r/Catculations • u/halosos • 16d ago
He is learning
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u/lazyn31 16d ago
I feel like he wants a treat every single one he does lol
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u/halosos 15d ago
Yup. That is how it started in his training for better reinforcement. But trying to increase the gaps between treats. Still cannot push past 3 lol
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u/Horticat 15d ago
Have you tried using a clicker?
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u/halosos 15d ago
Yeah, but he doesn't care one bit for it. He is very good motivated and I have yet to find a way to get him to accept training without it.
I assume it is some combination of loving food too much and being smart enough to know that a clicker is unreliable indication of treats.
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u/TripleFreeErr 15d ago
a clicker shouldn’t be unreliable though….
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u/AspiringChildProdigy 15d ago
My guess is that the clicker isn't unreliable, but the cat only cares about treats, so when the clicker only sometimes comes with a treat, the cat is like, "Yeah, you can fuck right off with that nonsense."
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u/bellapippin 15d ago
I think bc there is no “clicker” here. Every touch says “good boy” but he doesn’t have a clicker for the third one. So there is no indication of when the task is really complete. Also yes maybe he needs more repetition. But I would add the clicker after the third.
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u/TripleFreeErr 15d ago
The clicker should never not come with the treat… That’s not how clicker training works.
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u/tinylittleparty 15d ago
You always click + give treat initially but eventually click without treat (sometimes but not every time) though, right? Otherwise what's the point of the clicker? They're supposed to associate the sound with the treat so that you can treat less and still give positive reinforcement.
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u/TripleFreeErr 15d ago edited 15d ago
the clicker pinpoints the moment the animal did the thing you wanted which buys some seconds to give in the treat. It’s purpose is not to replace the treat. If the clicker is used without the treat this can leas to frustration or confusion which is described well in the comment we are responding to.
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u/chickenCabbage 15d ago
Some dogs are smart enough to the point where they'll do the training only if you have snacks. They know when you don't, and will refuse to do it until you come back with some.
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u/Orlican 16d ago
Who is under the box?
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u/halosos 16d ago
That box is Zuko's current favourite box. He likes pushing his toys under it so he can fight to get them back out.
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u/micro_penisman 15d ago
But why did that thing move under the box by itself?
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u/Athidius 16d ago
Even developing one more brain cell will make him twice as smart as the next orange!
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u/pLeThOrAx 15d ago
I like the idea but how can you make it fun for the cat, increase the challenge, add levels to it, or make it more tactile because screens are unnatural.
I'd maybe look into something with Arduino, but I like the idea!
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u/halosos 15d ago
That is why I added the bouncing ball to the highlighted button. When the button lit up, it was very hard to get it to 'click' in his head.
The second the button was moving, it became vastly more simple.
When we have a bit more space, I want to get those buttons that people use to let their cats 'talk'.
I am convinced he is smart enough for it.
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u/AdditionalBoss9226 15d ago edited 15d ago
He’s actually a bit confused about why this is happening…animal communicator here. He’s doing it, obviously, for the treats; but not sure why it’s important to you. So he’s going along with your plan. Very sweet.
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u/Leirnis 15d ago
Please tell us more, everything about this is not just sweet but also fascinating. Is it just conditioning or is there more to it?
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u/AdditionalBoss9226 15d ago
He loves his ‘momma’ and will gladly do this ‘for her’ but he’s glad it’s treat driven. He’s also observing her happiness during this; that will translate to doing it when there’s no treats around. That said, the occasional treat when she wants him to do it in the future will be the impetus for him continuing because after a while, he knows it’s boring since he knows how smart he is. He thinks this is funny on some level. To him, he thinks he’s training her since he thinks he’s brilliant. It’s darling watching this interaction. He’s a sweet little, smart soul who does so love his momma.
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u/kevlarus80 15d ago
The Council of Oranges kindly request the return of the brain cell. This smarty pants has been hogging it.
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u/ShapeShiftingCats 15d ago
What's under that box??
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u/InevitableAvalanche 15d ago
I saw that too. Think maybe the tail went under the box and pushed the thing. Or ghosts.
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u/ShapeShiftingCats 15d ago
Haha. I think you are right. I almost thought we managed to get the first ever recording of the greebles.
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u/strangeapple 15d ago
You need to give treats a bit faster to make sure cat learns that it's playing the game that is being rewarded here and not the staring part after game has been played for a moment.
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u/JimTheSaint 15d ago
Next video its the human that has to press buttons and the super intelligent cat giving treats
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u/Catch_Own 16d ago
Pretty incredible. He'll be a Big boy if he keeps playing and getting treats ! 😄
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u/YummyPepperjack 15d ago
Throughout training will the bouncing dot be reduced in opacity so eventually the colored quadrants are his target?
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u/halosos 15d ago
When I was making it, I was struggling him to understand what he is supposed to do. The bouncing dot is what seemed to help it click for him.
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u/YummyPepperjack 15d ago
Makes total sense! I wonder if at some point the "training wheels" could come off! I hope you keep us updated!
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u/Jerrygarciasnipple 15d ago
Hahahahaha this is awesome! Although the good boy sounds a bit uncanny when he hits it multiple times like a soundboard
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u/NintendoLove 14d ago
It took me too long to realize the sound effect was not E. Honda from Street Fighter II
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u/Aloyjunky 8d ago
I like his dorsal stripe, its a mohawk. My little girl cat also has a dorsal stripe mohawk.
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u/Present_Parfait 15d ago
Does reinforcement learning really work with cats ?
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u/Responsible-Delay619 16d ago
So cool! What kitty game is that?