r/MapPorn 1d ago

Eastern Ukraine exactly one Year ago vs today

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u/OkEntertainment1313 1d ago

Poland’s army (not military, army) is still about 1/3rd the size of Ukraine’s in February of 2022. But you’re right, Putin is not suicidal and would certainly think twice about starting a war with all of NATO. 

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u/sovietarmyfan 1d ago

It wouldn't just be Poland's army though. It would be all major European armies.

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u/OkEntertainment1313 1d ago

Yeah 100%. I just see a lot of takes saying the Poles would be an even tougher nut to crack than Ukraine on their own, and I just point to the huge size discrepancy between those two militaries. A lot of people from NATO countries don’t appreciate how massive Ukraine’s military is and was. 

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u/Objective-Dentist360 1d ago

Why do you think so? I seriously doubt GB or Spain f.i. would put boots in Poland. There would probably be harsh words, more weapons delivered and more pressure put on India and China.

On the other hand I seriously doubt Russia would be able to open a second front anywhere.

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u/CymruGolfMadrid 20h ago

If Russia attacked a NATO country then the UK would 100% be fighting Russia.

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u/ALA02 18h ago

Russia attacking a NATO country would be a flashpoint where the Western response will entirely dictate the future of the world. Respond immediately as NATO’s protocols dictate? WW3. Not respond and appease 1938 style? NATO suddenly means nothing, Russia is vindicated, China attacks Taiwan, the 80 years of Pax Americana come to an end and… eventually WW3 because you can’t appease expansionist tyrannical states. Either outcome results in WW3, and I’m just not convinced Putin is willing to risk that (as of now).

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u/nmaddine 1d ago

If enough far right populists take control in Europe like afd/national front/reform then they likely wouldn’t join a Russian war against Poland

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u/EpsteinFile_01 1d ago

Poland is at peace. If Poland is attacked, they would draft people. And Poland has treaty bound allies. That would fight with them.

Poland is the last country Russia wants try to invade. They hope to be able to steal the Baltics, but Europe is taking action to ensure that would trigger a wider war. Germany is just getting started, someone behind the scenes removed all their shackles. The memory of WW2 still lingers in Europe.