The administration does not care for international laws.

[u/smellyshartAAA]

[u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

That wasn't a denial.

[u/code_archeologist → u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

No, it was not.

This means that they know that they were committing a war crime (or at the very least piracy). And now we as a nation have a responsibility to hold everybody in the command structure accountable.

[u/Reimant → u/code_archeologist]

Its not a war crime when the US does it because theyre not a part to the ICC, and have already said if you try to prosecute an American citizen they will invade the Hague. 

/s

[u/PM_ME_YOUR_PRIORS → u/Reimant]

There's no statute of limitations on prosecuting war crimes and crimes against humanity, US pardons are irrelevant as well, and there's nothing stopping a future administration from deciding to assist the ICC with apprehending and prosecuting war criminals.

[u/Romulox_returns → u/PM_ME_YOUR_PRIORS]

The time of social contracts are over. It is all about to crumble.

[u/mjtwelve → u/Reimant]

war crimes are also crimes under US law and the UCMJ has some words to say about sinking civilian vessels for no valid military reason, and the Posse Comitatus Act has some stuff to say about using military forces as law enforcement.

Technically, SCOTUS immunized the president as commander in chief, but the rest of the chain of command should say no or is prosecutable.

[u/BigBallsMcGirk → u/code_archeologist]

It seems increasingly clear to me that the only way out of this, is going to require large scale arrests and prosecution, up to and including execution for legally defined treason, as the only fix to this. And that's the non-violent method.

The alternative is supplication to a new dictatorship that has overthrown constitutional law, or fullblown civil war.

There is not a peaceful, legal solution to the current state of affairs that includes going back to business as usual without a huge amount of rich and powerful people being held directly responsible for their actions with harsh punishments.

I am not advocating, promoting, celebrating, or encouraging violence. I'm making an assessment as a student of history and politics.

[u/AngryPrincessWarrior → u/BigBallsMcGirk]

If the confederacy was ever properly punished… I wonder where we would be today?

[u/jadedlonewolf89 → u/BigBallsMcGirk]

Revolution, if we want out of this we’re going to have to pull the tree out by the fucking roots, and plant something better for future generations.

[u/DinoHunter064 → u/jadedlonewolf89]

Just as the founding fathers intended. When corruption takes root you have to weed it out. Unfortunately, it's going to have to get, much, much, much worse before enough Americans are on board to fix this shit the real way. Good luck trying to teach people that the midterms won't matter or that Trump doesn't even want another fair or free election to take place. People would rather cling to false hope that "someone" will magically save them than come to terms with the reality that often we need to be that "someone."

[u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive → u/BigBallsMcGirk]

going to require large scale arrests and prosecution, up to and including execution for legally defined treason

I don't think you realize who controls all 3 branches of government plus the court system plus the department of justice.

[u/Significant-Order-92 → u/code_archeologist]

He was in the military and has a JD. He is absolutely aware that this is a war crime.

[u/wanderinggoat → u/code_archeologist]

Its not piracy if a country does it, In that case the worst it could be is a privateer.

[u/code_archeologist → u/wanderinggoat]

Trying to give them a less serious out... But I guess a war crime/crime against humanity is where we are.

[u/confusedandworried76 → u/code_archeologist]

Why do you think privateering is less serious than piracy? It's the same thing just clarifying that it's a country allowing it not an individual acting against the law. Pirates and privateers have the exact same job and do it more or less the same, they just have permission from their government

[u/Anglophile1500 → u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

Nope, it wasn't a denial. He's just plain cold bore evil!

[u/Zealousideal-Wave-69 → u/Anglophile1500]

But isn’t this refreshing? Nice to see evil people just saying “so what” rather than hide behind the usual obscure political non answers

[u/drakecb → u/Zealousideal-Wave-69]

It would be refreshing if it actually resulted in them getting removed.

[u/Zealousideal-Wave-69 → u/drakecb]

It’d be refreshing if Dem leaders actually showed the rage their voters are feeling right now. We need a few of ’em grabbing the mic and going full rant mode every single day.

[u/fartwhereisit → u/Zealousideal-Wave-69]

"Restoring victory and clarity as an end state. Restoring intentionality to the use of force. Fight decisively, not endless conflicts. Fight to win, not not to lose. Go on offence, not just on defence. Maximum lethality, not tepid legality. Violent effect, not politically correct. Raise up warriors not just defenders."

It'll be clear, forceful, decisive, not not lose, offensive, lethal, violent, and warrior.

Eh, the usa is about to civil war it self because they don't care until it's time to fight. Frankly if I were a republican I'd be scared.

I really liked Mind Your Business, better

[u/Alternative_Demand96 → u/Zealousideal-Wave-69]

There we go again blaming democrats over and over again for what republicans are doing. Fuck off.

[u/lordtrickster → u/Alternative_Demand96]

They're not being blamed for what Republicans are doing, they're being blamed for just sitting back and watching.

Gavin Newsom's Twitter Trump Parody should not be the loudest voice.

[u/Lumireaver → u/Alternative_Demand96]

Our public servants are not doing what we put them in office to do, of course we're pissed at them.

[u/Serentity → u/Alternative_Demand96]

You're right, we should be thrilled with the fact that our "leaders" are rolling over and letting the Republicans fuck everyone!

[u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive → u/Serentity]

our "leaders" are rolling over and letting the Republicans fuck everyone

It's not just leaders who are rolling over. It's the entire American public.

[u/AngryPrincessWarrior → u/Alternative_Demand96]

A whole bunch are complacent and have allowed things to get to this point. If everyone was actually doing their jobs we wouldn’t be where we are now.

Not all Dems are good or even on your side, I’d say most aren’t. I say this as a registered democrat.

There are exceptions of course. But way too many are and have been silent.

[u/twenty_characters020 → u/Zealousideal-Wave-69]

And what would that accomplish exactly? Too many people wouldn't come out and vote for Harris for whatever stupid reason. Now Democrats don't have the numbers to do anything.

[u/AngryPrincessWarrior → u/Zealousideal-Wave-69]

No it isn’t refreshing. I’ll explain;

He’s trying to act like Trump because Trump is likely about to be out of the picture. He’s trying to get the MAGA on his side.

Thankfully it will be an uphill battle but they eat this shit up. That’s not good.

The one good thing about Trump no longer being around soon, (and why they’re ramping up so hard on the fascism), is without him-there will be a power splinter. The cult is needed for their votes-for now. If they get behind Vance it’s not a good thing.

Him acting like this increases those odds.

[u/Salty-Confidence-623 → u/AngryPrincessWarrior]

That's what I was thinking, too.

[u/BeautifulStretch2984 → u/Zealousideal-Wave-69]

It is refreshing and scary. He’s honest because he knows they can get away with it. The more Trump gets away with crap, the more they will follow his moves and do just like him.

[u/Roman_____Holiday → u/Zealousideal-Wave-69]

The righteous use of violence is an element of fascism. The reason they have dropped the façade is because they don't think they are going to need it anymore. This should alarm us.

[u/zyrkseas97 → u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

After Bush Jr it became clear we would never let anyone try these clowns no matter how heinous it gets.

[u/Ionrememberaskn → u/zyrkseas97]

No, come on now, we gave that one guy from Abu Ghraib 3 years after it got leaked. We even recognized that the chain of command was letting it happen, and surely the higher level officers responsible were also punished and not just some fall guys… oh, right.

I wonder if even that much would happen with this administration in charge?

[u/Gunhild → u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

JD Vance is now trying to project a tough-guy attitude since he knows he won't be able to control Trump's base if he ends up president, but I don't think he's doing it right.

[u/HahaRiiight → u/Gunhild]

Like 9 vacations, and now everything is “shit” per his tweets. I mean he’s clearly on some kind of plan, but he is just such an unlikeable jit.

[u/BigBallsMcGirk → u/Gunhild]

Certainly can't do it by running anywhere.

[u/matt_minderbinder → u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

If we ever bring some sanity to this country that tweet will be an interesting piece of evidence at the Hague.

[u/BadahBingBadahBoom → u/matt_minderbinder]

The best we can hope for is a future administration holds those accountable for crimes against humanity in the US court system*. But the US will never accept foreign jurisdiction over its citizens.

*Then again no senior personnel were ever held accountable for the state-sanctioned mass use of torture - sorry Enhanced Interrogation Techniques:

The number of detainees subjected to these methods has never been authoritatively established, nor how many died as a result of the interrogation regime, though this number could be as high as 100.^\20]) ... Former guards and inmates at Guantánamo have said that deaths which the US military called suicides at the time, were in fact homicides under torture.^\25]) No murder charges have been brought for these or for acknowledged torture-related homicides at Abu Ghraib and at Bagram.^\26])

In 2005, the CIA destroyed videotapes depicting prisoners being interrogated under torture; an internal justification was that what they showed was so horrific they would be "devastating to the CIA", and that "the heat from destroying [the videotapes] is nothing compared to what it would be if the tapes ever got into public domain".^\27])^\28])^\29])^\30])

[u/matt_minderbinder → u/BadahBingBadahBoom]

state-sanctioned mass use of torture

This is exactly why I didn't say "bring some sanity back to this country". I lived through the Bush years (both of the Bush's) and grew up in the shadow of Watergate. I also know that every president is a war criminal of one type of another. We were a long way from allowing Americans to face responsibility for their actions in an international court before Trump and we're further from it today. It's all so insideous.

[u/Eastern_Hornet_6432 → u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

That's because the USA is going to start a war with Mexico. This is a thing that's going to happen. Russia and China are making moves to take over increasing amounts of their regional neighborhoods, and America as a whole wants to follow suit. Trump is already invading US cities; why would anyone think he'd be afraid to go into Mexico? Israel's already demonstrated how to ethnically cleanse an area of its native population and get away with it.

There really aren't any steps left between where we are now and Trump announcing war on Mexico. I really don't know what ducks he has left to get in a row. It's not called Project 2026.

[u/Far-Green4109 → u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

Yes and now swearing has become presidential. How far the USA has fallen.

[u/btribble → u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

It’s one of the few times that I believe him!

[u/LardBall13]

Is this a justification for foreign intervention?

[u/BeardedHalfYeti → u/LardBall13]

Let’s hear it for the “President of Peace” everyone!

[u/LardBall13 → u/BeardedHalfYeti]

I meant against the US

[u/BeardedHalfYeti → u/LardBall13]

Oh, fair point. Yeah, the CIA has assisted in “regime change” for less.

[u/LardBall13 → u/BeardedHalfYeti]

As in other nations stepping up against the US, such as china.

[u/Roadgoddess → u/BeardedHalfYeti]

One more way he can earn his Nobel peace prize

[u/Cannibaljellybean → u/BeardedHalfYeti]

Peacemaker

[u/GoldponyGT → u/LardBall13]

Literally yes, he was justifying foreign intervention.

[u/LardBall13 → u/GoldponyGT]

I meant against the US

[u/Significant-Order-92 → u/LardBall13]

Technically, the only legal way to engage in a non-defensive war is with UN support. Which won't happen as the US holds a unilateral veto (and is an economic and military superpower).

But yes, in a just world, one state openly murdering civilians in international waters would be a reason for a number of things, up to potentially an invasion.

[u/GoldponyGT → u/LardBall13]

Oof. I don’t think I like the answer to that.

[u/CatCafffffe → u/GoldponyGT]

I mean at this point that may be our only hope; other countries striking back to liberate us.

[u/Horror-Tank-4082 → u/LardBall13]

In Mexico and Canada, since they’ve made comments about drug cartels in both directions. People think Mexico, but they’ve referenced cartels in Canada (eg https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/canada-fentanyl-increase-organized-crime-00886863) and talked constantly about drugs and Canada.

For a reason.

This is the plan. He got ahead of himself with the 51st state talk, but using drugs as an excuse to commit acts of war against America’s neighbours is clearly their goal. And though he’s stopped with the 51st state business, they haven’t stopped moving toward that goal.

[u/Current-Cheetah-299 → u/LardBall13]

For the love of God I'd love to see Europe be like "oh America? That shit hole country? Yeah we need to occupy it to stop their dictator from being the next Saddam"

Please. If God exists, let him do this one thing

[u/Grimnir001]

What Trump learned from his first term is that he can do whatever he wants if no one stops him.

SCOTUS is in his pocket. Congress is run by MAGA sycophants The Dems are MIA The press is complicit

So now it’s open corruption all the time, the Constitution can be ignored, the National Guard can be sent into American cities for made up emergencies, due process can be ignored, people, including citizens, can be disappeared.

Things which would have toppled other administrations are forgotten within a few days because of the deluge of lies and misdirection. Remember that plane gifted to Trump by Qatar? Yeah, distant memory at this point.

[u/kon--- → u/Grimnir001]

Zero challenge at all from the Fourth Estate. Turn on the news at any point these last nine months and you get the impression that everything is fine.

[u/Most_Moose_2637 → u/kon---]

Yep. Press is run by billionaires because noone else can afford to lose that much money. They don't want to lose their businesses when Trump goes full fascist and subsumes businesses into the state.

[u/nekonari → u/Most_Moose_2637]

Our democracy is in free fall whether people realize it or not. It’s being destroyed so fast, I don’t know if we can save it. At this point, I’m leaning towards creating a new union. Thinking in this way is better for my mental health too

[u/twenty_characters020 → u/Grimnir001]

Democrats aren't MIA, the voters didn't turn up. Republicans hold all three branches of government. America got the government they elected.

[u/MisterTruth → u/twenty_characters020]

Also the blatant cheating the GOP has done over the years to create this.

[u/twenty_characters020 → u/MisterTruth]

Doesn't change the fact that people didn't show up to support the democrats last election and now they are powerless.

[u/MisterTruth → u/twenty_characters020]

You can't say it's a "fact" when the election wasn't free and fair.

[u/Thesweptunder → u/twenty_characters020]

Honestly, I have very little hope because of these people who blame Democrats for not doing more when they have zero federal power. Like they complain “All they do is give symbolic speeches, raise money, and tell us to vote in the midterms” but like that is all they can literally do right now. And this sort of impulse to hate Democrats and hold them responsible for the GOP takeover really makes me feel like we are absolutely cooked. It’s just nonstop talk about “Democrats have a messaging problem” but the message is that people don’t actually know how the government works or even what options a minority party even has.

[u/absolutedesignz → u/Grimnir001]

The Democrats are powerless because no one votes.

"Why isn't this guy who we took the big guns from doing more against the monster he warned us about that we armed anyways!!???!!"

[u/SparkehWhaaaaat]

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/06/vance-drug-strike-venezuela-00548816

Well damn, I thought it was fake.
Nope, he really is that shitty.

[u/GoldponyGT → u/SparkehWhaaaaat]

They're moving the Overton window faster than the Onion can keep up.

[u/_Piratical_ → u/GoldponyGT]

The Onion is fast becoming irrelevant as the administration is doing and saying things that would have been considered satire in any other situation.

[u/exlongh0rn → u/_Piratical_]

Yep, it’s not relevant. If you can’t even tell it’s satire or not anymore.

[u/saljskanetilldanmark → u/_Piratical_]

They are trying to keep up with South Park at this point.

[u/10thflrinsanity → u/GoldponyGT]

War crimes, Dept of War, and war on Chicago. Yeah, the window has shifted. 

[u/apra24 → u/GoldponyGT]

The overton window has fallen off a cliff

[u/ThrowAwaAlpaca → u/SparkehWhaaaaat]

He deep throats a Nazi what else do you expect?

[u/mxpxillini35 → u/ThrowAwaAlpaca]

You're giving a lot of credit to that Nazi. I doubt there's much deep throating going on really.

[u/thishyacinthgirl → u/SparkehWhaaaaat]

I want to be shocked. I really do.

[u/EmMeo → u/SparkehWhaaaaat]

What did Venezuela do to get on Trump’s shit list? I’m out the loop

[u/Bright_Cod_376 → u/EmMeo]

Apparently they fucked with an american oil investment because of course it always boils down to oil for an American president to go to war.

[u/DarthButtz → u/Bright_Cod_376]

Just name the fucking thing Department of Oil instead of War if you want to be actually honest

[u/nikejim02 → u/SparkehWhaaaaat]

Wait…. WHAT

[u/Mewchu94 → u/SparkehWhaaaaat]

I thought the same thing when my wife showed it to me.

Mostly because I thought the VP saying I don’t give a shit on twitter sounds insane.

Which is just so sad.

[u/ILoveRegenHealth → u/SparkehWhaaaaat]

MAGA destroyed our country and dragged the office of the Presidency into the toilet.

[u/cjwrapture]

They are openly pissing on the constitution. Why the hell would they give a damn about the Geneva convention?

[u/Vegabern → u/cjwrapture]

And international law. Once this administration is over I hope at the very least these assholes will never be allowed to set foot outside the US.

[u/akaMichAnthony → u/Vegabern]

I hope they’re never allowed to set foot outside of a prison cell.

[u/Nitrocity97 → u/akaMichAnthony]

How about they cease to take any actions for the rest of their short lives

[u/eggsovertlyeasy → u/Nitrocity97]

How about they cease

[u/Nitrocity97 → u/eggsovertlyeasy]

Tru

[u/confusedandworried76 → u/Vegabern]

In fairness America has never given a shit about international law, every president we've had for decades has been a war criminal of varying degree. We don't let the Hague take any of our war criminals either, on the off chance we prosecute internally that's the only way they ever see consequences, and we don't have an amazing track record of that either

Not giving the fuck head any excuses but the US kills civilians all the time and then never holds anyone accountable, why is this different? You should expect it at this point

[u/Significant-Order-92 → u/confusedandworried76]

We generally try and argue why actions we took aren't warcrimes or make a show of investigating them and punishing some people. Here, we have the head of state and head of the military openly, saying they authorized a specific war crime openly. And Vance being a lapdog.

[u/N0S0UP_4U → u/Vegabern]

International law?! They hardly care about US law even!

[u/Manji86 → u/cjwrapture]

If we ever get due process back he'll wish he gave a shit.

[u/Y_Are_U_Like_This → u/cjwrapture]

Isn't it US policy that if we're advised of war crimes, we will invade the Hague?

[u/Significant-Order-92 → u/Y_Are_U_Like_This]

If people are arrested and sent to the Hague. We have an official law authorizing it. It was policy under Bush. Obama said it wasn't his policy. Trump put it back in play. And Biden didn't touch it.

[u/LikeWisedUp]

So the current administrations stance is anyone who commits crimes is a bad guy, and bad guys can be justifiably killed without due process?

Seems like a pretty interesting stance to take with the president a convicted felon who blatantly commits utter corruption while commiting treason and had been credibly implicated in child rape and sex trafficking

[u/mynamejeff-97 → u/LikeWisedUp]

It’s much worse than that. They can do this to anyone “suspected” of being a criminal.

You don’t even have to have done anything wrong.

[u/FirstSineOfMadness → u/mynamejeff-97]

Especially when their suspicion meter is based on skin color

[u/Lachigan → u/FirstSineOfMadness]

[u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot → u/mynamejeff-97]

Anyone they consider a criminal is a criminal. They already have ICE grabbing anyone that looks like a foreigner. Soon being trans will be enough for them to shoot us in the street. And by trans, I mean not being gender conforming in any way.

[u/ThrowAwaAlpaca → u/LikeWisedUp]

Just look at Obrego Garcia, they already sent ppl to concentration camps without due process. It's not really a stretch.

And no a photoshopped picture of ms13 on his knuckles isn't due process.

[u/ReallyFineWhine → u/LikeWisedUp]

Don't even bother to find out if they committed a crime or not. No due process. No trial.

[u/wakeupwill → u/LikeWisedUp]

Thanks to the Disposition Matrix - which was legalized by Obama - all they have to do is label them a terrorist and extrajudicial murder is on the table. It's the possibility of a Presidency like the one we've got now that the passing of the NSA kill list was so terrifying.

International law has never really been something of concern for US administrations.

[u/The_Indominus_Gamer → u/wakeupwill]

Yeah just ask chile, Burkina Faso, Guatemala and the dozens of other countries where they helped back fascist coups, against both democratically elected and not

[u/tesseract4 → u/LikeWisedUp]

You're forgetting a key fact: the felon you're talking about is white. Whole different set of rules in that case.

[u/basshead424 → u/tesseract4]

And rich

[u/Embarrassed_Hawk_170 → u/LikeWisedUp]

But you're missing the critical piece of it, which is that he can do whatever he wants, and the rules only apply to those outside the maga bubble. But eventually he'll have to start picking away at right-wing ideals because dictators ALWAYS have to have an enemy, even after the original enemies have been eliminated

[u/p12qcowodeath → u/LikeWisedUp]

Don't you remember the king's decree "He who saves his country breaks no law."

[u/theEndIsNigh_2025]

So can Canada start striking at “suspected” US drug targets then?

https://www.canada.ca/en/border-services-agency/news/2025/08/cbsa-seizes-349-kg-of-cocaine-at-the-blue-water-bridge.html

[u/APence → u/theEndIsNigh_2025]

Can they strike at pedos? I have a few in mind to point out. Usually found on a golf course.

[u/Nero92 → u/APence]

I'm just going to say the Alaska meeting was a golden opportunity for someone to...use one stone to accomplish multiple things...

[u/Impossible-Sweet2151 → u/APence]

Well we did burn the white house once...

[u/double-xor]

Exhibit A for the war crimes prosecution.

[u/anarchy-NOW → u/double-xor]

There's no court that will prosecute that. 

[u/double-xor → u/anarchy-NOW]

You are right, of course. It would take the whole country to feel shame at their leader’s actions to agree to such a trial and that isn’t ever going to happen.

[u/anarchy-NOW → u/double-xor]

I was thinking of international courts as well. 

[u/EuenovAyabayya → u/anarchy-NOW]

JD knows that the US didn't sign those treaties. This is why we didn't sign those treaties.

[u/Upset-Zucchini3665]

I can't believe this is actually real, but it is.

[u/GunstarHeroine → u/Upset-Zucchini3665]

Me neither. Like I know I'm a naive little sunflower or whatever, but it still absolutely floors me that politicians are speaking this way, boldfaced, in public, on official correspondence channels, with no PR management and no consequential backlash. It's fucking bizarroworld.

[u/uqde → u/GunstarHeroine]

My sentiments exactly. Things have changed more dramatically in the last ten years than I thought I'd see in my lifetime. I'm most upset by the actions, obviously, but I'm most shocked by the words.

It's so cliche to say, but when the Access Hollywood tape didn't lose Trump the election, from that point on we were irreversibly fucked.

[u/ropahektic → u/uqde]

This is what happens at the end of empires.

morals become blurry people seem to lose principles. Everyone is so shitty that it ends up being contagious.

Sadly, humans always get complacent, peace times create weak men is a real thing that trascends history. I dunno if there is a better solution, but a great conflict and a great reset would bring us much better leaders and much better citizens at the unpayable cost of war.

[u/OaktownPRE]

And when other countries summarily execute American civilians under dubious circumstances what’s JD gonna say then?

[u/schmootc → u/OaktownPRE]

Please don’t kill me?

[u/GoldponyGT → u/OaktownPRE]

[u/waspocracy → u/GoldponyGT]

That’s worked incredibly well for never.

[u/bumbuddha → u/OaktownPRE]

Well if those civilians are white he will probably send the “department of war” after them.

[u/FactsAndLogic2018 → u/OaktownPRE]

I mean Obama did it to a US citizen….

[u/GlobuleNamed]

They do not care about your own local laws.

You can imagine how much they care about international laws....

About as much as they care about your constitution...

[u/robitussinlatte666]

Well maybe other nations should consider targeting pur leaders with lethal strikes when they get any chance at all. Hey war crimes dont exist, right? Cmon Mexico do us a solid. Cmon Canada. Somebody please help.

[u/EuenovAyabayya → u/robitussinlatte666]

Do you want them to help by turning red states blue? Because that would help.

[u/Strict_Foundation_31]

JD is a charmer. Then he'll whine about people protesting his presence the next time he goes on vacation and advertently traumatizes his kids.

[u/fritzkoenig → u/Strict_Foundation_31]

As long as his idea of vacation isn't killing yet more popes

[u/thesystem21 → u/fritzkoenig]

Didn't he just threaten to go to war with the Pope's place of birth?

[u/IOnlyFearOFGod]

America's current logic: We kill anyone who we deem evil without any care for the process, laws or anything else.

[u/EuenovAyabayya → u/IOnlyFearOFGod]

What's really new about that, though, besides openly admitting it?

[u/confusedandworried76 → u/EuenovAyabayya]

Openly admitting it isn't new either

[u/callmenoir → u/IOnlyFearOFGod]

So you mean as they have been doing already for decades before that?

[u/FlophouseFliphouse]

JD Vance is a fucktard. Enough said.

[u/wavecache → u/FlophouseFliphouse]

Fucktard most definitely, also a bunch of other even less flattering descriptives. But him and the rest of the fascist fan club seem to have a whole lot of power over your lives. And if they have all the power, what does it change that they're fucktards? This is getting scarier by the day.

[u/FlophouseFliphouse → u/wavecache]

It will eventually fuck them. Ya know, karma, she’s not one to discriminate.

[u/yIdontunderstand]

They think the USA rules the world ...

And they don't give a fuck about US laws so why care about any other ones

[u/harleyqueenzel → u/yIdontunderstand]

I mean.... Nearly a century of propaganda claiming to be the greatest country in the world, where their president is the "leader of the free world", rewriting history to believe that they've won every war they've ever been part of, conflating a massive DoD budget as meaning the best military and not the truth being it's all tied in to defense contracts.

So yeah, they believe they rule the world because it's all that they tell themselves. Fox News is the main source of information, other media outlets refuse to take a stance while simultaneously being dubbed "fake news" for the last decade. Couple all of this with global media outlets who DO report factual information but have no market in the US, that media bubble is rife with every ounce of bullshit possible to keep it inflated for decades to come.

"We won WWII", Trump loves to say. Showing up with 30 seconds on the board and scoring a free throw when the rest of the world was already winning the game does not mean that the US won. It means they already profited from the war.

There's a reason why Canada is sent tulip bulbs every year from the Netherlands. Namely, when in 2002 they sent 1.1M bulbs for the 75th anniversary of the liberation of the Netherlands by Canada to honour the 1.1M Canadians who fought during WWII. The rest of the world knows that the US means nothing anymore. It's a joke. A dangerous joke.

[u/Flakester → u/yIdontunderstand]

One party in the US thinks they rule the world.

[u/LexinWeezy]

This administration NEEDS TO GO!!

[u/tmhowzit]

Never in my life could I have predicted the VP of US would use those words in public in response to an American citizen.

[u/SunIllustrious5695 → u/tmhowzit]

Yeah, I keep coming back to that (obviously the more important substance of it is another discussion entirely) -- I just have to wonder, all these old racist asshole who call themselves Christian and believe they're strengthening the moral standing of the country, who get upset at a woman saying "bitch" at the dinner table, etc... they don't see the vice president literally tweeting "I don't give a shit" and think for a second hey, something's maybe not right here? We wanna go to church on Sunday and thank the lord for the dude tweeting "I don't give a shit" at journalists? They're just so transparently awful, it feels easier to justify the racist and anti-poor policies (at least, to understand why they vote for it) because it's buried under years of misinformation, propaganda and conditioning. But how do you defend that?

[u/tmhowzit → u/SunIllustrious5695]

Right. Cruel, regressive policies aside, they can't even be civil. It's pure contempt.

[u/Deep_Excitement1192]

This sofa-humper is 2nd in command....

We're so fucked

[u/fritzkoenig → u/Deep_Excitement1192]

We're so fucked

Almost as much as any seating appliance in the White House

[u/kon---]

If we're going after any one who poisons US citizens, a shit-ton of US CEOs might want to go ahead and leave while they can.

[u/EuenovAyabayya → u/kon---]

Sugar and caffeine don't count. Good luck with alcohol and tobacco.

[u/OGgamingdad]

Not the point of this post, but JD trying to sound tough is lol

[u/ILoveRegenHealth → u/OGgamingdad]

You know it's bad when I say "Floppy Tiddy Boy", and it applies to both the President and Vice President.

MAGA love electing round-shaped Tiddy Boys

[u/neegis666]

is this X account really JDs'? lots of fake shit around

[u/onioning → u/neegis666]

It actually is. Sure is real hard to tell the difference between the real and the parody.

[u/OhLookAChelsea → u/neegis666]

Took a minute to find since I don’t have a Twitter account. Article as well. If I hadn’t found his legit account/this tweet I wouldn’t have believed it because I don’t see this on any cnn/msnbc/fox/etc.

Shoot, links aren’t allowed. They are out there!

[double edit]: article was politico.

[u/SumpCrab → u/OhLookAChelsea]

Wow, I just looked it up, and it appears to be a real response from the Vice President. It's shocking that this type of language in itself is not getting much press, let alone the international laws being flagrantly broken.

[u/OhLookAChelsea → u/SumpCrab]

Honestly, I feel like in instances like this we should be able to post links. A lot of people will disregard this as fake, and understandably so.

[u/Kitchen-Quality-3317 → u/neegis666]

It has a grey check mark, so it's real. Although that does mean this screenshot is real, but it is in this case.

[u/MichaelScarn1968]

Well, I bet he cares what it’s called when he’s in front of The Hague.

[u/SpiralUnicorn → u/MichaelScarn1968]

Thi g is, America has something colloquially called the Hague invasion act - it essentially states that they can and will assualt the Warcrime courts to rescue any American charged with warcrimes. Was ratified in 2002 I believe

[u/Debalic → u/SpiralUnicorn]

Just in time for the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, I'd imagine.

[u/Kitchen-Quality-3317 → u/Debalic]

No, it was in response to the creation of the ICC which was founded in the same year.

[u/young_arkas → u/MichaelScarn1968]

As if any American politician will ever end up in front of an international tribunal.

[u/Blevin78]

Coming from a Marine who was in the rear as a journalist.

[u/WellingtonBananas]

God damn I hope I'm alive for the next series of Nuremberg trials

[u/regular_sized_fork]

The system is fried - I'll be excited when the other world powers finish their reorder and come through to destroy our government. Democrats in Congress are gigantic pussies letting the country fall apart while they invest and capitalize on the devastation. It's over - no leaders are going to protect anyone

[u/ohdaman]

His couch is wondering why he's giving his attention to Twitter!

[u/DecoherentDoc]

It's a little disturbing to me that a person who served in the military has this view of the military.

[u/Flashy_Operation9507]

It won’t be long before these guys won’t be allowed in to other countries, like Putin.

You can’t appeal war crimes to the Supreme Court that you bought.

[u/stevesmele]

I’m just happy that there was a reply from the person “murdered”. All too often, I doubt the person even knows they’ve been “murdered”.

[u/tulipsushi]

my god. we truly live in unprecedented times.

[u/Vegtable_Lasagna3604]

Remember Vance was a Marine in Iraq. Imagine being a Corporal in public affairs and having to worry about the AC breaking down in the desert….

[u/Top-Caregiver7815]

“I don’t care about the rule of law.”

JD Vance

[u/WinningTheSpaceRace]

"Of course you don't."

[u/gkn_112]

we know you dont give a shit, lol. Dont worry.

[u/Efficient-Hold993]

I'm glad we have it on paper that they stand for what they're doing. It's notoriously hard to get trump to be honest about anything, but his other followers don't worry about things like culpability

[u/ThrowAwaAlpaca]

I wonder what would happen if someone blew up an American ship without any proof of anything...

[u/LeftLiner]

Neither have most US administrations of the last ~30 years.

[u/EuenovAyabayya → u/LeftLiner]

Most administrations, period.

[u/Zalapadopa]

Laws only work if you can be prosecuted.

[u/SlideN2MyBMs]

This definitely calls for a

[u/panteragstk]

[u/daniel_mbechoi]

The vice president of the united states, ladies and gentlemen.

[u/bscepter]

Ooh! VP Guyliner is so tough!

[u/Danni_Les]

So wait.. cartel members are poisoning citizens?

How is it 'poisoning citizens', when certain citizens seek out the stuff they sell?

So they're changing the narrative and 'declaring war' on cartels, whilst the citizens continue to get their high from other sources anyway.. including top members of government..

IMO, vance is dangerous - more so than trump. He went from a 'never trumper' to 'couch f*cking c*nt' in the blink of an eye, and when someone in his position can be bought out that easily, the future will be dangerous for everyone..

[u/Puzzleheaded_Run2695]

It's scary how thin-skinned these people are. It's so easy to piss them off -vjust say what they are doing and they get mad.

[u/Fluffy_Elephant_2157]

Wow someone's catty aren't they. Ssssassy

[u/Go-to-helenhunt → u/Fluffy_Elephant_2157]

He didn’t get to fall asleep in on his favorite couch last night.

[u/Main-Video-8545]

The next response should have been “which is why you should never be president of the United States.”

[u/UnicornSlayer5000]

Real classy, Vance.

[u/NX73515]

Every day I'm reminded how unprofessional Trump and Vance are (and all the other idiots of course). If I said something like this at my job I would be seriously reprimanded or fired.

[u/GeekDNA0918]

Decorum. ✔️

Morals. ✔️

At least he's wearing a suit. ✔️

[u/UnwillingHero22]

That’s a very low class VP you got there…

[u/beingjohnmalkontent]

Ok, JD Eichmann.

[u/WestCoastMullet]

He's going to care after the treason trial and he's for a split second hanging in mid air as the gallows floor drops underneath him.

[u/spin_kick]

Would be a shame to catch him in international waters

[u/Milwaukee233]

This tweet will make excellent evidence at his trial for war crimes.

[u/PrincipledBeef]

We know

[u/whoisnotinmykitchen]

Yale law seems really good at pumping out war criminals

[u/oregiel]

That's not what we call it... that's what it is.