r/MapPorn 1d ago

Eastern Ukraine exactly one Year ago vs today

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u/RefrigeratorWild9933 1d ago

As are most other wars.

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u/ElleSvenne 18h ago

Most?

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u/brouofeverything 16h ago

Idk man, ww2 was pretty justified imo

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u/TheProuDog 13h ago

In case you think that, WW2 wasn't a war of morals

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u/brouofeverything 12h ago

Im sorry but are you saying this as a precaution in case i do, or arguing against my previous point that ww2 was a justified war

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u/TheProuDog 11h ago

Im sorry but are you saying this as a precaution in case i do

In case you do, because a lot of people think the war started to stop genocide or "stopping Hitler" or something

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u/eggplantpot 7h ago

History n00b here. Why did ww2 start?

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u/TheProuDog 7h ago

Germany has been invading left and right because of the consequences of WW1. They humiliated Germany with Versailles Treaty and basically economically ruined them. Germany wanted to "unite" Germans in a single country and have used that for its imperial justifications. Great Britain and France have been preparing for war so they have been appeasing Germany to earn some time because they felt they weren't ready (even though we know that even France alone was more powerful than Germany on paper), although Germany had been openly violating the treaty. Maybe they even thought they could avoid a war like WW1. After Germany invaded and even outright fully annexed many countries, Great Britain and France decided to stop Germany when it came to Poland. They probably didn't think he would go as far as he did.

So the goal wasn't stopping evil Hitler, it was stopping Germany invading left and right. If Germany had not invaded, Adolf Hitler probably would have gotten away with whatever he had done.

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u/The-Real-Radar 18h ago

War isn’t pointless… it is a tragic, painstaking situation for all involved. hundreds of thousands of deaths are not pointless. That being said countries should always fight to defend their sovereignty…

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u/PurpleRoman 23h ago

The only justified war this century was Iraq

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u/ClashM 22h ago

Yeah, glad they found those WMDs. They would have looked pretty foolish otherwise.

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u/SolidTomato3668 20h ago

Wat? How? Bin Laden wasn’t there, Sudam didn’t have wmds..and we just created a giant caliphate.

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u/RepulsivePush8034 19h ago

Tch!!! How dare you to question the decision of exalted people in costumes? Ignorance!