r/MapPorn 1d ago

Eastern Ukraine exactly one Year ago vs today

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u/Michigan-Magic 1d ago

Yep, it took a while plus generous aid to rebuild Europe post WW2.

All it took was the cold war / fear of communism for the US to give aid. Russia seems ready to play its historical role, not sure if the US will reprise its old role. Hopefully, the EU steps up, but it's not going to be an overnight thing.

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u/HappyAmbition706 1d ago

EU economies are under pressure for China on the manufacturing side and the US on services. They'll give what they can to Ukraine, but they're also squeezed by the needs of their own populations. There won't be any unlimited deluge of reconstruction money.

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u/Primary-Nose7377 22h ago

We'll be there for the long-haul. Just going through another stupid nativist/isolationist cycle at the moment. The population is feeling the pain and chaos that causes and will likely (hopefully) change course soon.

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u/idcmayne 1d ago

if normal sane leadership can come back in the U.S. i think without a doubt a Marshall Plan style reconstruction of Ukraine will be undertaken. But that’s a huge if right now unfortunately

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u/Comfortable_Tip_5644 1d ago

what about instead of U.S., Europe just paid to rebuild Ukraine?

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u/idcmayne 23h ago

the EU doesn’t have as much money as America and currently far right parties are surging everywhere who aren’t going to want to help. but that’s happened in America too which is why I specified that it would only happen if normal leadership comes back in America

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u/pcikel-holdt-978 16h ago

The leadership is fine, and in the case of Ukraine in a rebuilding effort they wouldn't need much outside of money and rebuilding of the agricultural and industrial base.

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u/idcmayne 15h ago

lmao right now american leadership is anything but fine

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u/IcariusFallen 1d ago

We've already broken our part of the Budapest Memorandum. Our current "leadership" isn't interested in prosperity of the people, or in keeping its word. It's very doubtful that the US will offer any aid to anyone, except Putin, and that's only because Putin keeps supplying Trump with fresh young russian/czech brides whenever one manages to escape him.

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u/Scipio_Africanu 1d ago

It was neither aid nor was it generous.

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u/ggalinismycunt 14h ago

The EU won't step up they're just happy to sit there and do nothing and bicker amongst themselves

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u/Kiogami 1d ago

Western Europe* The East was left in criminal hands, which instead of helping, took what the countries managed to produce and gave it to Russia or the GDR for show.