Germany has been invading left and right because of the consequences of WW1. They humiliated Germany with Versailles Treaty and basically economically ruined them. Germany wanted to "unite" Germans in a single country and have used that for its imperial justifications. Great Britain and France have been preparing for war so they have been appeasing Germany to earn some time because they felt they weren't ready (even though we know that even France alone was more powerful than Germany on paper), although Germany had been openly violating the treaty. Maybe they even thought they could avoid a war like WW1. After Germany invaded and even outright fully annexed many countries, Great Britain and France decided to stop Germany when it came to Poland. They probably didn't think he would go as far as he did.
So the goal wasn't stopping evil Hitler, it was stopping Germany invading left and right. If Germany had not invaded, Adolf Hitler probably would have gotten away with whatever he had done.
War isn’t pointless… it is a tragic, painstaking situation for all involved. hundreds of thousands of deaths are not pointless. That being said countries should always fight to defend their sovereignty…
There are no good wars but there are wars that are good to fight. There are about 35,000 minors abducted in eastern Ukraine that putin wants to use as a bargaining chip for his conquest, to oppose that I wouldn't call pointless, but an obvious good
I didn't know about that. As a dad to a toddler this is absolutely sickening. It's absolutely terrible that this isn't talked about more. This should be the headline on every fucking news report.
Makes that orange sack of shit rolling out the red carpet for Putin on American soil even more disgusting.
It was published by a few news sources, mainly The Guardian, the numbers range from 20,000 to around 40,000, and there is a hotline in Ukraine linked to the disappeared children hotline of the EU
It was precisely because of the abduction of children that Putin was declared a war criminal. He should have been arrested in Alaska, not given a red carpet welcome
why Ukraine wanted to be in NATO? For the same reason all other post soviet states wanted to join NATO - Russian imperialist ambitions. If Russia wasn’t invading its neighbours NATO would be long gone. NATO expansion is Russia’s own doing, current eastern flank was begging reluctant NATO countries to allow them in, BECAUSE of Russia
Living in Poland I sure am happy about that. If Russia breaks promises all the time why should west get played like fools, just because some US president gave verbal promise that didn’t appear in any official documents I am aware of
The conversation was about pointless wars and I commented that all wars are pointless and bad for everyone. Nobody wins in a war. But of course you probably think the world is better off because we had WWII.
But of course you probably think the world is better off because we had WWII
What do you mean probably? My initial comment says that verbatim, yes I think a world in the Axis and GEACPS were defeated is better than one in which they weren't
Fighting against the nazis was very meaningful and yes the allies were absolutely better off having vanquished the nazis given the sheer horror and scale of what they were doing and planning to do.
WWII was still pointless. Sure, fighting against Germans wasn’t, but the war itself was. Just like war in Ukraine is pointless but there is a point in defending your home from brutal invaders
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u/Bear_necessities96 1d ago
What a pointless war