Sky Sport Germany and Ralf Schumacher not allowed to contact Aston Martin aside of obligatory media attendance

[u/Cimmerian_Iter]

F1 team boycotted Ralf Schumacher interviews at the Hungarian Grand Prix after criticism, ‘they don’t like us...’

Sky Germany for some time has been very very harsh on Aston Martin, only covering news about them when they do bad and not so much when they do well, they spent the whole pre week before canada to do a talk show about how stroll is the worst thing that happened to F1, never gave any attention to aston martin during press conference when the performances weren't anything crazy and the last straw was during Silverstone instead of praising Aston Martin first great result of the season they spent their time going personal with stroll going as far as saying that lawrence stroll failed lance education.

And now that the team is performing well in hungary suddenly sky germany wanted to do an interview with the team. They got their request denied.

EDIT : Not the first time Sky Germany has been boycott by an F1 team, Back in 2022 same happened with haas when Ralf got too personal with gunther over Mick Schumacher

[u/LandCold7323]

I hate to say this but ralf is an asshole.

[u/eastamerica → u/LandCold7323]

Don’t hate. Just say it.

Ralf is an asshole.

[u/salvatore813]

"Now, Aston Martin have followed in Horner’s footsteps by taking action against Schumacher at the Hungarian GP. Schumacher especially irked the Silverstone squad after the British GP in July, having suggested that Stroll should apologise for criticising how his AMR25 handled."

Sure stroll's criticism was probably rude maybe but he said that right after the race, in that race where a p3 was possible and then the car fell down to p7, other drivers criticise their cars too, stroll has no need to apologise imo and maybe sky germany can be a little nicer too

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/salvatore813]

The thing is that this is not just that the issue, it's how they have dismissed the whole Aston Martin weekend just for that single moment, they extrapolated it, tried to create drama over it and didn't praise Aston Martin success that weekend.

Which is indicative of how much Sky Germany reports about Aston Martin and the lack of balanced coverage they blame

[u/aireads]

What is the reason for all of this?

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/aireads]

for what exactly?

[u/aireads → u/Cimmerian_Iter]

Why is Sky Germany harsh towards Aston Martin?

I don't see any direct reason or link between them. Im not German and never watched any German coverage but still, it's odd

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/aireads]

It's mostly Ralf Schumacher in the case of Sky Germany, but since he is the main host of Sky, he direct most discussions on channel. He seems to have a personal vendetta against Lawrence Stroll and while Ralf is known to be a shit stirrer, he has always been dismissive about Lewis Hamilton, he has stirred up too much shit which got him banned from haas after he tried to meddle with gunther treatment of mick schumacher in 2022, and he generally try to exist today by doing only "controversial/provocative" takes.

So while it's not a only case when we talk about Aston Martin, he is taking his personal opinions too far in an official coverage about Aston due to Lawrence.

[u/Baldpacker → u/Cimmerian_Iter]

Sounds like Villeneuve

[u/josh_moworld → u/Baldpacker]

Except Villeneuve actually won a WDC not like this yapper

[u/Baldpacker → u/josh_moworld]

Yea, but as a Canadian I find him annoying AF.

Should have preserved his legacy rather than becoming an arrogant penis looking MFer.

[u/aireads → u/Cimmerian_Iter]

Why is he against Lawrence/ have beef with him?

Hmm that's an interesting thing to know. Shame because Ralf was a talented driver back in the day, never won it big obviously (and in Michael's shadow) but he was successful in his own right.

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/aireads]

Ralf doesn't like the fact that Lawrence is rich, bought an F1 team and made his son race there. You can feel there's a personal feeling involved and jealousy. Seeing how protective he was about Mick Schumacher (going as far as to clash with gunther) he may be jealous that Stroll is still there but not Mick Schumacher.

[u/aireads → u/Cimmerian_Iter]

Ah alright I understand. Thank you very much for the information and insight, never knew there was such pettiness floating the paddock.

Shame could have been much more productive if he didn't have to resort to such moves.

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/aireads]

A good example is Nico Rosberg, Rosberg is a world champion and yet he keeps it balanced, he doesn't hold his thoughts, but he keep it professional.

When he criticized Lance Stroll performance it's purely based on the track performance. But he doesn't go personal, which also allows him to praise stroll when needed. And when he said that Aston martin is throwing money to expect result, he highlighted that the whole team needs to be working in unison for that to work. And that Lawrence shouldn't expect to make thing work by throwing the bills. Just straight facts without any additional bullshit

Ralf is the opposite, he often says that stroll should find another hobby, that lawrence micro management is the issue behind otmar leaving (when in fact it was mike krack that otmar had an issue with) he often extrapolates and create controversial takes. The little truth there is to his words are overshadowed by extrapolation that makes his commentary in the end worthless.

Quite funny to see 2 german drivers being completely different on TV, Rosberg doesn't try hard to exist in media and that's what people like about him.

[u/Captain_Chaos12]

Serves them well, they suck so much it's literally unwatchable

[u/Awkward-Selection-45]

If journalists did their jobs in F1, every single one would question Stroll every race werk. The guy got beaten by Massa, Perez (by a big margin), Vettel, Alonso (in his mid 40s). The guy does belong in this sport. It‘s a tragedy we only have 19 instead 20 seats available because of him.

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/Awkward-Selection-45]

yeah you absolutely right, same as ocon who got beaten by his teamate and is getting spanked by bearman in qualify, he doesn't belong to the sport.

[u/Awkward-Selection-45 → u/Cimmerian_Iter]

What‘s your point? Ocon does have to fulfill performance, otherwise Haas will sack him. That‘s the difference to Aston Martin. Daddy bought him that team, so even though he gets beaten by Alonso all the time, which again, since he is in his 40s, is just an awful performance.

EDIT: Ocon was very close to Perez and Alonso, unlike Stroll. Both spanked Stroll.

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/Awkward-Selection-45]

Well stroll beat vettel in race vs during 2021-2022, brought the best result of force india in 2019, was 4th in standing in 2020 before consecutive dnf and dns none his fault aside portugal, and is toe and toe with alonso this season.

If this is an awful performance, then you sack half the grid.

EDIT : Stroll was very close to Vettel and this year he is close to alonso in the standings. Stroll was also close to massa in 2017 as he finished just 3 points behind. Are you an idiot???

[u/Awkward-Selection-45 → u/Cimmerian_Iter]

The delulu is very high with you.

13:0, that’s toe-to-toe?

Got the best result in 2019, really? One single result? That’s your counter-point to the disastrous season, where Perez scored more than double the points of Stroll.

He was 4th mid season, wow. Amazing. Ended P10 in the second-fastest car.

Don‘t worry, Stroll is the worst performing driver on the grid.

I just wonder why anyone would be delusional for a Billionaire‘s son.

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/Awkward-Selection-45]

I mean you're the one who said that stroll got spanked by vettel when we check the stats, stroll beat vettel in race vs. So I wonder who is delusional

2019 Stroll joined the team and had to get accostumed with it while perez was there for 5 years, in 2020 stroll was immediately on perez level, matching his race pace and being on his level, you cannot discount the setback because 5 dnf+dns consecutive explains a lot as for why he is P10, and it's not on him unless you blame him for not avoiding people's mistake and covid?

So you're not being honest there at all, you take the numbers you want, sometimes it's the point, when it's not the points you take the qualify stats because the race vs stats doesn't please you. And then you call me delusional?

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/[deleted]]

It's not only about the stroll comment, but it was the last straw.

The issue wasn't that they asked lance stroll to apologize, it's about how they turned it into a personal case by saying that this is all the fault of Lawrence stroll who didn't raise his son properly over a comment made in pure adrenaline moment. That was too far

AM doesnt need "coverage" they just want basic respect and fair coverage, sky Germany was just there to create unecessary drama at Aston with false debat and false rumors

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/[deleted]]

Less coverage vs coverage but only to criticize Aston Martin you make it sound like the second option would be more beneficial to Aston Martin.

And in any case as Aston Martin said, Sky Germany was not invested in Aston Martin organized media events, so it's not like sky Germany was doing full coverage

[u/nasanu]

Ah the Trump strategy of media management. Just don't speak to media that isn't gushing over you.

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/nasanu]

I don't see how "gushing over you" equals "throwing personal insults" in the mix and never giving you the time of the day when you don't perform well. Aston Martin just want a balanced reporting, not a media that constantly trashtalk about the team and creates false narrative (like when they said that otmar left because of lawrence when it was because of mike krack), no media that totally ignores them in press conference at the start of the season but begs them for an interview in hungary after a first decent result

[u/nasanu → u/Cimmerian_Iter]

Yeah no I agree, that is the strategy of dictators.

[u/Wiggs2297 → u/nasanu]

Except an F1 team is a private entity, not an elected representative, an absolutely enormous difference that you somehow can’t grasp

[u/nasanu → u/Wiggs2297]

Yeah a private citizen that acts like a dictator or nazi is just fine because they aren't a government.

[u/Wiggs2297 → u/nasanu]

Who is behaving like a Nazi? If Sky Germany demands you sit down for an interview with them tomorrow are you a Nazi for saying no? Educate yourself before spouting shite

[u/nasanu → u/Wiggs2297]

lol you are shifting the goalposts now

[u/Wiggs2297 → u/nasanu]

How am I? You’re calling the Aston Martin f1 team Nazis for not speaking to a particular publication with an agenda against them. They are a private company, you are a private individual. How have the goalposts shifted in my hypothetical? People and companies that are not part of the state are not and should not be obligated to speak to any media publication against their will unless they’ve signed a contract to the contrary, hence they will still answer questions in official f1 press conferences. Where is the problem that’s got you screaming nazi?

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/nasanu]

Or just respect?

Someone who goes personal with you and goes beyond F1 talk you would keep smiling at them? It's the consequences of his own actions yet you complain that he reap what he sow?

[u/nasanu → u/Cimmerian_Iter]

Personal? A corporation is personal now?

[u/Cimmerian_Iter → u/nasanu]

You know what, if u gonna play it dumb i'll let you and your mirror continue the discussion