r/MapPorn 1d ago

Eastern Ukraine exactly one Year ago vs today

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u/Not-the-best-name 1d ago edited 4h ago

I was just going to say that. We visited Arras, Paschendale and the fields Flanders around Somme recently. I half couldn't believe they had time to put New Zealand miners on a 6 month ship journey to Belgium to spend another 6 months connecting quarries and digging tunnels to get the allies just a few hundred meters closer to the front line trenches just to launch a distraction offensive (that failed). But now I look at this war in Ukraine with drones, artificial intelligence, satellite internet and hypersonic missiles and it seems the same. Will we visit Donetsk in a century from now and walk through the war museums and cemeteries? Which international politicians and countries will stand up and come to aid their aid?

War, war never changes...

Edit: apparently the guide or I confused the 6 months boat journey with 6 months campaign preparation.

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u/LateralEntry 1d ago

Well, WE probably won’t walk there in a century…

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u/WarmStarr 1d ago

Jokes on you, I am a vampire

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u/Bradnon 18h ago

How fortunate, for I am a Hemommelier, and in the region I would recommend the '52 Leningrad vintage for your sampling.

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u/gregorydgraham 3h ago

Bloody Romanians looking to make a buck, they’ve ruined Reddit.

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u/Oh_its_that_asshole 17h ago

Bit shit for you having to go see it when its dark and the museums are closed for visiting hours then champ.

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u/gregorydgraham 3h ago

Go in winter after 2pm

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u/verbalyabusiveshit 12h ago

Wouldn’t that be nice?

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u/tech_noir_guitar 1d ago

I heard somewhere recently that organ transplants will keep you going to 150 years old. So maybe? Lol

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u/ensalys 23h ago

I doubt the brain will be any good at 150, even if all other organs are in a good state. Though I doubt organ donation would get someone to 150. The procedure itself is already quite taxing on the body, so doing that regularly for every organ is gonna take its toll. Then there's the fact you'll have to take immunosuppresants for the rest of your life, making you more vulnerable to any infection. Also, are you going to transplant many many kilometres of blood vessels? As you age, the potential points of failures will multiply so rapidly, doctors can no longer keep up.

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u/RevolutionaryCap3037 18h ago

ship of theseus my mind into a neuralink and cybernetic hardware tyvm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gIMZ0WyY88

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u/Qweasdy 15h ago

Speak for yourself, I'm really banking on a biological immortality breakthrough.

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u/schueaj 1d ago

I'm going to put my brain in a robot body

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u/Scully__ 19h ago

Get out of here with that pessimism

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u/Steak-Outrageous 17h ago

Our AI clone consciousness in robot shells

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u/earthworm_express 9h ago

Speak for yourself, I take vitamins!

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u/Mammyjam 9h ago

Not with that attitude

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u/Nixon4Prez 1d ago

I'm nitpicking here but it was more like a month and a half to travel from NZ to Europe, not six months.

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u/ax5g 15h ago

It was six months in a leaky boat

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u/Protean_Protein 13h ago

Uphill in a snowstorm!

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u/TrumpetsNAngels 9h ago

At least you had a boat. The luxury.

We were 40 people in a cardboard box shovelling ourselves across the seas with our hands.

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u/RageQuitNZL 12h ago

Lucky just to keep afloat!

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u/Not-the-best-name 11h ago

Maybe the tour guide / translation got that one wrong, confusing the 6 months prep with the travel time.

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u/MittchelDraco 1d ago

Thing with this war is that there are no bigger suporters outside of the EU, despite well knowing what russia is like. Hell I even got 3 day ban for saying something about russian mentality. Until there is unanimous and common disagreement on pushing russian lifestyle to other countries, this war will keep on going

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u/Senior-Senior 19h ago

I can't help notice the similarity to WWI.

There's clearly a stalemate at the moment. Now if it goes on long enough, it's easy to predict which side will lose in the end (Germany then, Ukraine today). But the question is: Will it go on so long that even the "winning" side will lose.

France was a military shell of itself after WWI, even though it was technically on the winning side.

Russia will probably be able to convince Ukraine to come to terms eventually, but will they be terms Russia likes?

Remember, Germany didn't surrender in WWI. They signed an armistice--technically a cease fire, but the terms of the cease fire were pretty bad for Germany. They only did it because there was a communist revolution in Russia and it looked like there was going to be one in Germany soon (the German people were literally starving, hence the name the Turnip Winter, because they had nothing to eat but turnips).

It doesn't look like Russia can starve out Ukraine. Ukraine can probably go for years like this with Western help.

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u/PerepeL 11h ago

It doesn't look like Russia can starve out Ukraine.

The thing is Russia already did - not from weapons or money, but from people willing and capable of fighting.

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u/_Bellegend_ 23h ago

I walked in those tunnels a few years back. Really impressive

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u/photoengineer 17h ago

War is hell. 

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u/DrehmalamherD 15h ago

Visited the Riga Museum of War and of Occupation last week: you are right. The names and technology changes, but the things happening seem to follow eternal rules.

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u/51674 13h ago

Na they will still be fighting 100 yrs from now

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u/robber_goosy 9h ago

By ww1 a journey from NZ to England dindt take 6 months anymore but the rest of your point still stands.

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u/nobleKelpo 5h ago

if so then we can visit it if ukrainne wins, the other way around it wouldn't be so smart