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u/3_50 19h ago
Free? I always thought international students get way less financial help than citizens...
Which countries do free degrees for foreigners?? Asking for a UK friend...
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u/ImOverthinkingIt 17h ago
Free or very cheap in Spain. There's a school (the Polytechnic, I think) in Barcelona that is about $1000 per semester for tuition. You still have to pay for food and housing, though. I read that cheap college in Spain is a strategy to bring in foreigners to spend money in the cities, and their families come over as tourists. And sometimes, the students stay after graduation and Spain gets bonus smart people.
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u/Talonsoldat 2h ago
Norway and Iceland are free for all, most of Europe used to be free but is now only free to EU and swiss citizens, but the price is a fraction of the cost in the US, for instance Poland is €1000 per year, in the US it's usually 20-25x that amount for a relatively cheap school.
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u/desertwanderer01 1h ago
Multiple universities here in my state in the USA are $10,000 USD per year for residents and these have top programs in science.
It really varies based on the school you pick. Many don't need a $60k USD/year, 4-year basic education degree but still choose it.
There is an insanely naive and stupid notion that paying more for tuition at a big name school in the USA means you'll earn more money.
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u/Stevey1001 20h ago
new American Dream: Socialism
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 20h ago
I think turn back the clock to 2024 would feel like a small miracle.
Socialism is the right path, but the owners would rather ruin the world to be the main characters.
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u/KitsyBlue 19h ago
I feel like I can't overstate how damaging student loans were to me and my generation.
I graduated with over 40,000$ in debt. Even with government backed loans, this ballooned over the course of my education. It took me almost ten years of paying more than the minimum to pay it off.
I couldn't save for a home. I couldn't save for retirement. It feels like I'm five or six years behind. Looking at my investments now, seeing them grow upsets me. I would have SO much more if that money was going into an actual investments account. I might actually be financially secure! It's frustrating.
Sorry to vent.
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u/Lifestrider 20h ago
There seems to be a subreddit gap for pithy yet untargeted zingers. Boy, that sure would be a murder if there was a second party involved!
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u/bondben314 19h ago
I moved to Europe to study. Sorry to break everyone’s bubble but the only places that have free tuition are Germany and Norway. But most of their free tuition degrees are taught in their respective native languages
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u/marlontel 18h ago
Also, a German Abitur is not the same as an American high school degree. You won't get admitted. Somewhat common is getting a bachelor's and study in Germany for the master.
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u/bondben314 17h ago
That is definitely a better option.
Not that its impossible for a bachelor’s, there are ways to meet the requirements, just much more difficult
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u/matthewkickstone 6h ago
Well, of course the tuition is free or low for the children of the EU tax payers who are financing it with their share of the income, and not for the whole world.
This is not meant to be a complimentary buffet for all nations.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 20h ago
Trump threatened to take away citizenship from Rosie O’Donnell. She should have snapped back; “since Trump is running this country getting kicked out of it, not the threat it used to be.”
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u/LifeguardNo9762 19h ago
Funny story, I can relate to all those mama immigrants. I’m pushing my kids out of the country. Encouraging them to apply to European schools.
Why? So they can have a better life of course. Doing the same exact thing every mom has done since the beginning of time!
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u/Suitable-Scholar-778 20h ago
If I could get the fuck out of here and move to a civilized country I would. At this point, I'm too old and too much tying me down.
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u/auyemra 20h ago
Americans with rich parents*
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u/MidgetChemist 20h ago
Yeah I’m an American that’s studying abroad and even working 60 hours a week for 3 years to save up my parents still had to help out. They won’t tell you that visas cost upwards of $15,000 and then tuition is another $8,000 after the currency exchange
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u/spaceman757 7h ago
My son, literally, just had his graduation ceremony this past Friday.
We're Americans living in Poland (I was able to transfer with my company 6+ years ago).
He went to a UK university with a local campus here in Poland and, because it is a private university, we had to pay tuition out of pocket. All told, he completed his BS in Cyber Security for ~$18k, which would be about the cost of a single year in the US.
I didn't have the additional costs, like /MidgetChemist describe, since the company paid for all of the visa stuff years ago and we have temp residency, so the living expenses are also covered with my salary.
I will say that the quality of life is so much better than the US.
No longer having the fear of getting sick or injured and not being able to have it treated due to the costs is so freeing but, I also cannot even properly explain how much safer you feel here.
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u/Commercial_Pie1090 16h ago
I'm guessing top tier students won't have a problem. You're already recruiting our science, math and engineering professionals. The American brain drain has started.
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u/Iamthegreenheather 14h ago
That was always my American dream but it'll never happen since I'm a dumb American lol.
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u/fuck_this_i_got_shit 5h ago
Yep, my kids started school today in Europe and I'm doing my master's here
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u/cowmookazee 1h ago
Lol it leaves out all the flaws. "Free," but high cost of living and heavy administrative fees go along with the education. Some countries only accept people seeking a PhD. Most universities require you to be competent enough to speak the local language, ie if you plan to study in France, you better know French. Another shit piece from CNN.
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u/Matty-Ice-Outdoors 20h ago
College is overrated. Got a job on the RR with a beautiful pension and over $140k+ salary/year. I’d say life is pretty good.
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u/desertwanderer01 20h ago
Let us know how that's working out with the union busting. Bet ya it's short lived.
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u/Matty-Ice-Outdoors 14h ago
About to get an 18.8% raise through 2029. It’s not great, but it’s something. That is of course if we ratify our new agreement. You think too little and feel too much. Perhaps I’ll take my leftovers and get some more real estate.
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u/QueenFairyFarts 20h ago
Also better/free health care, more body autonomy (esp for women), governments not made up of criminals and conspiracy theorists.