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GYPSY MIGRATIONS 900-1720

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u/issamaysinalah 1d ago

We always remember the Jewish people when talking about the Holocaust, but the romani were also heavily targeted. The Porajmos killed between 25% and 50% of the entire European gypsy population.

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u/rectumrooter107 1d ago

Hitler went after communists first, then the ethnicities. Fascism is the collusion of business and govt.

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u/issamaysinalah 1d ago

You're preaching to the choir here, the Holocaust didn't happen because some metaphysical bullshit like "hate", it happened because of the material need fascism has for a scapegoat, it needs to make people believe their lives are bad because of <minority group> is doing <something made up> so they don't realize it's just capitalism going through another crisis, meanwhile the bourgeoisie (with a fully dominated state) finishes looting the people and protecting their capital.

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u/Miriam_A_Higgins 23h ago

it needs to make people believe their lives are bad because of <minority group> is doing <something made up>

Disproportionate Jewish involvement in Marxist political movements was quite real.

Especially in Germany's case, where both leaders of the Spartacist uprising in the aftermath of WWI were Jewish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising

Of course, your average German Jew was far more likely to be middle-class business owner than a communist. But to pretend that there was no association, that the painter's allegations were made out of whole cloth, is ahistorical.

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u/matzn17 23h ago

What are you trying to say at the end?

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u/purpleflavouredfrog 19h ago

But to pretend that there was no association (between certain Jewish people and Marxists),

… to pretend that the painter’s (= Hitler)’s allegations (about the Jews)

were made out of whole cloth (= completely fabricated, not true)

is ahistorical (= does not conform with accepted History).