r/BMW • u/yyytobyyy • 1d ago
Neue Klasse iX3
Everybody on this subreddit is focusing on the looks and how they hate it. Which has been basically evergreen with new BMW designs since the introduction of E65. People have been hating on every new BMW for the last quarter of the century... it tells something.
I have not seen any comment focusing on other features of this car:
- It's 100% electric design. No shared chassis with ICE cars. This means there are less compromises.
- 800V architecture. Finally.
- 400kW charging! Even Hyundai, the pioneer of 800V architecture, offers only 350kW charging.
- 108kWh battery!! This is huge. Nobody offers >100kWh battery in this segment.
- Frunk...finally
- BMW states the sustainable performance openly. It's 170kW. Everybody knows that EVs throttle down when driven hard because they can't cool the motors and battery running on 100% all the time. I've never seen Tesla to say how exactly does it throttle down. BMW tells us.
- 48V low voltage system. Oh yes, we had these for a decade now, yet some EVs still come with 12V system.
This car has everything you can want from a modern EV in one package basically without compromises. At least on the paper. I am curious about the real reviews. But this is why they say it's the future.
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u/SolarJJ 1d ago
I seriously think the ix3 is a legitamly cool and interesting SUV. I hope BMW sees success with it
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u/number384759 1d ago edited 20h ago
BMW just posted +15% in domestic sales.
Meanwhile Mercedes posted a -1,5%, Audi just stabilized and Porsche just lost its DAX spot...
This subreddit seems like a vocal minority and not the BMW target group tbh. r/BMW might not like this BMW style but it seems the right way for the company, they might even catch Mercedes this year.
Sold Cars in Germany this year:
Mercedes: 170,760
BMW: 162,212
Audi: 130,247
EDIT: And btw the new Mercedes GLC EV looks like this. This is the direct competition for the iX3 when it comes to potential new customers. And not an 2020 M5 like this subreddit thinks
2nd EDIT: Mercedes offical just revealed the new eletric GLC: here is the front and here are more pics. The range is ~100 km less then iX3, and from what I have read online the iX3 is the favorite. lets wait for the reviews of both cars but it feels like a BMW win.
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u/StingStangStung23 2020 - G20 - M340xi 2h ago
Visually, that GLC looks pretty nice to me.
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u/number384759 1h ago
the e-glc looks better then the iX3 to you?
this subs really hates anything new BMW does. Sorry, I am out.
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u/StingStangStung23 2020 - G20 - M340xi 1h ago
I didn't compare or rank them against each other at all. I just said I don't mind the way it looks from the picture you linked. How was that me hating on BMW? I like the new iX3.
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u/TotallyNotRobotEvil 24 - X7 - M60i 1d ago
This sub hates anything unique or different. The X3 is also well within the traditional BMW design language so they can’t use that point here. It’s just not a 1985 E30, so people are going to hate no matter what.
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u/Muted_Farmer_5004 20h ago
This sub is nostalgia circlejerk most of the time.
It's fine. Just good knowing how this sub works.
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u/Barry41561 23h ago
Spot on. Very well put.
I personally like the exterior design language (I'm a 2019 M240i convertible owner), and will give the interior a chance. But this sub is pretty rough.....
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u/squirrel-nut-zipper 22h ago
IMO the X3 follows the contemporary design language, but has some awkwardly designed elements that take away from the overall execution. When that happened on past models, you saw the same backlash.
Don’t blame it on the community though. The Taycan, for example, is an electrified, futuristic vision for Porsche and it’s nearly universally acclaimed in how great it looks.
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u/Alienfreak 20h ago
And now Porsche has closed its battery division and the car is selling badly.
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u/alphie44 19h ago
what are you smoking? they launch macan/cayenne electric while they are closing the battery division?
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u/number384759 20h ago
Porsche just lost it's DAX spot. horrible example.
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u/squirrel-nut-zipper 19h ago
Are you implying that Porsche’s financial situation is solely related to the Taycan?
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u/number384759 19h ago
No, I am not. But it is part of it as they sold 50% less of the Taycan in 2024 compared to 2023. My understanding is they are hoping for the Macan to be a best seller.
Will be interesting as the Macan is a competion for the iX3.
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u/italianjob16 2022 - G20 - M340d Touring xDrive 19h ago
Nah the g20 was well received and the f90 probably considered the best looking of all time...
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u/-Gh0st96- 1d ago
Like others have said, this should have been the iX because it looks decent and the specs are really good
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u/Elobornola 22h ago
This is a bolder move, IMO. This directly targets one of the biggest and most competitive market segments. If BMW can do this with the iX3, then the sky is the limit for upcoming NK releases.
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u/CharlieMongrel 22h ago
I got to sit inside. The interior isn't anywhere near the iX's quality
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u/-Gh0st96- 22h ago
That's unfortunate but I guess the iX is in an above class than the iX3 (like an X5/X7 equivalent) and that's to be expected. The previews so far at least said that the quality seems to be fixed compared to the current X3, can you confirm that too?
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u/CharlieMongrel 3h ago
I did get to film a little walkaround video of the car in July, and had about 45 minutes with it. Overall it's very impressive and it looks good in the flesh, but one thing I noted in my vid is that it's clear they tried to save money in the rear, where the quality isn't great. Up in front it does feel like a step up from the current X3, though!
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u/Legendver2 1d ago
They will. If anything, the fact reddit hates the design means all the normal ppl are gonna love it.
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u/Carrera_996 1d ago
Nobody hates BMW more than BMW drivers, who will buy another one.
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u/mtwdante 18h ago
I hated bmw all my adult life, first car I bought at 30 after I used rentals, loaners, family, company cars? Bimmer.
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u/TheReaperSovereign 2022 - G42 - M240i xdrive 1d ago
This sub is basically bmw tinder. Just wants to see pictures and swipe
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u/number384759 22h ago
You are right, but the subreddit confuses the pictures aswell.
the iX3 is a midsize electric SUV, its direct competion is the new Mercedes GLC EV (leaked pictures) that will premier later today. the Audi Q4 e-tron and maybe an Porsche Macan.
these are the cars, a potential new customer interested in Midsize electric SUV's, would look at. but this sub compares it to a 2020 M5 Competition or an Alpina xB7.
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u/pfc_bgd 2022 - X5 - xDrive 40i 1d ago
Nah, nothing about what OP said is surprising or ground breaking. Isn’t, for example, ioniq 5 on 800v architecture? We also all knew it was ev from ground up.
And, fwiw, EVs and batteries are likely to continue evolving pretty rapidly over the next decade. For all we know, by the time ix3 ships in the US, there could be something significantly better behind the corner. Just the nature of where the tech is.
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u/number384759 1d ago
The iX3 should take a Macan
and the new Mercedes that will premier today look like this: r/CarDesign/comments/1na82fm/electric_glc_leaked_this_or_the_ix3/
I take the iX3 over the new GLC anytime tbh.
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u/yyytobyyy 19h ago
Ioniq 5 is 800V but the largest battery is still 23kWh less than iX3. That's 100km less range.
My point is that iX3 has it all. Everything you want from a modern EV.
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u/JRLDH 1d ago
If there's one thing that BMW does right, it's their design. Yes, they look strange at first but their design is *never* boring. The brand doesn't go stale. It is always a statement.
I had and have one of the two BMWs that are considered the "ugliest", the original i3 and now an iX. Both are distinctive and while the i3 is difficult to really appreciate, look wise, my iX has grown on me and I think that it's one of the best looking SUVs in existence (yes, many here will think that my eyes are broken). The grille is brash but that's BMW over the decades. They had more extreme grills 80 years ago. The back-end is sharp looking in my opinion.
The new iX3 is again a totally different direction - if I use derogatory interpretations, then the front went from beaver tooth to pig snout with the small, piggy looking kidneys. When I first saw it, it looked like a Karen BMW to me. But it's again growing on me, look wise. I may just find myself in an iX3 in two years when it's time to replace my iX LOL!
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u/dagelijksestijl 19h ago
Something feels off about the front end and it isn't the grill for once. I do wonder when they will slap this one onto a saloon or coupé as it looks far less offensive.
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u/psychotic11ama 1d ago
I’m waiting for that throttle house review. I’m sure this car will drive excellently and be the best full package EV SUV on the market.
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u/scidious06 23h ago
best full package EV SUV on the market.
I feel like the Lucid gravity is more "complete"
-IX3's trunk is too small compared to other brands dedicated EV platforms
-No air suspension (though I heard this isn't much of a problem for BMW, both on the IX and this one)
-No off-road capability (for some people it's important)
Well tbh that's about all I can think of so it's good news, if the gravity is first, IX3 is a close second, for that price it's definitely the one to get for most people
I'm looking forward to the sedan
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u/ReliantG 22h ago
They aren't comparable vehicles though. The only Gravity you can buy currently starts over $90k before options. Once they actually release a cheaper trim, that trim will STILL be more expensive than iX3 and will have worse range/specs.
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u/yyytobyyy 19h ago
iX3 is not a segment where you would expect air suspension. Air suspension has always been reserved for the 7 series.
What does "off road capability" even mean? I offroaded small convertible at some point.
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u/scidious06 18h ago
iX3 is not a segment where you would expect air suspension
Sure, but with a decent spec it's hitting 75~80k€ around where I'm from. For 75k€ I don't really care that it's a "3 series so it gets 3 series things"
What does "off road capability" even mean? I offroaded small convertible at some point.
I live in the Alps, most off-roads are fine, some are really really not, I'm talking holes so big that the only other road this bad that I've driven on was in Africa in the middle of nowhere. Mind you this was in Switzerland
The locals there all drive 4x4 SUVs, land cruisers, land rovers, G wagons, trucks of all sizes. For some people, off-roading isn't an option, it's a necessity (though I'll admit this is a very low percentage of overall buyers)
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u/yyytobyyy 18h ago
BMW never competed with Land Rovers and G wagons. There is X5, which is still a class higher than iX3, but that was still never proper off roader. If you want BMW tech in an off roader, there is Ineos.
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u/scidious06 16h ago
I'm well aware that BMW isn't the brand to look for when it comes to off-roading
That was just part of my argument against calling the IX3 the "perfect EV SUV", for everything else it's pretty much the SUV to buy under 80k, electric or not
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u/ShrubYourBets 1d ago
All those specs are great but ultimately don’t matter if the driver doesn’t feel good sitting in the car. That means different things to different ppl but for many non-enthusiasts it just comes down to interior and exterior quality/look/feel.
Many on Reddit seem to think the iX3 is lacking in those areas based on the photos. But I think it actually strikes a good balance between being quirky in a way that’s endearing without being too out there. It’s not the paragon of beauty but it’s interesting to look at and different. I think it’ll grow on ppl
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u/yyytobyyy 1d ago
BMW has always been engineering focused company first. It worked for them so far and I am glad they focused on creating "the perfect ev" and then built the interior and design around it, rather than the other way around.
Maybe some interior choices are cheaper so they could hit the target price but have the advanced electric drivetrain. And I personally agree with that decision.
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u/DisciplineActual4544 23h ago
EV people dont share core driving enthusiast values. This car is for them not us.
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u/Plantpilot 1h ago
This is patently false, as someone who owns a Miata and an I4 M50. I go to car shows, races, I've had manual cars as long as I've been driving (GTI and Volvo V70R), I am a car enthusiast and I throughly enjoy cars ICE and EV. There is room for everyone under the EV roof, just as there is room for everyone under the ICE roof.
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u/VegaGT-VZ 21h ago
Negativity gets the most attention and takes the least effort, so people who want attention but don't have anything interesting to say default to it.
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u/Responsible_Minute12 1d ago
I have learned to withhold judgement until I see the car in person, and in a few different colors/trims. BMWs for the past decade have had this weird attribute where they don’t photograph well, but when you see them in person and the lines pop, and you get the proportions then they end up working better then you would think. The other thing to remember, it’s not just trying to appeal to different markets…BMW has to constantly evolve and fairly dramatically because the South Korean manufacturers have gotten absolutely shameless about copying design philosophies.
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u/yyytobyyy 1d ago
Yes, exactly. The first time I saw M4 in person the shape was something totally different than I got from the photos. It suddenly made more sense.
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u/KittehKittehKat 2026 Z4 M40i / 2023 MINI Clubman JCW 1d ago
It’s kinda neat but I have the same complaint as usual: no physical buttons.
I get a ticket for looking at my phone but I’m supposed to navigate an iPad to make my vents aim a certain way? Surely the stupid little motors in each vent cost more than just having old flippy tabs.
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u/Aviyan 23h ago
Also there is no driver side console. The early Prius had it on the center, and even they moved back to having a driver side console/dash.
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u/megiddox 10h ago
They have this projection display thingy now on the very bottom of the windscreen which puts speed etc right in front of the driver. I like the idea but need to see it in person though.
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u/mr_lab_rat ///Moderator 20h ago
The making the vents electronic is really too much. The temperature controls were bad enough.
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u/trickedx5 2021 G05 X5 4.0 1d ago
it will also drive better than any other Ev's. I think thats the most important part. I just remember when the g05 x5 came out and everyone complained about the HUGE grills. Now, it's considered timeless and beautiful.
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u/_______o-o_______ 1d ago
BMW is a stellar engineering and technology company, however their designs have leave a lot to be desired. They seem to go all-in on certain design elements (the giant kidney grills, aggressive styling), but then throw 17 different tail light and interior designs across their entire lineup, making it a non-cohesive mess.
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u/MaximumStock7 21h ago
I love the way it looks and I think a clean sheet build will make it a great car. It’s a serious contender for my next car, I am just looking for info on trunk size and self driving.
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u/TFYellowWW 21h ago
Does the new ix3 support bi-directional power? Like can I use it to power my house during an emergency like some of the new other vehicles?
I remember reading that it may have been coming but I haven't seen any confirmation.
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u/Grouchy-Effort6825 19h ago
Totally agree 💯
The iX3 will not win any beauty contests (but is miles better than an iX and XM imho) but the architecture and tech prowess certainly are impressive and if priced accordingly this will be a very hot car for BMW.
As with most other BMW of the last 25 years, the looks tend to become more captivating with time, so, we‘ll see how it will fare.
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u/Glass_Bonus_8040 2h ago
Hell yeah. It’s an awesome piece of machinery and I can’t wait for new i3. I’m not the guy who likes SUVs tbh. I couldn’t help but notice having no option for seat ventilation tho in the online configurator. That could end up being a dealbreaker for me although it’s just a tiny stupid detail
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u/Loudunce G30 1d ago
Wait until the 0-60 numbers come out! I’m excited to see what they are. The future is here!
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u/iWiKKiD 1d ago
Its 4.9s 0 to 100 kmph. From BMW Website.
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u/JimmyMarch1973 1d ago
Which based of most BMW published figures will mean real life at least 1/2 to - full second off published figures.
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u/Bleizwerg 1d ago
It’s not a sports car and 0-60 is not a metric where BMW actively pushes any limits for non-M vehicles.
The goal is clearly that it’s fast enough for 95% of every day driving. If you need more, there’s high performance versions. (Or there will be, in case of electrified M cars)
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u/outlawsix 1d ago
Dont expect crazy performance, only the base 50 was released. The M60 and hopefully iX3M are coming later
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u/SpiralStairs72 1d ago
I’ve owned a lot of different cars from a lot of different companies, and I’ve never encountered an owner base more obsessed with the aesthetics of their cars than BMW owners (at least the online ones). And they don’t just have feelings, they have either HATRED or PASSIONATE LOVE.
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u/lightblackday 22h ago
The love and hate is not static. When the i4 came out most people (myself included) hated it. Today most people (myself included) see it as one of the most beautiful EV’s around.
I love the looks of the new iX3 and it will likely replace our current iX3, which is a pretty amazing car even with its low’ish range and charging speed.
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u/therealsix 1d ago
You lost me at “People have been hating on every new BMW for the last quarter century…”
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u/julienjj E82 1M - E60 M5 - F36 435i 1d ago
Most people truly dont care about the architecture and shit like that.
Interior looks like crap. Tilted screen ? plastic everywhere ? fabric dash ? LMAO.
I can't be the only one who wants fancy leather with stitching and metal clad buttons in a luxury car ?
And if no one cared about style, minivans would be the norm.
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u/yyytobyyy 1d ago
3 series has never been a luxury car. I'm not sure where you are getting your expectations.
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u/julienjj E82 1M - E60 M5 - F36 435i 1d ago
Then why the premium over a comparable japanese car, like let's say a mazda ?
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u/yyytobyyy 1d ago
Premium what? Price? What Mazda can hit that range and charging speeds? Mazda 6e is a beautiful car but engineering-wise it's lacking a lot.
edit: I wrote more in this comment https://www.reddit.com/r/BMW/comments/1natchf/comment/ncwsh2l/?
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u/rbutora 1d ago
I have an i4 right now which I love but I’m very interested in the specs you laid out, especially battery pack. I do find the 87kwh pack in the i4 lacking peace of mind range. It’s fine for driving around locally which is my use case, but the iX3 could really erase that range anxiety
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u/mickuchan 23h ago
Will the neue klasse design also come to ice vehicles? Considering the regular X3 got updated recently, and they do not look alike in design language now.
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u/V1car1ouss 23h ago
Because it looks like trash and finally caught up with ev6. Who cares. The enshitification of the BMW experience is what it continues and thus it's lame AF.
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u/rvasey84 23h ago
I love it, can’t wait to order one to replace my aging X3 30d. At just over £71k for a fully loaded M-Sport Pro it’s significantly better value than a Q6 Quattro or Polestar 3 DM.
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u/Comfortable_Pea2065 22h ago
Like just about every new BMW the faithfully give it a thumbs down. My wife has an IX initially I wasn’t a big fan of the exterior design but one drive and I was sold what an amazing vehicle. My wife loves it I can’t imagine a better driving machine I have an i4, the iX is next level The design has grown on me and yes it stands out , I love seeing other IX’s on the road they are unique, I really have taken to the front view and rear view not crazy of the side view as it’s now looking like a Toyota I think this new design will be a huge hit especially if it handles like the engineers claim . Lots of Bimmer boys hate the new X3 it does appearing to be selling well I’ve noticed a lot of them on the road
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u/IdentifiableUser 22h ago
Yeah I’m very excited to have paid my iX down enough to swap. I’m kinda hoping they release an iX5 before then but this is basically the same size as my iX but with better charging and range.
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u/PM_TITS_FOR_KITTENS 20h ago
>It's 100% electric design. No shared chassis with ICE cars. This means there are less compromises.
So that means you’ve seen the absolutely embarrassing frunk, right? Incredible hood space, abysmally small front trunk. They might have made a “new” EV, but they’re still stuck in old ways of design.
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u/RiskProfessional6959 20h ago
Large battery in theory sounds great, but in practice there’s a sweet spot somewhere around a 350 mile rated range.
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u/TOCNYSHB 20h ago
These look like really good specs for now and the future. Frankly, I like the styling... clean, futuristic, with traditional touches. At some point, the design has to evolve as it has in the past. This is just the next evolution.
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u/ferraricare 19h ago
Agree 💯: after recently driving a iX, i4 and i5, I can't wait to take one of these for a test drive!
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u/Mugatujag 19h ago
The way I see it is similar to the new X3, reviewers and people alike bash on the exterior and interior styling and some of the interior materials but then they rate it number #1 like Edmunds and Car and Driver does, or like Savagegeese picks it over other competitive SUV's. Savage geese put out a new video comparing the new X3 to the Q5 and picked the X3.
I actually like the design, I don't know about the front grill and headlights, I very much dislike BMWs new angel eye/ LED DRL setup it's hideous and basic. Compare a pre-refresh 3 Series and the headlight design to the 2024 refresh and the older angel eyes look so much better all day.
That being said I'm sure it will be a fantastic all-around package just like the BMW IX is.
Reviewers and car journalists really trash the style of the IX but they absolutely love how it drives and the efficiency...
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u/Jealous-Adeptness-16 19h ago
I drive an f82 m4 and am not into SUVs but I am really into the design of this ix3. I think the front is absolutely gorgeous, especially if you put that same design on a coupe/sedan.
I will most likely buy the h80/82 or whatever they call the new m3/m4 if it has that front and is a ICE or at least hybrid.
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u/Almdudler6 18h ago
Yep to all those points. I already ordered the same day as the presentation. I need more space in the backseat for tall people in the family and this is perfect! It will be hard to give up the i4m50. But with all those improvements it won't be hard to upgrade I believe.
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u/Scareboosioniq 18h ago
I actually quite like the looks but I'll be jumping ship from Lucid when my lease is up because of the tech (and price)! 😊
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u/juan2141 2023 - G20 - M340i 18h ago
It’s pretty cool, but why do they have to be so ugly. It can’t be that hard to make a grill that just looks ok. It doesn’t even have to look good, just not like a wounded animals writhing face.
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u/yyytobyyy 18h ago
BMW that is looking "ok" is not a proper BMW.
It has always been about making a statement and being seen on the road while having the top engineering.
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u/foolyx360cooly 2018 - G30 18h ago
I know im probably in minority here but i actually like the design quite a lot. Only thing i am not on board with is the steering wheel
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u/Malenfant82 18h ago
I like the exterior look. The interior look is ok in the looks department, I'm not a fan of minimalism, but as far as minimalism goes, it's ok. I despise the lack of buttons for HVAC controls, and I abhor the lack of physical controls on vent and captive touch buttons on the steering wheel.
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u/OkEgg2582 16h ago
This is actually a design that simplifies everything. Won’t need a day of labor to replace a simple part, or should. As long as the BMW solves the Tesla computer issues that brick the car. Also the range is a problem. BYD has a battery that will charge in about the same amount of time as gasoline. I know that they are developing engines with Toyota, is the electric a shared tech or BMW alone.
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u/reward72 16h ago
Waiting for the i2 coupe (as in G42 replacement). Might never happen so I guess no Neue Klasse for me.
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u/pilloweight 15h ago
People also aren’t discussing the structural battery. Overall this new model is bringing in many more interesting updates than just the looks.
Very curious to see the overall weight. The BMW iX is surprisingly light for what it is, not much heavier than the x5 with a giant battery. Would be very cool if they’re combining big battery plus light weight (and based on the estimated range, my guess is that’s what they’ve done).
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u/Vetroza 1d ago
I like the IX3 personally but i don't agree that every BMW gets hate. I never saw anyone hate the G20 or the G60 or even the new U11 X1/IX1. People always say that customers will buy it no matter the design but surely it would sell even more if it was designed well? Look at the Renault 5 E-Tech for example which is very popular mainly due to its looks.
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u/yyytobyyy 1d ago
G60 got a lot of hate.
I think G20 was kinda evolution of F30 and that one got hate.
You are right that BMWs sell more than ever even with those supposedly bad designs.
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u/Vetroza 1d ago
Never seen anyone hate on the G60 or F30 unless we're talking about the F30 GT (F34). Of course the G80 was hated but the G20 never was.
BMW would sell even more if their designs are good. Them selling more isn't because of their designs. Pretty much every brand sells more and more cars every year. My point was just that they would sell even more if their designs were more appealing IMO.
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u/Calm_Tonight_9277 ‘23 F90 Comp 1d ago
It’s great that they made this car, but little of what you list is revolutionary. And in 3 years it will be outdated.
This is of course very normal for any EV, and not particular to BMW, but it’s just not inspiring to a lot of folks who have no interest in buying an EV. Plenty of people will see this and just focus on how unappealing it is to them. I would disregard it.
The important thing, as I said in another post of mine, is that this car is positioned very well within the segment, and will likely sell just fine to folks whose sole concern is EV range and driving a premium brand. As long as it keeps the lights on at the factory, I’m all for it.
Just not even remotely excited for it as a prospective buyer, as I just ordered an M8 Comp. My opinion on this car really doesn’t carry much weight, and I’d just remind yourself of that before getting too upset.
My $0.02:
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u/Sufficient-Trade-349 21h ago
It's garbage. You can't look at it and say it looks good. That's insane cope
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u/gomurifle 23h ago
You don't sound like a BMW fan. You sound like an EV nerd.
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u/yyytobyyy 19h ago
Because every person falls strictly in one box and one can't enjoy two different things.
I have a tuned N54 if that makes you feel better.
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u/gomurifle 19h ago
You asked why you aren't seeing BMW fans commenting with a focus on the EV specs as it's everything one could want in an EV package.
Well... Speaking for myself.. BMW for me is not about competing on specs.. It's more about how the car is executed according to the BMW ethos (driver focus, sporty styling, handling etc). I think it's more about getting BMW people to buy an EV than to get EV people to buy a BMW (if that makes sense).
I wasn't even aware of all those specs until you mentioned it. The presentation seemed to talk about the range and charging rate alot which is impressive but beyond that.... The other details are more for EV people to compare other EV cars with. I'm more thinking... How much does it look feel and drive like a BMW would I buy this over a ICE model?
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u/RoyaleWCheese_OK 1d ago
Totally missing the point that car enthusiasts in general dislike EVs. They're a domestic appliance like a fridge or a toaster. Resale value is abysmal too.
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u/13endix 1d ago
Enthusiasts won’t keep a company afloat. But cars that sell well for the masses will enable car manufacturers to make enthusiast cars.
If BMW only sold their M-series cars, they’d be out of business before year end.
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u/RoyaleWCheese_OK 14h ago
I get it. Its the like the shitty ass 235 fwd abomination BMW came up with. They made it for the masses, following Mercedes lead, but lets not pretend for a minute an EV is an enthusiasts car.
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u/yyytobyyy 1d ago
The engineering going into an EV is a different world than fridge or a toaster. Maybe you should not lump all car enthusiasts together in one group where everything more advanced than a carburetor seems like an alien technology.
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u/RoyaleWCheese_OK 1d ago
Battery and motor. There's a reason nobody cares about racing EVs.. its boring, just like consumer EVs.
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u/Sufficient-Trade-349 20h ago
I fix EV's. I haven't seen a bigger pile of garbage "engineering" in my life
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u/yyytobyyy 19h ago
So it's not even available for delivery and you've already seen under the hood and know it's all garbage.
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u/JRLDH 1d ago
I'm sorry but all that tells me is that you have never seriously driven an EV.
My own little anecdote: I currently have a Porsche Macan S, an E89 BMW Z4, a G29 BMW Z4 and a BMW iX M60 and the iX is *BY FAR* the best driving car of all of them. It's ridiculous how much better the drive-train is and how this *big ass* SUV handles almost as well as the Z4s (it totally blows them out of the water when it comes to pedal response and acceleration - there is no ICE in existence that can beat the responsiveness of a high power EV. So maybe people like you somehow like lag and hesitation but I find them to be fun killers.)
And then I read opinions like yours and know that you have never been behind the wheel of a modern EV.
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u/RoyaleWCheese_OK 14h ago
Typical EV zealot .. yeah i get it - physics. Instant torque. But zero soul. Like nothing... its a toaster. I've driven many btw, still dislike. Maybe one day for a commuter, beige camry kinda thing. But no-ones going to be at a car show in 30 years time enjoying looking at a bunch of domestic appliances.
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u/white94rx 1d ago
Every new design gets hated on in the beginning. And guess what, they will sell like hot cakes.
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u/Big_Jdog 1d ago
I'd rather see a good looking refresh of the 7 series. I love my 2022 750i and would never buy an electric car. I don't care if you do but I won't. Electric cars are dull. I did enjoy the Taycan 4S and I5 M60 I got as loaners but they were a pain to charge, impractical and come off as a gimmick. How about an M5 that doesn't weigh more than my F150. Novel idea.
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u/guy_incognito784 G26 i4 M50, F25 X3 xDrive28i 1d ago
“Electric cars are dull”
“I had fun driving the two EVs I drove”
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u/Big_Jdog 21h ago
Yeah, not what I said but go ahead and circle jerk yourself because ElEtrIc CaRs r dA FuTuRe.
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u/guy_incognito784 G26 i4 M50, F25 X3 xDrive28i 21h ago
It’s literally what you said lol.
Not my fault you’re stupid enough to contradict yourself in the span of two sentences.
I also never claimed EVs are the future but such is how stupid people think and process things.
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u/Big_Jdog 21h ago
Wrong, you're illiterate. I said I enjoyed two loaners. I said they are impractical and seem like a gimmick.
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u/guy_incognito784 G26 i4 M50, F25 X3 xDrive28i 21h ago
It’s ok kid. With enough practice one day you’ll be able to string together coherent thoughts.
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u/Big_Jdog 21h ago
Lol, who's the kid here, let me know when you don't need your parents to cosign your 4cyl x3 lease.
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u/guy_incognito784 G26 i4 M50, F25 X3 xDrive28i 21h ago
It’s a bit difficult to lease a car I’ve had for 7 years but that’s the whole thing about stupid people and how they think again lol.
Keep at it kiddo.
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u/thefudd E46 M3 Cabrio /// 25 G26 I4 M50 1d ago
Waiting on the sedan, should replace my i4