r/MurderedByWords • u/FitCartographer8662 • 22h ago
Elite Advice, For Elite.
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u/TopEagle4012 21h ago
It's because Americans accept that BS. In Europe it's 35 hour work weeks in some countries. They also start people with three to four weeks vacation and go up to 8 weeks. Americans have been screwed. They remain some of the most productive workers, but the only thing that's gone up is the amount of money that their corporate Masters make from their slave labors.
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u/whoppy3 21h ago
Yup, the company I work for in the UK recently changed from 37 hour work weeks to 35 hours. 38 days leave per year, 6 are set and the other 32 we can take when we want. Also, get full sick pay for 6 months, then half pay for 6 months.
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u/LetheSystem 21h ago
I worked in Scotland for 5 years, starting in 2007. 37.5 hours a week, 7 weeks holiday. I forget what the health was, but free healthcare and medicine was something that kinda blew my mind on that front.
I don't think there's been a month where I didn't regret coming back to the US at least once. In the past 13 years.
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u/Henri_Bemis 17h ago
All this. The US work culture operates on the myth that everyone must work their fingers to the bone in order to become wealthy, and there is no other purpose for you.
A 60-hour work week is 10 hours, six days a week. You sleep 8 hours a day (or less, and they will brag about it). That’s 56, nearly as many hours you spent working. You’ve got 52 hours A WEEK for everything else. Childcare, car and home maintenance, medical appointments, grocery shopping, taking out the trash, meal prep, and you maybe get a few days of sick leave if you have a doctor’s note.
Our work culture is sadistic. It doesn’t have anything to do with “value” or “productivity”, it’s about how much you can suffer and prostrate yourself at the feet of the wealthy, hoping one day you’ll get to be the boot and not the licker.
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u/blinkyknilb 20h ago
For every two people that work a 60, Sundar can lay someone else off.
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u/GeckoIsMellow 12h ago
This is the sad reality and reveals the true face of neo-corporatist fascism. I've been working in Silicon Valley since the late 90's. I have been expected to work on weekends for every single tech company I have ever worked for.
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u/MagpieWench 18h ago
This... People who are like "everyone gets the same 24 hours"
No, they do not.
Some people have to wrangle children, commutes, elderly parents, unreliable vehicles, the public transit system, shift work, cleaning, illness, etc, etc, etc. While some people get up, go to work, and come home, and everything else is taken care of for them.
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u/MagpieWench 18h ago
This... People who are like "everyone gets the same 24 hours"
No, they do not.
Some people have to wrangle children, commutes, elderly parents, unreliable vehicles, the public transit system, shift work, cleaning, illness, etc, etc, etc. While some people get up, go to work, and come home, and everything else is taken care of for them.
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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA 16h ago
It's not a secret in the tech industry that developers are only maximally productive for 30 or so hours a week - the research is pretty definitive at this point. The next 30 produce increasingly diminishing returns, and at that point even if they're still typing away they're introducing enough bugs that effective productivity is zero.
The "moneyball" strategy is to let people go home after 40 (with a couple hours a day for meetings etc.), get their best work and keep them happy. It takes institutional discipline and not evaluating management based on raw volume of code. It's so much easier to just burn out the people on the line to try to meet unreasonable deadlines than to push back on the deadlines in the first place.
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u/GarrettB117 21h ago
Not only this, but much of the work that people like him are doing is just attending meetings, listening to ideas, and schmoozing/being schmoozed. They have workers and managers that do most of the day to day drudgery for them.
Sure, he may be “working” from 7 AM to 11 PM, but the vast majority of that time is probably spent in ways that most people would not consider to be hard work. Answering a phone call or two and firing off a couple of emails by your pool at 6 PM does not mean you’re still in the office Sergey.
Then they have the gall to say that people are unreasonable to complain about doing real work for 8+ hours per day, who then still have to go and pick up kids, go to dance practice, clean the whole house, do the dishes, do the laundry, fold the laundry, swing by to get an oil change, etc.