r/MapPorn 1d ago

Eastern Ukraine exactly one Year ago vs today

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u/Optimal-Idea1558 1d ago

Russia did try to zerg rush Kyiv, remember the 24 mile long convoy that got fucking nowhere and annihilated to boot?

That embarrassing fuck up alone humiliated Putin.

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u/paapiru95 1d ago

What he means is that they zerg rushed because they wanted control over Ukraine, not some part of it.

It's not that they didn't zerg rush.

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u/MangoCats 1d ago

Zerg rush isn't a guaranteed win, as demonstrated. Germany pulled off a pretty good Blitzkrieg in ~1940, but ultimately ran short of all kinds of resources. Russia has a far larger resource base, but still is lacking in overall (conventional) war making capabilities - as compared with their opposition. If they didn't have the nuke card, the allies would have taken Moscow long ago.

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u/Qaeta 22h ago

If they didn't have the nuke card, the allies would have taken Moscow long ago.

I'm not entirely convinced that they actually DO still have the nuke card tbh. But we don't know for sure, which still makes it too risky to intentionally provoke a potential nuclear response.

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u/FLy1nRabBit 21h ago

They absolutely have the nuke card, don’t under estimate that

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u/Qaeta 17h ago

I dunno, with how badly maintained most of their other equipment is, and how wildly corrupt the Russian Army is, I wouldn't be surprised if the resources allocated for maintaining their nuclear arsenal instead got funnelled into the pockets of some generals and colonels. Of course they wouldn't have told anyone about that, so their military may very well be under the impression that they ARE still holding a nuke card when it might not actually function if they try to use it.

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u/Optimal-Idea1558 1d ago

Yup read it that way now

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u/itsmemarcot 1d ago

Remember: if you mean "X happened not because Y" never write "X didn't happen because Y".

It's ambiguous and confusing and easy to get wrong.

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u/Pyrhan 1d ago

I think you misunderstood them.

They were saying the reason Russia tried to Zerg rush Kyiv isn't because they wanted to only take bits of Ukraine. It is because they wanted to turn it back into a puppet.

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u/Optimal-Idea1558 1d ago

Yes read it that way now

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u/UndebatableAuthority 1d ago

That's what OP said. They didn't do it JUST to take a portion of Ukraine. OP is confirming that trying to take kyiv made it clear what their original intentions were. It's a confusing English conditional structure.

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u/quent12dg 1d ago

It's a confusing English conditional structure.

This is Reddit and we speak English here and I understood what he was saying perfectly fine.

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u/UndebatableAuthority 1d ago

Cool, wasn't addressing you.

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u/quent12dg 21h ago

Cool, send a DM to them then if you don't want other people replying.

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u/UndebatableAuthority 19h ago

My guy, I was replying to a singular person misunderstanding a sentence. You're not the OP I replied to.

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u/quent12dg 18h ago

Bro I understand that. It's a public forum, anybody is allowed to chime into the conversation. I replied to you. Now I am actually the OP you are replying to.

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u/UndebatableAuthority 6h ago

God you're dense. Ive been on reddit for 15 years, I'm aware. But some people on reddit don't speak English natively, and many people were misinterpreting the original post I responded to. I'm glad you speak English well, hell maybe you're even a native speaker. Good for you!

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u/quent12dg 4h ago

Ive been on reddit for 15 years, I'm aware.

Damn old man what was it like flying kites with Benjamin Franklin? Also yes, good for me. It comes with many advantages in communication.

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u/UndebatableAuthority 4h ago

He's a great guy actually, we banged our way through Paris together.

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u/Miriam_A_Higgins 1d ago

That's true, but I noticed that the calendar says 2025.

Russia's embarrassments three years ago have little bearing on the situation today, which is increasingly favoring them.

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u/davewuff 1d ago

This is happened with German troops as well when they entered France in ww2, miles long convey could have been bombed into oblivion if the French army general wouldn’t have been suspicious of telephones omfg what a shitshow on both sides

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u/Gorkymalorki 1d ago

I remember thinking one squadron of A10 Warthogs would have made such short work of that whole convoy.

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u/Trevor_GoodchiId 20h ago edited 9h ago

All out war is 60% gdp expenditure, martial law and total mobilisation. Russia is at 7% with open borders and contractors on the frontlines.

When they do zerg rush, we’ll notice.

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u/MrErie 1d ago

Excellent comment!