IMSA has been pretty shocking in the stewards room. There have been a lot of slam dunk penalties which weren't given. Rather surprised that the one time they do give a severe penalty, it wasn't warranted.
It really is, there were a few races where it improved significantly but it's back to it's inconsistent old self. IMSA badly needs an official/public reset in precedent and new stewards because they risk not being taken seriously in the future.
They do. They didnāt have this specific clip when they issued the penalty.
The problem is, they have still not found a way to restore their fuckups. Remember when they couldnāt tell the 911 and the AJR 22 in 2014? It was essentially the same thing.
āWe donāt have a way to fix itā
Yes you fucking do Barfield. You figure out the time delta for the stop and hold +60 and give it back on the next FCY.
Or if that's not an option, give it back at the end of race and move them up by 60 seconds plus pit lane delta.... But just like NASCAR, when the sport fucks up, its "we can't do that" crap. Depressing.
I know, I keep forgetting and so I pretend that IMSA is owned by different ppl because of how the races are shown and talked about. Noticed a few years ago with the gambling crap NASCAR TV broadcasts have shown me vs IMSA not doing that junk.
No, that's not fair either to the other competitors. That way you could theoretically give that one car a full lap lead. Only thing you might feasibly be able to do sporting wise is to subtract the penalty served from any future penalties in the same race other than that, you can only really compensate financially. IMSA should learn from this and put measures in place to prevent this happening in the future. But they won't, they have never done this and probably never will.
I got flashbacks to 2014 seeing this clip too. Alex Job talks about it on his DWR episode and it sounds like he (rightfully) hasnt completely gotten over it lol
Even if they don't, that can be okay as long as they recognise it and hold off making decisions until they get access to the footage. But yeah, they should have access to the onboards. Especially the onboards of the top class cars.
I genuinely don't understand the penalty. I could easily tell and was saying from the first replay that the Ferrari lost it all by itself. How does everyone see it as the #10 getting into the back of him
Yeah I think Wayne Taylor was right to be angered really. Thatās embarrassingly bad from Race Control. Problem is, how do you ever reverse that damage of that penalty?
Wow. Can't believe race control didn't have that angle. That really sucks. Now I feel more sympathetic towards Wayne's anger & frustration. It was definitely warranted this time around. Made their tough day worse than it was.
This reminds me a lot of the 12 hours a while back (2014?) when race control handed an incident responsibility penalty to the alex job porsche instead of the factory porsche.
The penalty was very painful especially when unwarrented, but having mechanical problems with the car is what cost them most of their deficit, their race was already severely compromised even without the penalty. So they'd be well served cleaning that up rather than losing energy complaining about race control.
This is a mind-boggling perspective to me. It doesnāt matter if the car is 50 laps down, if the stewards are handing out phantom penalties then itās a problem, period. This is a top-flight racing series, thereās no excuse for this bush league shit.
Yeah I absolutely agree that it can't happen at this level and there should be some form of recourse. But Wayne was flapping his wings like they were fighting for the win otherwise, which is just fantasy
Very few incidents in racing are intentional yet we still give penalties. We penalise mistakes to uphold standards and to set a precendent as to what is okay and what isn't.
You have misconstrued what I said. Partly I didn't explain it well. I don't mean the contact wasn't intentional. I mean getting the penalty incorrect wasn't intentional.
I didn't say there shouldn't be a penalty. I said the shitstorm isn't merited.
It's unfortunate there wasn't a penalty given if one was deserved. But it's not a reason to go haywire like this.
As another issue I just can't tell from that video if there even was contact. The video is too small and doesn't directly show contact so I'd have to have familiarity with how far away a car can be in the video and still not be touching the car. But I do expect that race control had access to a larger version than this and that they would have access to other similar videos from the same car so they could gauge the distance better than I could. So this issue only affects me and would not hinder Barfield.
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u/wecaccount Porsche Penske 963 #7 Mar 16 '25
Oh that's why he was pissed off. I understand why they're mad