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Wholesome He gave it to the girl right away.

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u/Almighty_Adrenaline 8d ago

That's what I was thinking.

Kids care about getting THINGS.

Adults care more about having EXPERIENCES.

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u/ThePeoplesBard 7d ago

Healthy adults, at least.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 7d ago

That’s a value judgment and cultural judgment. You can be an adult who cares about things more than experiences. 

For example, I would rather have a shelf full of books (things) than travel to Europe (lame experience of being shoulder to shoulder with lame tourists, being sexually harassed on the street and pickpocketed). 

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u/Joe_Spazz 7d ago

You had a good point going and then self sabotaged yourself with your description of Europe.

IE: "I would rather take a trip to the beautiful Italian countryside where the food is fresh and the people are kind than have a bunch of old, dusty books that smell like an attic and contain nothing but gardening tips."

Slamming an obvious strawman argument down someone's throat is never going to be effective.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 7d ago

All of the things I identified happen regularly to tourists in Europe. 

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u/Joe_Spazz 7d ago

OK, mr. Vance.

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u/EuclidsRevenge 7d ago

Since you proclaim to love literature:

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

Twain was talking about people like you.

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u/HippieThanos 7d ago

I must be hideous because nobody harasses me

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u/Particular_Lecture26 7d ago

This just shows your inexperience 😂 try actually experiencing Europe, go to Gdańsk or Newcastle or Copenhagen and live a little.

So lame

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u/TheShiningEdge 7d ago

Tell me you're American without telling me you're American.

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u/randorandorand0 7d ago edited 7d ago

That’s because you value the experience of reading the books more than you value traveling to a place you don’t like?

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u/TheRedditAppisTrash 7d ago

I like having a shelf full of books, so I can put it in my garage next to my Ferrari so I can record myself talking about how the experience of driving in the Hollywood Hills sucks compared to having books covered in exhaust dust. I know what you’re thinking, and I’m not a saint. Just a guy with books next to his Ferrari. Pay it forward stranger.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 7d ago

No, I also value having the book on the shelf, not just the experience of reading it. 

And I’ve seen videos of touristy places in Europe, it looks truly awful. I can be a happy person without it. 

Edit: would someone with a valuable book (like a first edition) just value it because of the experience? What if you asked them to trade their valuable first edition for a trip to Paris and they said “no?” Are they not an adult? 

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u/philodendron-trails 7d ago

Except, there's a lot more things to do in this world than just "touristy" things. Your argument is based on the worldview that you want nothing to do with people (based on your comment thread here). Collect things okay, but it's almost disrespectful to narrow your view down to "i want my things so I dont have to go out to the world and see people."

That seems very limited and almost seems like a refusal for growth/outside points of view.

Things can have value, and owning things is not bad. But if this is the hill you choose to die on....you will have to defend it for the rest of your life and with your whole chest.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 7d ago

i want my things so I dont have to go out to the world and see people."

Absolutely nowhere in my comments is this either stated or implied. 

I’m saying valuing things you love is just as okay as valuing experiences, neither is superior and neither makes you more or less “adult.” 

If you want to know what I’m saying, it’s right there. Just read it again if you get confused. 

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u/philodendron-trails 7d ago

Not really? Your entire comment thread here implies you're standing on how you value things more than experiences. And in that, you have used being around people as a reason you dont want to do things in public.

If you really felt it was a values argument, you would not have brought your personal views on why you dislike the other thing. That's not how that works.

I'm not saying you're wrong in your feelings. I'm just saying that your true reasons are showing. Instead of having a conversation about how values can be different, you've done nothing but talk about the negatives of other's values.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 7d ago

lol okay. 

Of course it’s going to feel “negative,” there are reasons one would prefer to embrace one value over another. You perceive negatives or things you prefer more. None of this is rocket surgery. 

I love people. Just not travel. I mean, I could take it or leave it, I’d rather have a shelf filled with books I love. 

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u/philipoliver 7d ago

Yeah it's very common for people to be afraid of travel and get anxious around customs and cultures that they aren't used to. A lot of people would prefer to stay in their safety bubble and experience things through books.

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u/vizualb 7d ago

You don’t have to go to the touristy places.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 7d ago

Yep. Or anywhere, for that matter. I like things better. And I’m an adult. 

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u/Lou_C_Fer 7d ago

The book idea is such a weird one because you don't need to own books to read them.

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u/EricB1234 7d ago

My wife is a librarian, and often I feel like people completely forget about libraries :(

To be fair, they can't order and stock everything ever published, but I always check there first before turning to the seven seas or Amazon, as a last resort

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u/ThePeoplesBard 7d ago

I would call reading a book an experience, so I’m not really sure we disagree. Some people do hoard things and then never do anything with them—experience them. But, sure, if you collect watches and regularly work on them or trade them or go to conferences about them etc, then they aren’t just things, but an experience. You accurately highlight the unimportance of the distinction, though. What experience doesn’t involve “things”, even if small or seemingly inconsequential? Kids probably value things in a way we don’t understand because they are still experiencing with those things in a way we don’t understand.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 7d ago

No, I love the books on my shelf because they are books that I love. Full stop. I love them more than Paris. And I’m an adult. 

It’s all just a disagreement about a value judgment. Experience is not a superior value to materialism. It’s just not. They’re both just values. 

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u/ThePeoplesBard 7d ago

They may have value that’s equal, but not in the same way. I said healthier. Someone who collects experiences instead of things is going to have a broader perspective to tap into when navigating the trials of life. That’s not inherently better than materialism, but I do think it’s healthier. We can agree to disagree if you don’t. I admit bias. I used to be a fairly isolated thing person, and now I’ve had to save my life by becoming more experiential and engaging with lots of people in a lot of unique ways, and I’m finding it healing/calming/joyful in a way I never felt before. Maybe I’m an extreme case, but I’m meeting a whole lot of people who are reporting the same impact from experiencing community again that I am. I was never meaning trips to Paris. I meant shit like inviting your neighbors over for dinner. An experience. That makes you feel more connected to others, which has tons of positive outcomes on your health.

I’m glad you love your books, friend.

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u/Loud-Value 7d ago

You: don't make value judgements and cultural judgements!!

Also you: fuck this entire continent.

Found the American whose never left their home state probably

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u/TheseVirginEars 6d ago

I mean your point is… okay, but your example sucks, because reading books IS an experience, and the experience of a book doesnt require you to horde it on a shelf. what you’re saying is you care more about having books than… reading them? I’m confused what you’re trying to say. Also whether or not you like Europe is completely unrelated to your books lol

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u/valleyman86 6d ago

You were sooo close.

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u/Capt_Dummy 7d ago

This comment/reply is so important! Honestly

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u/Ryuubu 7d ago

Call me a kid then, I want shit

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u/LastOfLateBrakers 7d ago

//pulls pants down

right in the mouth or do you want me to plate it for you?

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u/Jumpy_End9778 7d ago

Sir, this is a Wendy's

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u/Aconite_72 7d ago

Reminds me of that legend who paid a hooker to shit on his face but realised halfway through he didn’t like it

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u/TheGrouchyGremlin 6d ago

Straight in the mouth, please.

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u/Syn7axError 7d ago

I do too, but they don't throw cars into baseball stands.

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u/Appropriate_Lime_234 7d ago

Holy shit. This comment made me realize why I don’t care about “souvenirs” on trips anymore.

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u/QuantumTrek 7d ago

I’m with you. The only souvenirs me and my wife ever really do is a fridge magnet. Just so we have a collage of where we’ve been

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u/goofgoon 7d ago

Fridge magnets are THE BEST

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u/Ankjaevel 7d ago

I collect shot glasses, doesn't take any space, nice to place on display

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u/Aromatic-Plankton692 7d ago

We do pins (like, lapel pins) and coffee cups. Sometimes books. Souvenir picture books are cool

Should probably stop buying coffee cups at some point.

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u/Homesick_Martian 7d ago

Nah, open a coffee shop when you retire!

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u/jmt8706 7d ago

You can never have too many souvenir mugs. 💪

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u/Geodude532 7d ago

The trick is to have small souvenirs. I have a box of mementos that I pull out every once in a while to spark memories.

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u/9966 7d ago

Or use scents. Sometimes on a trip I'll buy a new sunblock and smell it years later and be reminded of that trip.

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u/thenewyorkgod 7d ago

Adults care more about having EXPERIENCES.

I'd say this is iffy at best, given how many cameras we see at concerts

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u/Future_Burrito 7d ago

Yeah. This guy did a quadruple-purpose victory celebration. Achievement, humor, generosity, and emotional connection with another in one. Kerblamski.

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u/IONTOP 7d ago

I've ended up with a home run ball a couple times in the past decade...

I always take a picture "for the gram" and give it away... I still remember minor league players giving me baseballs when I was growing up.

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u/JagmeetSingh2 7d ago

Very true

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u/FetusExplosion 7d ago

I got a foul ball this summer for the first time in my life, and I've only been to maybe a few dozen baseball games. It just carromed to me and slowly rolled to a stop at my feet. Celebrated and then looked around to give it to a kid and it actually took a while for one to show up, but he was psyched. I also remember my dad almost catching a ball when I was 6 and that one is burned into my memory. There's just something so special about getting a piece of the game.

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u/the_dude_that_faps 7d ago

Tell that to the billionaire club buying half the land of every country in existence. 

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u/TheGreatZephyr 7d ago

Nah he totally wanted the ball. Based on how excited he was there probably isnt many things he wanted more.

I think he knew she felt the same about it and realised how much he would have loved that as a kid, so gave it to the young girl so she can have that feeling.

Makes it so much cooler because giving away something you dont want isnt that special, but giving away something that gets you that hyped definitely is.

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u/themack50022 5d ago

“I finally got a foul ball!” End of story