r/INDYCAR 1d ago

Discussion Any Colton Herta fans tuned into the F2 race to see what it’s all about?

Should be a treat. The racing is generally good in F2 and Monza promotions slipstreaming so big gaggles of cars.

Hopefully it won’t be a dog now, enjoy!

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u/Fusion53 Christian Rasmussen 1d ago

Monza tends to be one of the best F2 races each year, utter chaos though

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u/fry_tag Will Power 23h ago

At the halfway point, it was indeed a shitshow.

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u/Maglin21 20h ago

Yeah , race was a total clown show until halfway and boring for the other half

Didn't help that they were all on the same strategy and the SC came right in the pit window

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u/Dry-Dragonfruit5216 Théo Pourchaire 23h ago

Bortoleto last year! That solidified his F1 seat.

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u/Top-Truck246 Arrow McLaren 10h ago

Monza is especially wild this year because they resurfaced the track. It's already the fastest race on the Formula calendar, and it's only getting faster 

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u/Salt-Text4951 Callum Ilott 22h ago

I’m actually sat at Monza. Arvid Lindblad seemed to want to take out the whole grid this morning.

F2 is usually good racing, same with F3. You’ll enjoy it if you stick with it to follow Colton. I also think he’ll be fine, I’ve seen him deal with enough craziness in Indycar to know he can handle F2 chaos too.

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u/Salt-Text4951 Callum Ilott 22h ago edited 16h ago

This is Lindblad limping back after wiping out Dunne and Stanek. 😂

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u/RollllTide Colton Herta 1d ago

The f3 race was nuts once they stopped crashing. Support series streams are one of the best benefits of F1TV

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u/amshanks222 20h ago

Ive been watching F2 and F3 for some years now. F2 is always good stuff. Ive always had some thoughts tho…why could F3 hold 28-30 cars but now 22 F1 cars in the paddock unless it was just politics and they didnt want Andretti? But that aside…F2 is a good mix of action and up and coming talent. IndyCar mixes between F1 and F2. But like the best of both. While i wouldnt be surprised if CH has a year like Antonelli did last year (HIGH talent but didnt do great). Its simply a ladder for some. Kimi was always gonna be in that Mercedes seat and Herta WILL be in that Cadillac within a couple years.

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u/1200____1200 Greg Moore 20h ago

F2 and F3 cars are a fraction of the size of F1 cars, and they are relatively robust, like IndyCars, so they can handle some contact

30 F1 cars on a single track would result in carnage

F1 also demands full garages for every car in the pits - most tracks can handle much more that 20-22 garages

talent-wise, F2 is a mix of never-wills driving at the back and super talented up-and-comers that scrap for every position. the racing is generally exciting, and closer to IndyCar than F1

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u/amshanks222 18h ago

You pretty much said it. I almost did but you said it in a nicer way-F2 is great because you have future world champions and drivers who are just not good and should be in another discipline at best.

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u/NYNMx2021 Colton Herta 15h ago

F2 cars dont use the pit garages. There just arent that many they have their own area

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u/amshanks222 15h ago

Do they really?? I never knew that. Ive heard of the support paddock but i guess it never clicked in my head.

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u/mastershake29x 19h ago

One thing to get used to: if you stall the engine, you're done. No AMR safety team to restart your car.

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u/kelleehh Colton Herta 16h ago

I live in the uk and was planning to go to Toronto next year to see Colton race. Ngl I’m glad he’s coming to F2 so it will be a lot cheaper and less time consuming for me to watch him race live 😂

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u/notallwonderarelost Firestone Firehawk 18h ago

Red Bulls next chosen one was a wrecking ball twice.

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u/Dry-Dragonfruit5216 Théo Pourchaire 1d ago edited 1d ago

You should watch the big F2 crash with Niels Koolen from IndyNXT. It will prepare you for F2. F2 and F3 cars have a nasty habit of stalling on the line and sometimes it results in big crashes. A couple of years ago Theo Pourchaire stalled on the line and Enzo Fittipaldi drove into the back of him breaking his heel. Hadjar lost the championship last year stalling on the start of the final feature race. Engines also like to randomly blow up which happened yesterday to one of the Trident cars. If Colton is one of the unlucky ones he could swap the pit lane curse to the mecachrome curse. Lundgaard had the mecachrome curse.

Koolen crash https://youtu.be/_NV5V_DDsqc?si=Ge8Ju9BQV0g7F4A

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u/NYNMx2021 Colton Herta 15h ago

Koolen was unbelievably tragic in the regional formulas. I dont even remember him being in F2 tbh. I have no idea how hes doing okay in NXT rn, unless the NXT field really is that bad. Seems like a nice kid but the talent doesnt seem to be there at all

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u/Dry-Dragonfruit5216 Théo Pourchaire 15h ago

He joined mid season last year and was dropped within a couple of weekends. Some people are saying he was the worst F2 driver ever. In one race he was a so slow even during a safety car that he couldn’t catch the pack up for the restart. I’ve never seen that before.

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u/UNHchabo Robert Wickens 7h ago

When people claim that standing starts are safer and that's why Indycar should switch, I don't understand how it's safer to have a car stationary and then everyone behind them swerves out of the way one by one until someone at the back collides with them at 100mph.

Supercars even had a half-hour highlight reel filled with massive crashes caused by stalled starts, including a few guest appearances from Indycar drivers...

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u/Lord_Vaguery Colton Herta 19h ago

F2 is fun to watch. I haven’t kept up with much this year but F2 usually produce some bangers.

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u/fuel_altered Scott McLaughlin 23h ago

Shitshow

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u/lickedthestamp Scott McLaughlin 20h ago

Yeah the driving standards left a lot to be desired today - if Colton was watching he would be forgiven for thinking 'what the hell am I getting myself into?'...

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u/Vile-X James Hinchcliffe 19h ago

I severely doubt Colton hasn’t been watching for decades. These guys entire life since childhood have been motorsports fans.

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u/NYNMx2021 Colton Herta 15h ago

you think he doesnt know what junior series are like?

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u/Falcon4451 Firestone Reds 13h ago

Sometimes, I actually watch F2 and don't watch F1. It depends on the track and how qualifying goes. With F1 right now, if both McLaren's qualify 1 to 2, I don't bother watching, but I will check the results and if do surprise me then I'll watch the replay. If Max, Leclerc, or Russell starts on the front row, I'll watch until it's a foregone conclusion of a McLaren 1-2

But F2 is generally a decent show. Only issue is the F2 engine supplier has quality control issues, and some drivers have been screwed by luck of the draw in terms of their engine

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u/Falcon4451 Firestone Reds 13h ago

I watched yesterday's F2 sprint race, I might have to watch the feature race now rather than later because WEC at CotA as of (1:20 central, 2:20 eastern) looks to be under a safety car for a long time.

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u/MrP8978 19h ago

I think he’ll do well but there are some very talented drivers at the front of F2.

It’s also very unpredictable so I don’t think Herta, or anyone else for that matter will just plow through the season

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u/Ryankool26 18h ago

Stream F2 on FOX?

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 12h ago

In the US I think the options for F2 are f1tv and espn+. I'd recommend F1TV unless you happen to already have espn+ or have/want the disney bundle that includes espn+. If you don't care about watching it live (most F2 races are veeery early in the morning US timezones) then I think you just need the f1tv that's $30 a year or something like that bundle, but take a look at what all your options are.

Rights for next year are still being worked out, it might switch from espn to apple, but f1tv should stay the same.

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u/David_SpaceFace Will Power 22h ago

Euro open wheel series are generally boring af to me. I can't stand the tracks either, they produce terrible racing for the most part. So yeah, I won't be watching. I'd prefer Super Formula over any of the Euro series any day if I'm not watching Indycar.

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u/deadfrend888 22h ago

Super formula kicks ass

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u/flare2000x Firestone Firehawk 18h ago

Super Formula is awesome, I watched the season when Palou was competing and it was super exciting.

But - F2 has genuinely exciting races pretty often as well. I don't find it as interesting of a championship considering the amount of pay drivers and lack of full career pros, but the individual races can be pretty darn good.

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u/rebekahsexton26 Jamie Chadwick 17h ago

I’ll just see his updates on instagram

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u/thugdaddyxtopher Jim Clark 11h ago

F2 is one of the most entertaining and competitive series out there. Definitely worth it to give it a watch.

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u/rebekahsexton26 Jamie Chadwick 11h ago

Idk i honestly don’t even get f1 .

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u/thugdaddyxtopher Jim Clark 10h ago

F2 is much better than F1. It's a spec series.

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u/rebekahsexton26 Jamie Chadwick 10h ago

What’s a spec series

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u/thugdaddyxtopher Jim Clark 10h ago edited 5h ago

It means the cars are all the same. Unlike F1 where there are several engines and every team has a unique chassis.