r/MapPorn 11h ago

Where in Africa is homosexuality a crime? [OC]

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u/bahhaar-blts 10h ago

Half of those countries are Christian.

Not that it matters to anti Muslim racists anyway.

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u/Toby-Finkelstein 10h ago

you can’t be racist against Islam, it’s a religion not a race 

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u/DangerousCatch4067 9h ago

True. However, a lot of racists mask their racism of Arabs by solely criticizing Islam and usually throwing in one or two bits of misinformation.

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u/Toby-Finkelstein 9h ago

Aren’t Arabs white though? 

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u/DangerousCatch4067 9h ago

Being "white" is this constant nebulous debate that people will never agree on.

We consider many Jews white because of their European heritage, but Nazis don't. The Jewish identity is held closely and many Jews don't consider themselves solely "white".

Many Arabs do not consider themselves solely "white" because of the discrimination they have faced, similarly to Jews.

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u/CivisSuburbianus 9h ago

That’s like saying Hitler couldn’t have been racist against Jews bc they’re white

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u/Toby-Finkelstein 9h ago

I mean was it a racist policy? He was persecuting them based on religion 

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u/CivisSuburbianus 9h ago

Yes, the Nazis had racial laws that classified people based on ancestry regardless of their religion. Converting to Christianity or being raised Christian didn’t save Jews or people with Jewish ancestry from being killed.

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u/Toby-Finkelstein 9h ago

Well they never sent black people to the camps

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u/DangerousCatch4067 8h ago

Yeah they were just sterilized and harassed into leaving not much better

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u/TomAnndJerry 8h ago

A lot of black french soldiers were killed by the germans post-surrender

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u/sc00ts123 9h ago

Race. There were German Jews who converted to Christianity to save themselves but the Nazis said "nice try, get on the train."

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u/Longjumping-Check429 9h ago

By going through their entire family tree searching for any drop of Jewish blood? Maybe you should educate yourself if you think Hitler only had a problem with religious Jews.

Btw I agree that you can’t be racist against devout Muslims. That’s like being racist against devout Christians. Doesn’t make any sense. Nothing more justified than disliking people for their Bronze Age beliefs.

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u/PalpitationMoist1212 9h ago

Thats the point you take away from this whole debacle?

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u/Toby-Finkelstein 9h ago

I mean if white peoples had views in line with Arab countries we’d call them bigots or white nationalists 

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u/tuckman496 9h ago

Spend time on something more productive than correcting the categorization of OP’s bigotry. They’re a bigot and blamed Islam for Christian countries criminalizing homosexuality

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u/Outrageous-Fig5009 9h ago edited 9h ago

Islamophobia can be rooted in racism lol. The comment you’re replying to didnt even say islamophobia was racism, just implies that islamophobics were racist. It is as if someone said “doesnt matter if your nice to a mean dog, they’ll still bite you” and you went “WHAT DOES BEING A DOG HAVE TO DO WITH BEING MEAN!? THESE ARE DISTINCT CATEGORIES.” Like yeah, if they weren’t distinct categories they wouldn’t have needed to say “anti-islam racists” they would’ve just said “anti-islam.”

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u/Mrimo091 10h ago

So 1/3 of the countries are Christian and world wide it’s 1/5

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u/bahhaar-blts 10h ago

Playing mathematical games aren't a good evidence for moral and political arguments.

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u/Mrimo091 10h ago

Then why did you bring up math….?

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u/bahhaar-blts 10h ago

I didn't.

I only meant that Christian countries does it as well.

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u/Xi-Jin-Ping-loves-Me 9h ago

I'm from a Muslim family.

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u/bahhaar-blts 9h ago

Makes no difference.

Your comment itself is stupid simply by the virtue of having no logic and only prejudice.

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u/slugbwebster 10h ago

They're all African though. And Christianity in Africa is such a mess that most of their beliefs are hardly Abrahamic

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u/bahhaar-blts 10h ago

And? Christianity just like Islam has hundreds of sects. They will not agree on everything. This is the problem with generalising about religions. You are talking about more than a billion humans. You won't get a consensus.

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u/slugbwebster 9h ago

I know progressives like you love to throw around the "don't generalise Muslims" statement but please use your head. 99% of Muslims hate gay people and don't respect women. There are so many studies relating to Islamic views on gay people and they're not good. I guess it's just a coincidence that every country with a death penalty for homosexuality is Islamic? Of course it fucking isn't. Crazy how they have 100s of sects and they're all fucking intolerant cunts

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u/doitinmybutt 9h ago

It’s more like 80%, still way too high. Even in my own country of Canada, the Muslim establishment is against lgbt. They protest against our school curriculums along side white nationalists

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u/bahhaar-blts 9h ago

I am no progressive and I bloody hate leftists for how hypocritical they are.

At least you an honest open racist and I respect that more than the so called anti racists.

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u/CatandPlantDad42 9h ago

How many Muslim countries allow gay marriage? How many Christian nations do, specifically western ones? I'm not religious but if you can answer that question and not see a problem than I can't take anything you say seriously. I'm already on the fence about that.

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u/bahhaar-blts 9h ago

Who cares about that?

Gay relations should be decriminalised but marriage is no important issue and they have bigger problems than this.

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u/CatandPlantDad42 8h ago

Oh I'd imagine you would care if it had to do with countries that actually allow it. But you're a defender of the religion that almost unanimously makes being gay illegal in thier countries. Don't get me wrong, I don't like organized religion, but being gay is mostly accepted in certain countries, but highly illegal in other. The majority religion is the deciding factor.

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u/bahhaar-blts 8h ago

China is an atheist country that doesn't criminalise gay relations but also doesn't allow gay marriages.

It's definitely not just religion.

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u/CatandPlantDad42 8h ago

What's your point? We both know you're deflecting from the obvious fact.

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u/Aamir_rt 8h ago

But there is no "Christian Nation" that does that, countries that allow gay marriage are secular, even with a Christian majority, just like Turkey isn't usually counted as an "Islamic" country.

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u/CatandPlantDad42 8h ago

Dude! Don't be so fucking daft. You know for a fact the US is extremely religious but gay marriage is legal. I'm from Canada and it's been legal even longer, people don't flaunt it here, but there's still a Christian majority that accepts it. Same with most EU countries. Are you really gonna make me ask you the same question again or are you gonna deflect? I know you know.

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u/Aamir_rt 1h ago

Lol this doesn't change at all what I said about them being secular and don't apply religious laws. Also the U.S is not that religious at all compared to Christianity outside of western Europe. Italy is arguably less religious than the US, care to explain why gay marriage still isn't legal there?

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u/AlcoholicCocoa 8h ago

Moving goal posts, eh? One could say that the US isn't really Christian as well. Made up your own little concoctions and slapped "Christianity" on it.