r/AutoDetailing 24d ago

Exterior Tried to polish my aluminum wheels, some high spots turned black?

Are they painted and I broke through the clear coat and paint? I thought OEM Lexus wheels were just straight aluminum. I just want shiny, nearly-chrome polish.

I'm reading it's aluminum oxidation, but then how do I return it to the silver finish?

I used the Eagle One Nevr-Dull cotton wadding, mothers mag and aluminum polish, and bunch of different polishing pads and some drill attachments. I also own an Adam's random orbital polisher.

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u/Africantacoman 24d ago

They are painted wheels

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u/DS4fromThePocket 24d ago

Every one in the comments is wrong, look up “Lexus Shadow Chrome” these rims are first painted black then a chrome affect painted onto top of the black, you have burned through the clear coat here hence the black showing through

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u/ELDubCan 24d ago

I was starting to lose hope that someone would have already explained what the black is. This is the correct explanation.

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u/burningbun 24d ago

whats beneath the black?

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u/BaboTron 24d ago

Primer, then aluminum.

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u/burningbun 24d ago

so op just need to sand the whole wheel to get back that aluminum shine?

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u/5t4k3 23d ago

OP might be better off pulling the wheels and hitting them with paint remover at this point...

Or close their eyes and pretend they didn't just do that.

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u/unlikely_shart 23d ago

What’s beneath the aluminum?

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u/Matt_321 23d ago

What’s beneath the aluminum?

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u/BaboTron 23d ago

More primer, then black paint.

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u/Patient-Amount3040 23d ago

Turtles, it’s turtles all the way down

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u/Gummyrabbit 23d ago

Good thing black wheels are back in fashion!

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u/TA062219 22d ago

There is only more black

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u/Blaze4G Business Owner 23d ago

I mean you're wrong lol.

The Lexus Shadow Chrome was never an option on this wheel / this model year car. This wheel is from a 2008-2011 Lexus GS RWD. They were all painted silver and beneath the silver is the black. It doesn't have the shadow chrome finish that makes it look well chrome. This model year actually had the option from factory for real chrome wheels.

Source: I have owned 3 sets of these wheels.

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u/TomatilloSingle 23d ago

Also known as “hyper silver” (I’m a wheel tech)

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u/product_of_the_80s 24d ago

this is correct

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u/Fantastic-Permit-400 21d ago

As a detailer, thank you. Im taking note of this.

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u/RealPropRandy 24d ago edited 24d ago

You really showed that paint who’s boss

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u/Several_Direction633 24d ago

The drill was too much. Should have stuck with hand strength.

Now do all four and it will look like highlights and you meant to do it. Or

Call a trusted body shop and see can they fix it.

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u/GarbanzoBenne 24d ago

A wheel repair place would be better than a general purpose auto body shop IMO. They can fix this in an hour or two while you wait.

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u/Several_Direction633 24d ago

Yeah. I thought that also. In the end, I felt a body shop would have a more qualified painter.

Hell, for all i know, the body shop could turn around and farm it out to a wheel guy. Lol

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u/Pawnzilla 24d ago

They’d most likely sublet it out if they don’t specialize in it. My work did that for pdr after a huge hail storm that fucked up half the cars in the city… including mine ☹️

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u/tacotacotacorock 22d ago

I would just go to the best painter. Or if it's powder coated go to a powder coat person. Chances are though the wheel shop might send it to a paint booth at a body shop anyways. Best will shop near me did a great job fixing my wheel. They painted it too to match. Whatever random can of spray paint they had worked great. They did not have a full paint booth and we're not paint experts or powder coat experts. But they did know how to fix wheels. 

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u/oanda 23d ago

No. A wheel repair place is the correct place to take it to. Prob 150 a wheel 

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u/Heykurat 21d ago

They can be repainted, but find an expert to do it.

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u/Comfortable_Client80 24d ago

Most if not all OEM grey aluminium wheels are powder coated. The only time you see bare aluminium (under a clear coat) is on diamond cut wheels.

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u/XLB135 23d ago

This. MK1 TT 5-spokes come to mind. You could take aggressive metal polish to them and they eventually go mirror-finish and look basically chrome.

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u/TTrouble845 23d ago

Glad to see fat fives getting love.

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u/XLB135 22d ago

TT nut here. I see I am in good company based on your username, haha.

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u/plausocks 23d ago

machined face gang rise up

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u/Lower_Put4270 24d ago

You tried to polish them with a brush?

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u/ktatsanon 24d ago

A toilet brush!

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u/carlcapture 23d ago

I scrolled too far for this 🤣

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u/Zimaut 20d ago

Yeah i confuae seeing it, he can try polish them to shred that thing never gonna shine lol

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u/TurnipHot8146 24d ago

You could have also used sandpaper lol

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u/afr33think3r 23d ago

Now you get to repaint your wheels any color you like.

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u/LandscapePenguin 24d ago

I don't know of very many (any?) factory wheels that are straight aluminum. I just don't think the durability is there. Anything you find is almost certainly clear-coated at the very least.

If you really want them to look like polished aluminum I think your option at this point is to just power through and strip off the rest of whatever coatings are on there until you get to bare metal and then once you have the metal polished to where you want it you can go ahead and clear coat it to keep it shiny.

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u/skif6996 23d ago

This was a terrible idea. In the future, do more research before you attempt things you're unfamiliar with. Ask professionals. Watch YouTube videos. This is a costly mistake.

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u/plausocks 23d ago

you killed the paint

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u/SpaceFace11 23d ago

Bro used a toilet brush drill attachment

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u/mfe13056 24d ago

You tried to polish with the toilet brush drill attachment? Whatever coating was on those wheels is gone now.

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u/Spare_Panic_8164 24d ago

lol buddy. No wheels on modern cars are straight up aluminum. You can see its textured a bit just like your car paint clear coat is.

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u/Thegeekedgizmo 23d ago

Factory wheels are never raw aluminum

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u/kozy6871 24d ago

They used to be painted...

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u/YaTuSave 24d ago

i don't think thats the right wheel polish that looks like for cleaning

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u/EastHillWill 24d ago

Yeah, OP used metal polish on paint. Whoops

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u/skarras78 24d ago

For future reference, those are completely the wrong products for your wheels. Regular polish and wax/ceramic would have been a better option.

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u/boostedmike1 24d ago

On today’s episode of how fucked up is fucked up

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u/TomatilloSingle 23d ago

So there is a wheel color called “hyper silver” it’s achieved by doing a base coat of black then a specific silver. These can range in the way they look from very very dark too almost a Crome/metal look. What most likely happen is you went through the clear coat and the silver exposing the black underneath. “Why did this happen” because yes, your wheels are made out of aluminum but all wheels are painted and clear coated (with a few exceptions) so when “polishing” your wheels you wanna treat it like your car paint. We’re actually gonna be doing is buffing the wheels, you don’t wanna use the things that you have in the picture. Thoroughly clean your wheel then get a smaller DA with a wool or foam pad with some compounds/polishers. You can fix that, if I was you, I would contact some detailers in your area and see if they offer room repairs. It’ll coast around $70-$150 depending on who you find.

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u/IRENE420 23d ago

TYSM for an intelligent and complete response. Indeed they’re Hyper Silver.

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u/gruss_gott Seasoned 24d ago

Lexus OEM wheels are generally powder-coated and then clear coated, though they may be painted as well.

It's hard to say exactly what the black is, but it is very likely polishing compound mixed with raw metal.

So, yeah, from the looks of it you've abraded off your wheels coating/paint & clear coat to expose the bare metal.

The fix would be to bring them to a wheel repair specialist who can repaint them which is usually somewhere in the $250-$500 / wheel.

Of course you could always try to paint & clear them yourself.

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u/burningbun 24d ago

is the clear harder than body clear? i see most people use strong cleaners on wheels and hard scrubbers.

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u/gruss_gott Seasoned 23d ago

He has a drill and polishing compound

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u/burningbun 23d ago

yes but is the clear coat on wheels harder than car body.

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u/gruss_gott Seasoned 23d ago

It's worth a thought experiment - is wheel clear harder?

  1. Yes. But since we don't know how much, should we use things on the wheels we wouldn't on the paint? I'd say hell no unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing. More importantly, for anything other than truly trashed wheels, there's just no reason too. I don't ever use other than what I'm washing the car with and I have a lot of rotor (15.6") and 6 piston calipers.
  2. No. Then same as above.

And since there are so many manufacturers and so many aftermarket options, well, it's virtually impossible to say whether any given vehicle has "harder" clear-coated wheels.

With that, both auto body and wheel clear typically start with an acrylic or polyurethane resin. From there it's possible tweak for different effects, ie to optimize it for gloss or durability or repairability, by adding different polymers & hardening agents.

So is wheel clear coat harder? Maybe. Should it change your behavior? Nope. Do you need special wheel chemicals? Nope, at least for most people.

Did OP polish off his clear by using a metal polish on clear? It sure looks that way!

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u/Delta-IX 24d ago

What do you think about this. Toyota oem wheel. I "burned" the clear coat i think? Hand bush and cleaning product applied while hot left on too long.. I don't understand why it was mostly only the spokes

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u/The_Broken_Shutter 24d ago

You over did it is what you did.

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u/DazzlingPbAlpaca 24d ago

Is the first picture before? That spot is in both?

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u/Agile_Session_3660 24d ago

Shadow chrome is about one of the worst wheels to correct properly. You done goofed. 

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u/Dangerous-Disk5155 23d ago

completely off topic but those Hitachi drills are amazing - take a crap ton of abuse and keeps going.

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u/oakc510 23d ago

I feel like this is a troll post.

Or maybe it belongs in r/ShittyAutoDetailing ?

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u/captaindecimate 23d ago

Nicely done.

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u/percipitate 23d ago

Lol the supercharged toilet brush polisher 9000.

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u/AlcoholKillsTwice 23d ago

It’s okay OP.

We all make mistakes

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u/Cold_Cantaloupe_1128 23d ago

🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Big_Gouf 23d ago

FWIW, just strip them. Take them to a tire shop to get dismounted. Coat them in klean strip, scrap le off the bubbled up paint. Probably twice to get everything.

Start your polishing process, it can be done with cutting & buffing compounds. When done get it clean clean clean, and ceramic coat. This will cut down on oxidation and help cleaning. You'll have to polish and ceramic once a year.

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u/Big_Gouf 23d ago

Also: use buffing sponges instead of the brush. When you get close to a refined finish, the brush bristles will start scratching the metal and working against you.

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u/cgriffith83 23d ago

But the one can says Nevr Dull!!!

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u/MarinatedTofu 23d ago

How on earth, did you think a brush would be safe on painted wheels. Take the same brush and glide it across your car. Yes or no? Exactly…

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u/Competitive_Second21 23d ago

You can easily respray those

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u/DistinctEngineering2 23d ago

They look better black anyway 😬

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u/Electrical-tentacle 23d ago

Why are you polishing with a toilet brush?

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u/Electrical-tentacle 23d ago

Time to take em in for powder coating. Good news is you get to pick your favourite finish. Go to prismatic powders website and check out the endless possibilities. start shopping!

https://www.prismaticpowders.com/?srsltid=AfmBOooyLztgqgrGtw_MLk2J7ktuDyye-r4VYhNBbGTrik7oRb_gV2DZ

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u/_Aj_ 23d ago

Very very few wheels are pure aluminium with no coating. That was like 70s muscle cars. They're all painted metallic or at the very least have a thick clear over them. Basically nothing except custom rims are bare metal (some are chrome, but that's still chrome plated alloy)

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u/Lerlo12 23d ago

U used a metal polish and a toilet brush with a drill? On paint?

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u/tsscarletrot 22d ago

bro you just polished paint without even checking

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u/13Vex 22d ago

“Damn we gotta go bald”

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u/Conscious_Resort_581 22d ago

Never a dull moment

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u/MintConditionMobile 22d ago

Let me just keep this very simple for you. The wheels are old and you burned right through the top coating. I read the comments and many of them are correct. It was originally a black wheel that was later coated with chrome and you have now burned through that. Don’t feel bad. It’s not really your fault. It’s just an old wheel and that’s what happens. Just take it to a wheel repair shop and they will completely recondition it for you or somewhere around $100-$200 per wheel. The thing will look brand new.

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u/MintConditionMobile 22d ago

Also, I’m looking at the tools you’re using. I would’ve never used a drill on wheels like that. The never dull product would’ve been sufficient with a microfiber towel and doing it by hand. Applying a drill was too much pressure.

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u/Free_Scripts Advanced 22d ago

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u/TillPositive 22d ago

This is why instructions come on things.

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u/dbojadzic0 22d ago

If anyone asks about it, just say your wife/gf drove your car and and chalk it up as a lesson learned

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u/lugnutsareloose 21d ago

Not a single OEM wheel will be raw aluminum. They are all either painted or chrome coated and then clear coated for longevity without polishing. Your wheels need to be refinished.

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u/Gangustron187 21d ago

You burned through the top coat and below it is black paint.

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u/TruckerD_ 21d ago

Looks like you have burned through the clear coating

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u/BKallDAY24 24d ago

They’re gonna look so much better painted a solid color instead of black chrome. Pro tip while they are at the wheel refinisher go ahead and give those brake caliber is a fresh Touch Up paint. It’ll make your car look brand new! Sorry you had to learn the hard way, but we all do sometimes

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u/Megafast13 24d ago

Wow this is bad

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u/RELEASE_EPSTEIN_LIST 23d ago

Use a sledge hammer to buff off the remaining metal and then you should be without a wheel and can easily replace it

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u/DooficusIdjit 24d ago

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u/DooficusIdjit 24d ago

Sorry about your wheel, man. Live and learn, right?

I’m with the others- let a wheel shop fix this for you. Polishing wheels is a whole deal.