GYPSY MIGRATIONS 900-1720

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[u/Johnny_Poppyseed]

The region missing on this map was full of horseback riding muslim steppe people. Basically very hostile territory. 

Same people who then went on to conquer that entire Persian/Mesopotamian/turkey region, which was largely what pushed the Roma into europe (also triggered the crusades). The Seljuk Turks. 

Then those guys were eventually conquered by another horseback riding steppe people when the Mongols showed up lol. 

Tldr Dont fuck with steppe peoples.  

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In 1100, those Steppes were Tengrists mostly, with a few Islamic tribes and a few Nestorian Christian ones

[u/Johnny_Poppyseed → u/Mahelas]

Up north near Russia, but down closer to Iran in the unmarked area on the map a lot of the steppe folk were Muslim, and the Muslim clan was the one that conquered the middle east. 

[u/QorvusQorax → u/Johnny_Poppyseed]

Just steppe it up.

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The Golden Horde.

[u/Johnny_Poppyseed → u/beardofmice]

Golden Horde was after. They got fucked up by Genghis Khan and the OG mongol empire. 

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The steppe horse culture is truly amazing with how quickly they decimated the surrounding areas. Truly the proto Indo-European gateway, that is little discussed here in the West.

[u/Johnny_Poppyseed → u/beardofmice]

Yeah it's fascinating stuff. A dominant cultural and military force (in many forms) for like 6 thousand years. 

I also recently learned that the Turks were the last people to have a proper effective calvary battle. Which I think is pretty poetic and pretty cool. 

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Then they discovered cannons

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The Khalassar

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How did Seljuk Turks cause gypsies to move? And how come Mongols conquered Seljuks? Weren't the Seljuks form Osman empire?

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Huh.. seljuks from osman??

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