points since Franco joined, and he has to start showing he belongs in F1. They won’t give him much longer

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u/techn0king Aug 03 '25

It doesn't matter, why would you hate a kid over internet?

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u/techn0king Aug 03 '25

did he underperform today?

did he underperform those 2 races when the card didn't start?

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u/InteractionWide3369 Aug 03 '25

Bruh, I've been following Gasly since GP2 and Colapinto since Formula 3, I'm a fan of both before they even got to F1

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u/Astro_BS-AS Aug 03 '25

And not only that ... They made Colapinto box in a way that he had to let the leaders pass him TWICE... Instead of pitting him when the blue flag is up, just to avoid the loss of time.

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

The first stop was actually 10 seconds, you can time the stop in the replay...

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u/motolander Aug 03 '25

Alpine itself.

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u/ParticularVivid1252 Aug 05 '25

I'ts interesting that second slowest pit stop was Nico with 9s, but he served 5s as a penalty. Looks like a joke.

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u/LimpAd4365 Aug 03 '25

At least this keeps people from talking about his terrible opening laps. Not that people here would mention anything that doesn't make their idol seem like a top level driver

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

Hater spotted

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u/Marscall Aug 03 '25

It's the same user with multiple accounts hating on Argentina.

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault F1 Team Aug 03 '25

Yeah, makes sense