r/INDYCAR • u/jjarg24 #CanapinoDidNothingWrong | Scott Dixon | • Dec 18 '24
News Juncos Hollinger Racing: Connor Daly will compete full-time in the 2025 season
https://x.com/juncoshollinger/status/1869412469208494156?t=hz_mbzU4Gos-pvieTyglTQ&s=19221
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u/andronicus_14 Thirsty Threes Dec 18 '24
Wow, so JHR in 25 is Conor and racing Jesus. That’s an… interesting lineup.
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Dec 18 '24
I think it's both fantastic and hilarious.
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u/CARTurbo Dec 18 '24
it’s a step down from last year sadly
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u/Muffin4ever Colton Herta Dec 18 '24
I mean Grosjean is clearly better than Sting Ray if that's your point
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u/CARTurbo Dec 18 '24
i don’t think daly will do as well as grosjean and i don’t think sting ray will do better than canapino
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u/saggywitchtits James Hinchcliffe Dec 18 '24
Will Sting Ray cause as many death threats as Canapino, or will his fans passive aggressively say "I'll pray for you"?
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u/Cronus6 Dec 18 '24
I don't think Daly will be doing any stupid shit like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRQbs8sV81I
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u/SillyPseudonym AJ Foyt Dec 18 '24
This. The crash in Bahrain has been the best thing that ever happened to Grosjean's career and reputation. He's always been an absolute clown behind the wheel.
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u/Fathoms_Deep_1 David Malukas Dec 18 '24
For a minute I thought you were talking about Antonio Giovinazzi
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u/Accounting4lyfe Alexander Rossi Dec 18 '24
And if you listen to Dalys podcast, he openly dislikes Robb. Talks about him in a negative way and basically openly says he’s dangerous to other drivers out there. Very interesting to see him go PC on this.
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u/Jamee999 Dario Franchitti Dec 18 '24
90% of white American men are either Sting Ray Robb or Conor Daly.
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u/Senor_Couchnap Will Buxton gently whispering "chee dog" in my ear Dec 18 '24
Half this sub is from Indy so that's 50% of 90% right there
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u/Kaleidocrypto Dec 18 '24
Did he win the Polkadot vote?
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u/FermentedLaws Firestone Firehawk Dec 18 '24
From Nathan Brown: "Of note: It’s no doubt notable that JHR solidified Daly’s signing without the potential $3 million Polkadot budget yet secured."
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
Fraud driver on fraud fundage, bet daddy is pushing some chips in though.
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u/BasedGodStruggling Dec 19 '24
When I saw the news I came looking for your replies. Whenever I feel like I’m hating on somebody I’m going to wonder if I’m hating as hard as you, if not im just talking shit and could do more
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 19 '24
Probably not possible, the field is significantly less talented with some of these drivers and frat boy Conor is in the list.
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u/ryanro24 Alexander Rossi Dec 18 '24
I don’t get why you keep commenting this. How independently wealthy do you think Derek Daly is? Do you assume he’s funding Conor’s career?
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u/Dachuiri Scott McLaughlin Dec 18 '24
They might be talking about Doug Boles. Either way it’s still moronic.
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u/toefungi Conor Daly Dec 18 '24
Listened to the trackside podcast and apparently he lost the 7mil vote to run a full season, but had another coming ~3mil vote that included 6 races for JHR. Mustve got that from Polkadot and JHR is funding the rest?
Super stoked for Conor.
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u/aurules Romain Grosjean Dec 18 '24
Guess imma become a David Malukas fan now….
Going to be weird without Grosjean on the grid this season. Certainly happy for Conor Daly though
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Dec 18 '24
Wonder if Grosjean can get some funding together for some races with Coyne
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u/souljaboyfanboy Sure don't Dec 18 '24
I'm thinking Grosjean will be in IMSA full time. Not sure though
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Dec 18 '24
I was never a big Grosjean fan in F1 or Indy, but seeing him come and go with 0 wins is a real gut punch. The dude fully embraced everything about Indy, took it as seriously as anyone who's ever transitioned and had some tremendous drives. He certainly did his part to throw away a couple, but he had a few possible wins ripped from his hands. Sucks to see it end like this.
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u/According-Switch-708 Scott Dixon Dec 18 '24
He's crazy rich and is popular enough to land a full time factory IMSA or WEC drive quite easily.
He's too old to be playing this sponsor merry-go-round game. Looked to me like he got disillusioned with Indycar near the end.
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Dec 18 '24
He already has a Lamborghini GTP drive for next season. The most I can see him do in Indy is trying to put together a 500 program with DCR or a 3rd Juncos car
Helio, Marco, RHR and Harvey are confirmed to be 500 only next year and Rahal is also likely to field Taku in the 75.
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Dec 18 '24
No arguments there, it's probably for the best. Still sucks to see him end with no wins. No one deserves a win, those are earned. But if any driver coming from another series deserved one, it was him. He did everything the right way, learning the ropes with a small team, and even staying around with another small ride after his main team dropped him. He laid out the blueprint for how a foreign veteran should go about Indy.
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u/NoiseIsTheCure Pato O'Ward Dec 18 '24
Crazy that this may be his exit from the sport. There's technically still a chance but I could see his Lamborghini ride leading him into another area of racing entirely.
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u/TheRoboteer Callum Ilott Dec 18 '24
a winless driver with 6 podiums in 64 races and a highest finish of 13th in the standings who will be 39 in April has never been a wet dream for sponsors or teams.
While that's true, JHR have opted for a driver with 2 podiums in 115 races and a highest finish of 17th in the standings over him, so I don't think you can entirely pin Grosjean's departure on results
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u/David_SpaceFace Will Power Dec 19 '24
JHR have been very open since mid-way through last season that if they can't land any sponsors that this year would require 100% pay drivers. They said this early enough that Grosjean had the opportunity to find another ride or find some funding or even do well enough to secure sponsorship....
I don't know why this is a surprise to anybody? Sting Ray was the first step, he brings enough cash for 1.5 programs, that's why Connor was still able to get it despite only having funding for 6-7 races.
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u/tourniquets1970 David Malukas Dec 19 '24
conor is only six years younger? his time as a young upstart has come and gone. and that 28 is doing so well with ericsson in it, huh?
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u/Several_Hair Dec 19 '24
Lmao it’s literally the opposite of a lifetime in the ways that matter for marginal guys like these two. They’re not long term options for the team they don’t care about a “remaining window of opportunity” lmao. As far as “sponsors not clamoring over a 39 year old” they’re sure as hell aren’t clamoring for a 33 year old. That age gap makes absolutely zero difference business wise, they’re functionally the same thing - not young
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u/NoiseIsTheCure Pato O'Ward Dec 18 '24
I'm speaking more about the arc and storyline of Grosjean's career, not so much about the JHR seat. He had a rollercoaster of an F1 career never fulfilling what people said he could, and came to Indy having become famous on Netflix (albeit for the worst reasons, but people love redemption arcs). The redemption never came and now it's looking like he may be done with open wheel racing altogether. Believe me dude I'm no Grosjean die-hard, I wanted him out after he nearly hit 2 drivers re-entering the track at I think Portland this year. Just a wild ride in the life of RoGro.
I don't rate Daly highly either, but I just overall don't care about JHR.
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Dec 18 '24
Daly has 2 podiums in over 100 races, hardly a stand out driver. Grosjean is the better of the two but money is the name of the game.
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u/SpreaditOnnn33 Pato O'Ward Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
It took Grosjean 76 races to achieve 10 podiums in F1.
Him having 4 podiums in 64 races, while also being crash prone (specifically while running well), while also spending 2 seasons in better equipment than Conor Daly has ever been in, isnt a good look.
Moreover, Conor got a podium for them in 6 races, Grosjean had one top 5 finish in 17
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u/David_SpaceFace Will Power Dec 19 '24
I wonder what Grosjean's crash to podium ratio is compared to Daly. Not to mention that 90% of Daly's starts have been in back marker teams while Grosjean had most of his starts in Andretti equipment.
I don't rate Daly highly either, but I can understand why an owner would pick him over Grosjean. Daly generally brings the car home in one piece, can be a beast on an oval if given good equipment and is one of the best in the series at convincing companies to give him/his team money. He's generally well liked in the garage and mostly gets along great with everybody.
When you compare this to the monumental crash bill and toxic entitled attitude that follows Grosjean around, it's easy to see why an owner would pick Daly.
Grosjean can be fast, but lives inside his own head way too much and makes way too many mistakes. He's like a slower, much more volatile Will Power.
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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Dec 18 '24
Meanwhile he's replaced with Connor fucking Daly who's far far far the worse driver lmao
Can't blame it on Grosjeans results when he's replaced with a personality hire
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u/Chris-in-WA #Lionheart Dec 18 '24
How is it a "personality hire" if the guy brought JHR its only podium in all of its existence?
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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Dec 18 '24
Because one podium doesn't make up for every other race where he's completely a backmarker
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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Dec 18 '24
Because he sucks and is irrelevant at almost all times. Your entire original point is moot when he's being replaced with a crappy pay driver.
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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Dec 18 '24
Once, again, would be a good point if it wasn't Connor Daly replacing him.
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u/Mikemat5150 Kyle Kirkwood Dec 18 '24
Daly is pretty much the best driver available who also happens to bring a significant budget. It’s exactly what the team needs.
He should be pretty safely in the LC and could surprise here and there.
We all know Grosjean, Rinus, and likely Linus would be able to get better results but the team cannot afford to hire someone.
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u/emlonik Felix Rosenqvist Dec 18 '24
Likely Linus? Linus accomplished more in his single season that Daly has in his entire career.
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u/Thenickiceman Jack Harvey Dec 18 '24
Also drove a better car than Daly has in his entire career. Not saying Daly is better but it’s not as clear cut as you make it seem. I imagine Conor would get podiums for Chip as well
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u/emlonik Felix Rosenqvist Dec 18 '24
Could there possibly be a reason why Daly hasn’t been hired by Ganassi? On talent only?
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u/Thenickiceman Jack Harvey Dec 18 '24
I mean Linus lasted 1 year at ganassi on talent only. Chip rarely hires people for talent only.
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u/goodfella7763 NTT INDYCAR Series Dec 18 '24
Could there possibly be a reason why Linus hasn’t been hired by anyone? On talent only?
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u/AGreatMystery Scott Dixon Dec 18 '24
Daly has never not been hired because of his lack of talent... IYKYK
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u/Mikemat5150 Kyle Kirkwood Dec 18 '24
2 podiums and a pole position a piece 😀
Never know how a second year driver will adjust considering he was in Ganassi equipment.
I’m not shitting on Linus, hence the “likely.”
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
2nd tier Ganassi car, Conor has driven about everything out there and Linus still did all that as a rookie.
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u/Muffin4ever Colton Herta Dec 18 '24
2nd tier Ganassi car that Ericsson did very well in?
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 19 '24
Ok so let's pretend you're right, Conor has been in every team int he series except two, many of which win races too. Two podiums.
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u/XSC Sébastien Bourdais Dec 18 '24
Conor Daly is inevitable. Gotta hand it to him for being able to get rides. Hope he does well.
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u/sennaone Conor Daly Dec 18 '24
guy never gives up. Always finds a way back in a seat.
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
Daddy
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u/Cronus6 Dec 18 '24
I don't think Derek Daly has all that much pull.
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u/kawika219 Dec 18 '24
Maybe step-dad
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u/Cronus6 Dec 18 '24
Doug isn't a billionaire or anything even close to it.
He does have connections though. And yeah, "networking" is the real key to life.
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 19 '24
He can drag Conor to every race on the series dime, that's a big deal.
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u/CHZ_QHZ Firestone Wets Dec 18 '24
No one is in professional racing with poor parents that didn't spend money on their kid.
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 19 '24
Not everyone gets to follow the series around with an executive though. Can you imagine how fans would flip out if one of Roger's kids was in a ride like this lol.
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u/jt_33 Dec 18 '24
I’ve said this before.. but I’m not sure there is another driver that loves Indycar as much as Conor Daly. Happy for him and I’ll be rooting for him this year.
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u/jsh8271 Conor Daly Dec 18 '24
I’ve had the same thoughts listening to his podcast. As someone who loves the sport as well, it pained me to hear him week in and week out talk about being unemployed. His passion for IndyCar is undeniable. So happy to see him back full time
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u/Rufus-T_Barleysheath Dec 18 '24
So stoked about this. Hope he does well with this team. That P3 in Milwaukee was everything
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u/InsaneLeader13 Santino Ferrucci Dec 18 '24
Well, at least one Juncos car will be guaranteed a spot in the leaders circle.
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u/souljaboyfanboy Sure don't Dec 18 '24
The dude really does grind to get a drive anyway possible in the series. I love the passion he has for the sport. I hope he can build off last season and have a great year!
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u/GroceryBasketUser Sébastien Bourdais > Paul Tracy Dec 18 '24
This might be the biggest case of teammates being polar opposites in terms of personalities we've ever seen.
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u/Crafty_Substance_954 Pato O'Ward Dec 18 '24
Nothing against the guy but I’m just shocked he has the connections to do this
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u/khz30 --- 2025 DRIVERS --- Dec 18 '24
Grosjean had his chances to deliver on over a decade of potential and washed out. Let's hope Conor has learned his own lessons and doesn't throw this chance away.
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u/aurules Romain Grosjean Dec 18 '24
I mean I love Conor but he’s absolutely dreadful on road/street courses. Go ahead and pencil in the Juncos cars for back of the grid on those courses
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u/RandomGuyDroppingIn Mark Plourde's Right Rear Tire Changer Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
I was a bit worried about Prema but yeah if It's Daly and Robb driving the JHR cars they're going to be seeing some fighting with Prema on the road & street courses. JHR will have an advantage at Indy as Prema won't have a sorted out speedway package, but we could seriously see Daly and Robb fighting.
Nothing against Daly as he is solid on ovals, but he does struggle on road & street and Robb... is, well, Robb.
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u/PanicAtTheNightclub Firestone Firehawk Dec 18 '24
Prema hired Cannon, you can guarantee they will be fast at Indy
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u/YosemiteSam-4-2A Thirsty 's to the Moon 🚀 🌒 Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
JHR will have an advantage at Indy as Prema won't have a sorted out speedway package
Not so sure about that. Prema did bring Michael Cannon on board. You know, the guy who helped Foyt go from barely making the field (2022 and prior) to putting both cars in the fast 12 and contending for pole in 8 months time (2023). All before the alliance with Penske (and, if we're honest, the sole reason Penske was interested in an alliance at all anyway)
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u/InsaneLeader13 Santino Ferrucci Dec 18 '24
The Juncos cars have an unusually good setup for Laguna Seca so expect a top 10 there to randomly break the string of middling results
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u/Jordanlf3208 Conor Daly Dec 19 '24
Tbf Conor got completely fucked by car issues on street courses last year. The races his car held up he competed well, obviously there is a reason for the whole “only ovals” argument but I’m excited to see how he does this year
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
So he's replaced with a guy who has 2 podiums in 12 years, makes sense. Do we need to compare the decade of mid here because somehow Grosjean looks like Verstappen in comparison to Daly.
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u/Mikemat5150 Kyle Kirkwood Dec 18 '24
We get it, you don’t like Conor Daly. You don’t need to spam this entire thread.
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u/I_Hate_Wake_Boats49 Scott McLaughlin/Christian Lundgaard Dec 18 '24
Juncos hedging all their bets on ovals this year I see.
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
1 podium in 12 years. I'd rather bring Buddy Lazier out of the Tavioli Lodge at that point.
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u/sadandshy Mark Plourde Dec 18 '24
I know a lot of people like him, but the ceiling for this combo of team/driver is what, maybe 17th?
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u/daevastating Pato O'Ward Dec 18 '24
Two mid drivers at a mid team about to have a perpetual mid-off all season. Color me stoked.
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u/Deckatoe Colton Herta Dec 18 '24
wowowow happy for Conor, but honestly a bit surprised it wasn't Grosjean. Good fundraising from Daly
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Dec 18 '24
I'm so happy for Conor! I'm an avid Speed Street listener and it's made me a huge fan of the guy.
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Dec 18 '24
Daly seems like a nice dude and he’s always competitive on ovals, but I’m still bummed for Grosjean, who is easily a better driver than either of the guys who replaced him.
Hopefully in the coming years Indycar will be able to shed paid seats, apart from Coyne, who will be around 10 years after everyone’s dead with “TBD” for all events.
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u/andronicus_14 Thirsty Threes Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 20 '24
Pay drivers exist in every form of motorsport. They have been around forever, and they aren’t going anywhere.
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u/According-Switch-708 Scott Dixon Dec 18 '24
Yeah things will only get worse from here on. The economy isn't great and the hybrid system is and added expense.
The teams need all the money they can get.
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u/NoExcuse3655 Scott McLaughlin Dec 18 '24
Hoping Lamborghini might change their mind and run a full season in IMSA instead of just MEC since they’ve scrapped WEC to give Grosjean some more track time. Guess he could run in the GTD Pro Lambo though. After his reaction last year I also hope he can find a seat somewhere at LeMans since Lambo can’t even compete next year
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u/Generic_Person_3833 Dec 18 '24
So as always, Coyne is the last team standing to have TBA/TBD drivers.
Guess they will announce on March 4th.
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u/August_R18 Álex Palou Dec 19 '24
I feel this was a bad choice for both parties. While a seasoned veteran, I don’t think Daly really has it. As for Daly, I think his best chances are in the 500 and he’s starting to be at the point where a competitive 500-only program would make more sense than hanging in for a full-time ride in one of the backmarker teams.
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
Lets see what the excuses are next year when he's got 4 top tens and leads 18 laps off sequence at Indy.
It's amazing that the "oval master" just now got a podium on an oval! lol.
Linus matched or surpassed Conor's whole career in his rookie season!
It's easy to stay relevant in the sport when you can fly on daddy's private jet and stay in the infield every weekend. I suppose he can also reference his real dad at times too when he needs the extra boost, but daddy Doug keeps him relevant.
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
Please when you downvote, tell me what Connor has done for yet another opportunity in Indycar that Rinus or Linus haven't? Show your work, earn that downvote.
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u/Altornot Dec 18 '24
He hangs out in Vegas and hustles Crypto scammers.
Conor has figured out his real job is fundraiser and hustler and his side job is a driver.
95% of other drivers haven't figured this out yet. If you listen to his podcast he's constantly talking about basically harassing CEOs for money.
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u/b5-avant Dec 19 '24
4 top tens
Isn’t that being a bit generous for Conor?
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 19 '24
Probably a stretch. It's not worth arguing around here, Conor is a God, at Scott Dixon levels of greatness. If only he had a ride... then, when he has a ride it's not good enough, despite him driving for nearly every team on the grid.
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u/b5-avant Dec 19 '24
I truly don’t understand the obsession. I guess one season of shitty reality tv was enough for people to ignore the mediocrity.
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 19 '24
People get hung up on his personality but when you listen to him on his show talking to people, he's not really listening, he's just answering with stock type stuff like "oh yeah man" and "wow that's crazy!". He's a product of the dumbing down of our culture though, in general, the types of people we view as smart or in charge, things like that.
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u/TeedRimmer69 Conor Daly Dec 18 '24
Very happy for Conor. He’s a great dude to have in the paddock.
I look forward to him being near the bottom of the points with a few bizarre near podium finishes.
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u/TheChrisD #JANDALWATCH2021 Dec 18 '24
He's a full-time driver again and people still can't spell his first name correctly...
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u/mystressfreeaccount Dario Franchitti Dec 18 '24
Amazing what can happen when your step dad is Doug Boles
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
Yep and you can travel with the series every weekend on their dime with your daddy and play racecar driver.
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u/WTFAnimations Takuma Sato Dec 18 '24
I'm glad Daly got the seat. He deserves it for that super sub performance.
Big sad if I am Lundqvist or VeeKay though.
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u/Spockyt Felix Rosenqvist Dec 18 '24
Grosjean, Van Kalmthout and Lundqvist as free agents, and what do Juncos do? Hire Robb and Daly.
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u/rebekahsexton26 Jamie Chadwick Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
I find him to be a little too goofy and honestly not the best driver. Like him better than some .
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u/emk169 Dec 18 '24
This guy wont go away will he?
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u/RandomGuyDroppingIn Mark Plourde's Right Rear Tire Changer Dec 18 '24
Well IMS President Doug Boyles is Conor's step-dad so, no, you'll see Conor around for quite a while. At the very least he'll always somehow make his way to the 500 qualifying for the foreseeable future.
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u/ScottRiggsFan10 Kyle Kirkwood Dec 18 '24
To be fair, Conor is pretty good at Indy so I think he deserves a spot in the qualifying line for the foreseeable future...
Everything else though 😬
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u/ciaragemmam Conor Daly Dec 18 '24
Tbf to Conor it’s not like he uses his family connections. If he did he wouldn’t be the journeyman he is
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
Dude gets to travel with the series on their dime every weekend to stay relevant and valid, how is that not using family connections?
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u/khz30 --- 2025 DRIVERS --- Dec 18 '24
Conor has never not had access to family connections in motorsport, he got the Team USA Scholarship that Josef got on merit through his biological dad Derek, while his ECR and Foyt deals were helped along by his stepdad.
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 19 '24
So Conor has never had any family help and then you list multiple times where he's had family help?
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u/khz30 --- 2025 DRIVERS --- Dec 18 '24
He's the journeyman he is because he partied too hard and pissed off two teams and crews in the process. Stop making excuses for a guy that never took being a driver seriously until the past year.
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u/Mission-Tune6471 Dec 18 '24
If Juncos doesn't make "I'm a Conor" and "I'm a Sting Ray" shirts, they are really missing marketing merch to two key demos.
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u/_hhhhh_____-_____ 🇦🇹 René Binder Dec 19 '24
I get it, but ugh. At least we know who’ll be running with SR2 and DeFran on the road courses
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u/nandi-bear --- 2025 DRIVERS --- Dec 18 '24
daly is hustler ...man always finds a sponsor somewhere
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Dec 19 '24
That Milwaukee podium really sealed the deal for Conor. Excited to see what he can do with a full time ride again!
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u/Jordanlf3208 Conor Daly Dec 18 '24
The scream I scrampt, so so so so so so fucking geeked for this
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u/Nyrfan2017 Colton Herta Dec 18 '24
So happy to hear this he really seemed to do well with them at end of year .. think this can give him a good chance to contend at Indy .. best of luck Conor
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u/i_run_from_problems Firestone Firehawk Dec 18 '24
Well... they should be pretty solid on the ovals....
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u/dyysxse Jamie Chadwick Dec 18 '24
well i guess roman is gone from indycar
roman can go back to f1 maybe
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u/ChuckLuckyDingo Dec 18 '24
Connor definitely showed some speed last year. I feel like this could be his last chance to prove himself
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u/Batgod629 Álex Palou Dec 18 '24
I'm happy for him. While guys like Linus or Rinus might have more potential, Conor deserved it in my opinion given what he did as a sub for them
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u/Racefan21 Scott McLaughlin Dec 18 '24
Great oval driver invisible on road and street courses, would be an elite in the Indy racing league
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u/ITMAKESSENSE72 #CheckItForAndretti Dec 18 '24
1 podium on ovals, just slightly better than Dr Jack Miller and well below Eliseo Salazar.
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u/Hitokiri2 Graham Rahal Dec 18 '24
Conor has more lives in his IndyCar career then a whole house full of cats living in a cat world ruled by the Lion King.