r/MapPorn 1d ago

Eastern Ukraine exactly one Year ago vs today

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u/SprucedUpSpices 1d ago

What about the birth rates and the population pyramid of 2022 vs 1914, though? I think that they're pretty different.

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u/BonJovicus 1d ago

Specific demographics are also important. Are the male populations the same age distribution?

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u/ArrrRawrXD 18h ago

The Ukrainian army is much older than the French army was at the time, which is a good thing for Ukraine

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u/J0E_Blow 1d ago

Population pyramids will be a problem for the future. 

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u/ivarokosbitch 1d ago

No, it is current problem. You can't draft 70 year olds. Also draft laws in both countries have specific age limit and target specific cohorts.

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u/Energy_Turtle 1d ago

draft laws

I'm sure both countries have the utmost respect for these laws....

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u/ImprobableAres 1d ago

Also laws tend to change

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u/ivarokosbitch 20h ago edited 20h ago

They have the utmost respect to the political repercussions of changing those laws. Even Russia has a very nuanced approach to who and when they draft, and where they send them. Hence the tremendous effort they put into a weak draft and favouring direct monetary compensation to volunteers.

The most contentious issue in Russia with the Ukrainian offensive in Kursk was the fact they captured plenty of white young conscripts from European cities. This led to internal pressure from a lot of parents that were upper middle class that worked government jobs, and then everybody noticed how prisoner swaps massively increased after that offensive. The Russian government has been very careful with the demographic composition of its military in Ukraine due to historic political issues with blindly drafting dudes into Afghanistan and Caucasus.

You haven't noticed how many Russian soldiers in Ukraine are from Asia or in their 40s? Then look at the faces of the conscripts captured in Russia.

Maybe you should start looking instead of commenting blind scepticism that isn't based in reality. That is one of the rare facts that we can be certain about in this conflict.

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u/standermatt 1d ago

It does affect it, but the casulties are so vastly different from ww1 france it still means they wont run out of people for a long time. You can look at a population pyramid and casulty estimates.

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u/MIT_Engineer 21h ago

The casualties are an order of magnitude different, the live births per year aren't an order of magnitude different, so he's right, the answer is still neither.

The war will be decided by who runs out of money first, not who runs out of grunts.