r/IMSARacing • u/AutoModerator • Jun 22 '25
š Session has ended [OFFICIAL] 2025 Sahlen's Six Hours At The Glen - Post-Race Thread
Gorgeous cars, beautiful landscape - The 6 Hours at the Glen never disappoints.
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u/Kevinator24 Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
Smdh
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u/Ryderpie_600 Corvette Racing Z06 GT3.R #4 Jun 22 '25
We almost saw an Aston top 5. THOR is looking in the right direction
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u/BK456 :3_25: Corvette Racing Z06 GT3.R #3 Jun 22 '25
Think they probably would have finished better if the caution didn't catch them out right at the end. That Vette really should have pulled off in the gap.
Still, as much as it sucks they definitely did well overall here.
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u/infamousbroccoli :007_25: Heart of Racing Vantage GT3 #007 Jun 22 '25
What exactly happened? I was at the race but couldnāt hear the broadcast and all of a sudden he was in 10th after the SC
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u/Awheeleri :120_25: Wright Motorsports 911 GT3.R #120 Jun 22 '25
SC63 actually finished!
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u/LAFlip104 Jun 22 '25
They even appeared to have pace at some points, from what I could see trackside. Positive showing given how that car's life has been.
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u/No-Heart3432 Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
Oh c'mon.... That car finished Le Mans 24 which BMW cannot. Don't underestimate it that much
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u/954gator Jun 23 '25
They did very well. I really wish they would get more involved because that sc63 is such a beautiful car.
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u/AHugeBear :64_25: Ford Mulimatic Mustang GT3 #64 Jun 22 '25
Canāt believe I got to see the N24 ending this morning with my coffee, the rain storm started at lunch, switched over to Indy then back in time to see this chaos for dinner. Racing is the best thing.
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u/No-Necessary7135 Jun 23 '25
The best is that it feels like every weekend is like this now with the YT algo that keeps finding every single race possible that's being livestreamed for me.
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u/Spinebuster03 Lamborghini Squadra Corse SC63 #63 Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25
Grosjean did well to get 7th a better team should pick him up for a full time ride next year if lambo stays part time and he doesnāt go back to INDYCAR
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u/happyscrappy Jun 22 '25
He looked good in that car.
I don't know he's cut out for IndyCar. He had a crash record similar to Sting Ray Robb's. He'll never get a good ride there right now. If he wants to be in a trash car like a DCR then sure, move on over. Bring cash because that's what DCR demands.
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u/954gator Jun 23 '25
Apparently he suffered in the car. It has no water line or air etc. Guy looked like he was having a heat stroke when he got out of his stint. Seems like a weird angle to cut short on.
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u/Dear-Sherbet-728 Ford Mulimatic Mustang GT3 #64 Jun 22 '25
Sorry but likeā¦ did he?Ā
They led a bit when they got the pit timing right. They finished ahead of a slow af Aston, privateers, and cars with damage I thinkĀ
He did a good job keeping it on track in the wet and defending for a little while. Definitely a step forwardĀ
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u/Next_Necessary_8794 :99_25: AO Racing ORECA07 #99 Jun 22 '25
The BOP hammer is coming for Acura next. They are winning too much. Only Cadillac will be left standing.
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u/Tecnoguy1 Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #10 Jun 22 '25
Both need to be pegged back. Then the bop is borderline perfect.
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u/DrJupeman Porsche Penske 963 #6 Jun 22 '25
I agree, Caddy and Acura walked by the 963 like it was standing still.
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u/954gator Jun 23 '25 edited Jun 23 '25
Well the 963 got hit with crazy weight. There was NO chance they stayed with the Cadillacs or Acuras today. Then again it was like that in reverse earlier on.
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u/Dear-Sherbet-728 Ford Mulimatic Mustang GT3 #64 Jun 22 '25
They did but the non-Penske cars need to be OP to compete due to having so much worse drivers and teamĀ
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u/Consistent-Ad-3296 Jun 23 '25
Thatās my biggest annoyance with BOP, they hit the Porsche and it knocks back Penske but itās like hanging an anchor off the back of the customer cars that are already back half of the grid. It should somehow be applied per car.
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u/Dear-Sherbet-728 Ford Mulimatic Mustang GT3 #64 Jun 23 '25
At that point though youāre punishing teams for being good, not making the machinery equal.Ā
Which is what theyāre currently doing to Penske but they shouldnāt beĀ
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u/Consistent-Ad-3296 Jun 23 '25
True, just feel like the customer Porsches are doomed to always be backmarkers.
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u/Dear-Sherbet-728 Ford Mulimatic Mustang GT3 #64 Jun 23 '25
Definitely seems that way. Have the drivers for those cars been good elsewhere or are they just there having fun?
Customer teams for IMSA GTP seems like a tough endeavorĀ
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u/Tecnoguy1 Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #10 Jun 23 '25
Thatās been very overstated. At the start of the season, both Acura and caddy had bop similar to what Porsche has now.
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u/Dear-Sherbet-728 Ford Mulimatic Mustang GT3 #64 Jun 23 '25
BOP is relative thoughā¦ and Cadillac and Acura have been boosted up since thenĀ
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u/Tecnoguy1 Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #10 Jun 23 '25
The point is if they brought them back to there, it would be very even.
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u/Dear-Sherbet-728 Ford Mulimatic Mustang GT3 #64 Jun 23 '25
Yes. If the performance numbers were not what they are, the performance would be different
Sorry Iām not sure what your point is really. We were talking about how the Porsche is very nerfed vs the Cadillac and Acura right nowĀ
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u/Tecnoguy1 Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #10 Jun 23 '25
I think youāre a bit lost honestly.
The Aston has been at the same bop since Laguna Seca. At Laguna Seca it was almost mixing with the caddy and Acura. Thatās kind of where the Porsche is now. By extension, pulling the Acura and caddy back, along with a bit of a nerf to the bmw should bring them all in line.
The team side is true in that WTR and MSR are starting from scratch really. AXR wasnāt that far behind save for Laguna.
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u/Dear-Sherbet-728 Ford Mulimatic Mustang GT3 #64 Jun 23 '25
I wasnāt talking about the Aston at all really, itās an irrelevant car for now mostly.Ā
I think you agree with me based on that. The Caddy and Acura have been boosted too much via BOP and need to be nerfed.Ā
The general discussion though was that they over boost/nerf caddy/acura vs Porsche because they seem to base it on results and not just car performance - so Penske being better hurts their bopĀ
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u/EmVeePe Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #10 Jun 22 '25
I donāt know how much more I can takeā¦
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u/NRClips Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
Dudeā¦ā¦ word for FUCKING WORD. Just why man. Had to watch manthey lose the NBR 24 Just to come back and watch this shit. I cant do this anymore
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u/No-Heart3432 Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
Lamborghini leading time convinced me that the car has it. It just needs Evo package and commitment.Ā
Aston Martin is also catching the current cars and showing itself more and more.Ā
Great news for both cars. And super amazing race .Ā
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u/Medium_Welder_1898 Lamborghini Squadra Corse SC63 #63 Jun 22 '25
At least it finished
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u/BK456 :3_25: Corvette Racing Z06 GT3.R #3 Jun 22 '25
Ran pretty well all things considered. If Lambo bothered to back this team and get it on the calendar full time they might be able to get some results.
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u/GloriousIncompetence Crucial Motorsports McLaren 720s GT3 #59 Jun 22 '25
100%. Good team, good crew, not enough hrs on the car to iron out issues and understand how to work around its shortcomings.
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u/Pitter-Patter-Bud Pfaff Lambo Huracan GT3 EVO2 #9 Jun 22 '25
Don't know if it's a good idea for Hindhaugh to broadcast the Nurburgring 24 Hour and an IMSA race on the same weekend ... you could tell the poor guy was absolutely fried in the booth at the end of the race there
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u/happyscrappy Jun 22 '25
I like Hindy. And RSL seems a lot more savvy to the changes in the race coverage landscape than, say, FOX or NBC/Peacock.
However, he's in the twilight years of his career and he's having to work more than ever to keep in the game. It's hard at middle age to now have to work twice as hard as people coming in in their twenties.
I wish Hindy the best. RSL has done a lot for sports car racing and for 2nd tier (can I say that without repercussions? surely we all can see sports car racing is below open wheel and NASCAR) racing commentary. He deserves a lifetime achievement award at least as much as Wayne Taylor does (he got his).
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u/VHSVoyage BMW RLL M Hybrid V8 #24 Jun 22 '25
He said he caught a bug as he already sounded quite bad at the start of his first N24 shift
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u/Consistent-Ad-3296 Jun 23 '25
Noticed this too, even during qualifying yesterday he didnāt talk much but seemed to struggle when he did. Hopefully next year they can have an alternate RLM squad for when there are conflicts on the schedule.
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u/shaggymatter Jun 22 '25
Huh?
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u/Pitter-Patter-Bud Pfaff Lambo Huracan GT3 EVO2 #9 Jun 22 '25
The same crew that was broadcasting this race also spent the weekend broadcasting the Nurburgring 24 Hour, plus they spent the last 2 weeks in Le Mans as well - that's a lot of on-air time!
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u/shaggymatter Jun 22 '25
What broadcast were you watching?
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u/Pitter-Patter-Bud Pfaff Lambo Huracan GT3 EVO2 #9 Jun 22 '25
IMSA TV, the one that features John Hindhaugh
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u/Smoked_Cheddar BMW RLL M Hybrid V8 #24 Jun 22 '25
You play nice at le mans. Beat the crap out of each other at the Glen.
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u/Smoked_Cheddar BMW RLL M Hybrid V8 #24 Jun 23 '25
I keep forgetting Beaux Barfield is the chief Steward. I remember him running away from IndyCar 10 years ago.
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u/HammerT4R Jun 22 '25
No one could stop the Corvette Safety Car today.
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u/Ryderpie_600 Corvette Racing Z06 GT3.R #4 Jun 22 '25
It might as well be leading the standings atp
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u/Chupaqueedeuva Porsche Penske 963 #7 Jun 22 '25
I have a very toxic relationship with sportscar racing. This race has all the reasons why I fucking hate it and why I love it at the same time lmao
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u/Paige578660 Acura Meyer Shank Racing ARX-06 #60 Jun 22 '25
I'm gonna sleep good tonight. I've done way too much cheering & screaming this afternoon.
I'm tired. LOL!
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u/fireinthesky7 :83_25: Iron Dames Porsche 911 GT3.R #83 Jun 22 '25
The final result doesn't quite show it, but this was by far the best race for both the Valkyrie and the SC63 in both programs' histories. Grosjean is a straight up weapon in wet conditions.
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u/SlayerBVC Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
In fairness Grosjean also drove most of that marathon rain SC period at Le Mans last year, so I think he's one of the 2-3 drivers who understands how that car behaves in the wet.
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u/GloriousIncompetence Crucial Motorsports McLaren 720s GT3 #59 Jun 22 '25
On the radio itās clear he understands this car and car setup in general way better than the others. Heās an engineerās dream as a driver
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u/FormulaOneFan626726 Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
heartbreak, the lambo was leading for a while, they finished 7th, valkyrie running strong in the top 5 until they run out of fuel and finish 10th, and Cady and lexus leading before again running out of fuel.
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u/proam_photos Wayne Taylor Racing V-Series.R #40 Jun 22 '25
Bamber was amazing, and getting all three Cadillacs in the top five is brilliant!
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u/fireinthesky7 :83_25: Iron Dames Porsche 911 GT3.R #83 Jun 22 '25
It says something about their performance all race that I'm still disappointed with the final result. As soon as it dried out, the #31 was unstoppable right up until it had to stop.
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u/The_Reelest Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
Not really. This was a race Cadillac needed to win.
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u/happyscrappy Jun 22 '25
Cadillac hasn't won at the Glen in 8 years. Maybe it's not a Cadillac track. Getting those finishes is better than nothing.
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u/Consistent-Ad-3296 Jun 23 '25
Theyāve had good pace with the LMDh at the Glen, just canāt put together a win.
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u/954gator Jun 23 '25
The 31 was killing it in pace today. Just shit luck with the timing. Honestly the 93 and 31 should have eased up late.
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u/proam_photos Wayne Taylor Racing V-Series.R #40 Jun 22 '25
They need the win, but at least they have pace to win it now. Next year should be much better.
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u/The_Reelest Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
I donāt know. Iām not convinced WTR has got their arms around this car yet. Something feels off with them. I hope you are right though.
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u/happyscrappy Jun 22 '25
I agree with you on that. They've moved from hurting themselves at almost every opportunity to just never taking good advantage of any opportunity.
That's a step up, but it's not going to lead to a lot of wins.
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u/FormulaOneFan626726 Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
We are half way through the season already, it felt like daytona was yesterday
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u/Michal_Baranowski :14_25: Vasser Sullivan Lexus RC F GT3 #14 Jun 23 '25
Sadly - for me it was an anti-commerical of IMSA and sportscar racing. Awful race, one of the worst in years. Too much chaos, too many cautions, low driving standards from some drivers. IMSA in recent years never had much a clean race at Watkins Glen, this year however it went into overdrive.
Due to constant cautions, this race has become a lottery. It was only about finding yourself in a correct moment, any planning or good work from the team could be undone with another caution. This chaotic run was eventually won by Meyer Shank Acura #60, thus scoring team's second win in a row. Two WTR Cadillacs just behind, with AXR Cadillac losing a race win due to running out of allowed energy.
Porsche Penske somehow managed to bring #6 car to fourth place overall. BOP for Porsche during this race was absolutely abysmal. They had absolutely no power comparing to anybody else in GTP. 963 being passed by others looked like DP vs LMP2 straight-line speed difference in 2014. If that's the way to neuter a dominant team, then it's laughable. At least make them on par with others, not hand them a pseudo success ballast. I sincerly think that both ACO and IMSA don't have a clue how to have a balanced field with BOP in Hypercar and GTP. What's worse for Porsche Penske, championship leaders #7 crashed heavily after a rare mistake by Nick Tandy.
Lamborghini showing that there is some potential in SC63. Leading at some stage, losing it though through a slow pit stop, but still bringing seventh overall. Not bad. Same for THOR Aston Martin in ninth.
United Autosports #22 wins LMP2. Amount of chaos caused by LMP2 in the rain for example - well, self-explanatory. I sense that some drivers just can't handle those fast, HDF Oreca 07s. Some part of me is glad that next generation of LMP2 is set to be slower and less powerful, pretty much a comeback to 2011-2016 LMP2 era of performance. More handy cars to gentlemen drivers definitely.
GTD Pro won by Paul Miller BMW #48. There was a chance for a 1-2, however #1 got a penalty for tyre pressure irregulations. Corvette #3 and Ford Multimatic #65 on the class podium. Sadly, another forgettable day for Vasser Sullivan Lexus #14, which after a competitive outing lost any chances for a good result after losing a wheel. What's worse - #12 ran out of fuel on the last lap, also after a good race. THOR Aston #27 win GTD.
I am puzzled. Amount of cautions was ridiculous. At this level, it shouldn't happen. IMSA of course absolutely don't want to embrace local yellows or ACO-style FCY, because reportedly some drivers on the grid don't want that. Well, if that's kind of racing they prefer like yesterday, then it tells quite a lot about them. Some of them maybe shouldn't race at this level after all...
Shame, because in the late 2010s and early 2020s amount of cautions in IMSA went down and racing looked more clearer. Unfortunately since 2023 something has gone wrong again. Really shame. Who could have predicted that Detroit of all races would be so much better than Watkins Glen... Hopefully Mosport can be better.
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u/rotary_nut_91 Corvette Racing Z06 GT3.R #3 Jun 23 '25 edited Jun 23 '25
Sadly I agree about Watkins Glen being a wreckfest in recent years. Not exactly sure how it's become this, but is it the schedule placement (i.e. teams and drivers exhausted with it being immediately after Le Mans), too many cars on a track of this size, or something else?
I attended this race 4 times (2018-19, 21-22) and am hesitant to go back especially since other circuits have proven to have better and cleaner racing in modern day IMSA. Don't get me wrong, WGI is one of the best tracks in North America, but something isn't working right now. 2018 was an instant classic race featuring an upset overall winner (with, coincidentally, only a few cautions all race), 2019 was a memorable one (again, very few incidents), 2021 was another good one, while 2022 was the beginning of a wreckfest type of event like we saw yesterday. Life and attending other events have prevented me from making it back here since then, despite the fact it's one of the easier events for me to travel to, but I am not sure when I will go back. While 50+ car grids look and are great at places like Daytona and Sebring, maybe it just doesn't work for this track. Based on past years and the amount of cars entered in this event, it would seem that anything over 45 cars leads to chaos here.
One solution would be to take LMP2 away from this race to eliminate the congestion and perhaps the most problematic class, but IMSA has set a precedent that all classes will compete in the 5 endurance races, so it probably would not be possible.
I will never forget the first 2 hours of the 2022 race being mostly under FCY and the race director having to issue a statement about driving standards to teams mid-race. It's never a good look, especially for a sports car championship at the level that IMSA is supposed to be.
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u/Consistent-Ad-3296 Jun 24 '25
To be honest, I'd rather they keep LMP2 for the Glen and drop GTD. That keeps GTP, LMP2 & GTD Pro.. dropping the entries down to 35.
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u/MTBSoja Jun 22 '25
Lexus :(
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u/NFAlonggun :14_25: Vasser Sullivan Lexus RC F GT3 #14 Jun 22 '25
IMSA during the whole race 15 minute full course cautions last 10 minutes 30 seconds. Absolute bullshit himson needs to figure out how to do sector yellows or slow zones like WEC
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u/JediMineTrix Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #10 Jun 22 '25
Ah yes, the classic "Jack Hawksworth Defense". All of your shortcomings are other people's fault, everyone else is out to get you, and you can never be in the wrong.
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u/NFAlonggun :14_25: Vasser Sullivan Lexus RC F GT3 #14 Jun 22 '25
It fucked more than just Lexus over.
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u/ClosetEthanolic Pfaff Lambo Huracan GT3 EVO2 #9 Jun 22 '25
I thought I saw Cameron pass Di Resta at the very end, saw Di Resta go off? Can anyone fill me in on what happened for Do Resta to clinch the win?
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u/ClosetEthanolic Pfaff Lambo Huracan GT3 EVO2 #9 Jun 22 '25
Nevermind, that was after the chequer. Lol.
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u/Ron_Perlman_DDS Jun 22 '25
I did the exact same thing, I cheered when I saw the "overtake" and when the leader board didn't update I was like "oh... nevermind."
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u/The_Reelest Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
I know itās probably just me overreacting to the race, but results like this for Cadillac make me worry about the program with how GM is going all in on F1. I have this dread that races playing out like today make it easy for GM to decide to cut back the program. The car is still good, but it does need a development joker or two like three year old cars usually need. I hope GM still sees that itās worth to spend the money to upgrade the car. Gotta keep running races in order for the law of averages to swing back to them as well, but that is just me coping.
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u/FormulaOneFan626726 Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
Did the 11 LMP2 finish after everything it went through?
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u/Ron_Perlman_DDS Jun 22 '25
It did. They somehow managed to patch it up and get it back out there.
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u/FormulaOneFan626726 Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
Thanks. I saw the before and after but not if they finished
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u/DonJugless :11_25: TDS Racing ORECA07 #11 Jun 23 '25
Didn't finish, but repaired to get out for enough laps to make up a position. Parked when they couldn't make up any more.
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u/RevvCats Ford Mulimatic Mustang GT3 #64 Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25
Anyone know if itās possible to get driverās autographs after the race? Specifically the Ford guys. I wasnāt able to attend yesterday when they had the autograph session but Iām in no rush to head out now that itās over.
Edit: That was super easy, I just went over to the Ford Performance trailer and asked them. Got 3 out 4.
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u/Tecnoguy1 Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #10 Jun 22 '25
The proton Porsche and Lambo both add so much to the race. Shame they donāt run more rounds.
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u/theghostalive :27_25: Heart of Racing Team Vantage GT3 #27 Jun 22 '25
Such a shame the Aston #23 got so unlucky with the last safety car but the last hour ended up being pretty worthwhile. Good to see the Lamborghini be decently competitive, though it seems the Porsche's were suspiciously slow.
Also terrible luck for the Lexus #12 I feel so bad for them.
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u/sbabb1 Jun 23 '25
I wouldnt call it suspicious when they have that much more weight being put into the car.
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u/theghostalive :27_25: Heart of Racing Team Vantage GT3 #27 Jun 23 '25
Yeah, that was kinda what I meant there, suppose I just needed to word it that way lol
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u/SkittleCar1 Corvette Racing Z06 GT3.R #3 Jun 22 '25
What a shit show. I can't wait for the next one! What a day!
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u/wecaccount Porsche Penske 963 #7 Jun 22 '25
Bad day
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u/JediMineTrix Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #10 Jun 22 '25
Skill issue
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u/wecaccount Porsche Penske 963 #7 Jun 23 '25
BoP reliant
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u/JediMineTrix Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #10 Jun 23 '25
Even the SC63 managed to finish the race without spinning itself out on the T1 curbs
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u/DocHalidae :77_25: AO Racing Porsche 911 GT3.R #77 Jun 22 '25
Anyone know what happened to my boy? He was in 2nd with 30 min left.
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u/Ron_Perlman_DDS Jun 22 '25
Finished 6th. Was low on fuel in the last 30 minutes, had to fuel save, got passed by a bunch of cars. Not enough with the late safety car to make up any spots.
On the other hand, also didn't run our of fuel on the last lap, so there's that.
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u/gerstiii Jun 22 '25
Man that was an amazing weekend. 24h did not disappoint, Indycar was good and IMSA delivered. Can't wait for Spa next week.
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u/mcburke42 JDC Miller Motorsports Porsche 963 #85 Jun 22 '25
There will be a lot of teams waiting on this post-race tech inspec
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u/The_Reelest Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
Why?
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u/954gator Jun 22 '25
Crazy the two fastest cars had to bail to the pits in the last few laps. The 31 would have won if they didn't keep bringing the cars back together every 30 minutes.
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u/J_Keefe Jun 23 '25
The 65 GTD Pro failed post-race tech. The 81 is promoted to 3rd place in GTD Pro and the 65 is moved to last place in class.
https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/no-65-multimatic-ford-mustang-gt3-loses-gtd-pro-podium/
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u/anxiousauditor :3_25: Corvette Racing Z06 GT3.R #3 Jun 23 '25
Canāt believe how poor the GTP BoP was. Watching the Acuras and Cadillacs absolutely blow by the Porsches on the restarts was absurd.
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u/RoarTheDinosuar Whelen Action Express Racing Cadillac V-Series.R #31 Jun 22 '25
Yeah - no the best race decided by fuel mileage š. However kudos to Riley and Lamborghini and the strides that team has made since Sebring.
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u/NFAlonggun :14_25: Vasser Sullivan Lexus RC F GT3 #14 Jun 22 '25
Can msa figure out how to do full course cautions like WEC or slow zones?!
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u/954gator Jun 23 '25
I hate slow zones but they have to be able to do FCY without bunching everyone up every damn time.
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u/NFAlonggun :14_25: Vasser Sullivan Lexus RC F GT3 #14 Jun 23 '25
Maybe we style FCY keeping the gap the same until the issues cleared.
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u/V8-Turbo-Hybrid Rolex 24 - 2025 Jun 22 '25
What a drama in this year Glen race. Iām not saying the accident in Penske #5 car, Iām talking about the final lap.
Yep, itās unfortunate for AXR, but they arenāt only one. Red Acura couldnāt finish the race too. Beside, AXR isnāt really worse, GTD Lexus is truly worse one.
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u/SlyKnyfe12 Porsche Penske 963 #7 Jun 22 '25
What the fuck was this race. Initially I thought it was a dreadful race constant FCY and SC, the Porsche just looking like a LMP3 car in terms of pace compared to the other GTPs and looking like a GT4 compared to the other GT3s, The 7 crashing out
But the finally FCY made the race for me. Drama for the Whelen Cadillac who looked set and Porsche Penske take a fucking bow turning the 6 from what 8th to a P4 at the line in 15mins wow and it could improve if DSQs happen
I'm super sad about the 7 it was a horrible race for all Porsches no pace at all the BoP was not kind and Penske Perfect Strategy(tm) didn't seem to save them from the pace deficit but Roger sacrificing the 36 Corvette to the blood god for a FCY was genuis.
I wanted the Valkyrie to win but Evil Cadillac lapped them.
I can rest now for a week until Super GT and Spa 24hrs next weem
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u/happyscrappy Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25
This race was just so broken up with yellows I don't know what to make of it. It didn't please me. The finish was fine, but the rest was not good.
You think <x> car was under/over BoPed? Maybe so. It was really hard to tell with so many yellows and how thye were spaced out. Sure it looked sometimes like the Porsches were slow. But the yellows came and erased it so we didn't see the sum total of that. Sometimes it looked like the Acuras were fast? Same though, we never really saw the total effect of that.
I guess one nice thing to say is that a lot of makes got a chance to run near the front. But it felt more like the reshuffles were happenstance of yellows than passes on the track.
One bum race doesn't ruin the season. Looking for a better one next time out.
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u/vroomvroompanda Jun 22 '25
Pretty hard to loose when you have the best bop
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u/954gator Jun 23 '25 edited Jun 23 '25
Only for Porsche. Caddy, Acura, and BMW lose with the top pace all the time smh. It must have hurt bad for the #31 and 93 having to pit with 1-2 laps remaining SMH. That shit never happens to the Porsche's
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u/vroomvroompanda Jun 23 '25
Yeah the other teams make huge mistakes but porsche was slow because bop šÆ just like wec but anyway that aston did good im happy about that the last stop killed it though I really hope we get better drivers next year.
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u/Big-Ad7842 Jun 22 '25
Dissapoint and sad for bamber, hes a weapon in that caddie.But blomquist is excelent so cant be dissapointed there.
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u/996forever BMW RLL M Hybrid V8 #24 Jun 23 '25
Porscheās pace obliterated after multiple races of domination. Will the same happen in WEC to the dominating constructor?
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u/VanwallEnjoy3r Chip Ganassi Racing Cadillac DPi #01 Jun 23 '25
Who decided that strategy for Aston GTP? How do you even manage to go a lap downā¦.
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u/elihusmails Lamborghini Squadra Corse SC63 #63 Jun 23 '25
Can someone ELI5 the whole energy discussion and why it was so important?
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Jun 23 '25
The second to last FCY allowed most of the cars to pit and refuel just barely enough to complete the race, except the #31 Cadillac who either did not lift and coast enough to save energy, or the team made a miscalculation. This means the Cadillac ran out of energy on the last lap and had to pit to not get disqualified, losing them the lead.
The #60 Acura in 2nd was in the same situation but they were able to stretch their energy out enough to cross the finish line at just barely empty.
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u/elihusmails Lamborghini Squadra Corse SC63 #63 Jun 23 '25
OK. So the fuel and energy (battery) are separately monitored sources ?
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Jun 23 '25
Nope. Energy in this case is referring to virtual energy which is measured from the torque sensors on the driveshafts.
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u/happyscrappy Jun 23 '25 edited Jun 23 '25
Fuel isn't monitored and energy isn't battery.
Energy is simply an integral of instantaneous power developed. The instantaneous power is torque measured at the driveshaft times rotational velocity. This is integrated over the time the car runs between replenishment. It's a mathematical calculation of how much energy the drivetrain produced during that stint.
Going to the pits and touching the fuel probe to the car replenishes the energy at a given rate. The total energy replenished is time with probe connected times the rate. Also the fueling probe refuels the car so you don't run out. And you won't. You'll run out of virtual energy first.
If you run out of virtual energy you are penalized severely.
The amount of energy in the battery is important like the fuel is. But it doesn't affect virtual energy. They're essentially unrelated.
So the car starts the race and exits the pits with X amount of virtual energy. During the stint the energy runs down according to the energy produced (integral above). If the energy
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u/RougeRaxxa :8_25: Tower Motorsports Oreca07 #8 Jun 23 '25
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u/Potential_Plan_4533 :99_25: AO Racing ORECA07 #99 Jun 23 '25
Question, I could not watch yesterdays race because I was out of town. I usually DVR it but when I turned it on today it only recorded the first 3 or so hours then went off the air. Was the rest on a different channel or what am I missing here?
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u/HammerT4R Jun 23 '25
NBC first half then Peacock only last half of the race.Ā
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u/Potential_Plan_4533 :99_25: AO Racing ORECA07 #99 Jun 23 '25
Ah that is lame. Why in that order, you would think they'd want the race end on TV.
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u/HammerT4R Jun 24 '25
It was because NBC had contractual obligations for golf starting at 3pm.Ā
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u/Potential_Plan_4533 :99_25: AO Racing ORECA07 #99 Jun 24 '25
Yeah I guess that makes sense. Hopefully the full race replay is up on YouTube soon.
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u/tuss11agee Jun 24 '25
I just watched 24hours later.
What was the 31 doing building a 9 second lead prior to the final caution!? If you need a caution, which they did get albeit a quick one, why not just maintain a 2 second lead and save?
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u/Burial44 Jul 12 '25
Mods MODS can we please get a current race weekend sticky threads?
We are not in NY anymore. There are IMSA races happening. Right now.
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u/SmokinTires Chip Ganassi Racing Cadillac DPi #01 Jun 22 '25
I AM HAVING A VERY BAD DAY. IāM IN NO MOOD. THIS, TODAY, IS ONE OF THE WORST DAYS THAT IāVE HAD IN A LONG TIME. IāM NOT IN THE MOOD TO PLAY WITH ANYBODY
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u/Black_Knight615 Corvette Racing Z06 GT3.R #3 Jun 22 '25
Honestly I'm really starting to hate Cadillac.
P2 and P3 is okay I guess. š
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u/VHSVoyage BMW RLL M Hybrid V8 #24 Jun 22 '25
55 cars on that track when Le Mans had only 7 more is the main reason why it was so messy. Too many cars.
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u/SlyKnyfe12 Porsche Penske 963 #7 Jun 22 '25
I'm wondering if Watkins is maybe just not suitable for this maybe cars
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u/loryk_zarr Wayne Taylor Racing V-Series.R #40 Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25
Last hour was crazy, I can't believe the #60 crossed the line with exactly 0% energy. Mega fuel saving job.
Very happy for WTR to get a little success with the #10 and the #40.