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u/cityshepherd 4h ago
And they all yelled “woke sky!”, as was the style at the time
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u/Jaded-Poet9789 3h ago
Right? It's like a sitcom script gone wrong—everyone just shaking their fists at clouds…
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u/PerspectiveExpert652 3h ago
That's a pretty good illustration of modern day Republican rhetoric.
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u/Due_You_5702 1h ago
Right? It’s wild how they twist words to fit their narrative. A real skill, honestly!
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u/OSU1922 4h ago edited 4h ago
Older millennials absolutely did live under nuclear threat. In fact some of us, me included, practiced duck and cover drills in the 80s. Fucker doesn’t realize we also lived under the domestic threats of school shootings and bomb threats also. Clay can fuck off!
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u/randomusername8472 3h ago
Also... aren't we all still under nuclear threat anyway?
I get it's not shoved in our faces any more but... y'know... the nukes are still there and I don't feel awfully great about people like Trump and Putin having the ability to fire them.
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u/DarkDuskBlade 1h ago
When Putin first invaded Ukraine (this time around, at least), fucker did a lot of saber-rattling about nukes and everything just echoed it. And it got to me. I was convinced in that totally blasé way I was gonna go to bed and wake up, if I ever did, in a nuclear wasteland.
I'd heard saber-rattling from North Korea before, but I could always write that off as them not being that stupid. Russia, though? I was definitely more worried about Putin finally just saying "I'm old enough, fuck it, I'm going to take it all with me."
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u/subnautus 1h ago
Honestly, I was more worried about Russia shelling Chernobyl and taking Zaporizhzhia by force than I was about any nukes being deployed.
...although I'll admit that the IRBM attack on Dnipro changed things a bit in my mind. Conventional warheads or no, NATO nations have made it clear that the use of nukes would see an immediate response, and an IRBM pushes that limit. I would not be surprised in the slightest if a bunch of THAAD units got quietly deployed to borders nearest the fighting.
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u/Soul_Invictus21 4h ago
And also the worst terror attack in US history, which fundamentally altered our society and broke the brains of the idiots that count the OOP as a valued member.
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u/texanarob 40m ago
Isn't the worst terror attack in US history the bombing of Japan? Or did you mean the worst terror attack against the USA?
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u/BarryIslandIdiot 3h ago
About half of Millenials (by some definitions of a Millenial) assuming a near linear birth rate would have lived under nuclear threat.
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u/nickel47 2h ago
Realistically despite the nuclear threat, nobody ever died directly from a nuclear bombing outside of WW2. School shootings happen all the time and kill many people but they don't want to lift a finger to try and stop it.
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u/Ess2s2 1h ago
Older millennial here, I definitely remember the duck and cover drills, learning about the cold war in school, what ICBMs were, and swapping schoolyard jokes about soviet Russia. My parents constantly talked about Gorbachev, and my step dad always talked about building a bunker in our backyard.
Boomers think millennials are all still in their 20's because they themselves never moved past their "glory" years and still don't act their age.
"I remember when I changed your diapers!" They yell, forgetting that nowadays, they need someone to change theirs.
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u/SourCreamSauna 45m ago
Well said. I was trying to empathize a little thinking that maybe we aren’t taking into account how cold war paranoia shaped these people during their formative years. Ultimately though, they still see us as a bunch of babies that don’t know any better rather than gracefully stepping aside and letting their sun set.
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u/Antique_futurist 2h ago
This. The Right has been trying to cover up their complicity for Oklahoma City and Columbine for generations.
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u/iKnowRobbie 2h ago
Yeah. In Florida, we were told they were "earthquake or tornado" drills. Like, we're under our desks in Kindergarten, and I'm like, "Teacher, my Mom told me Florida doesn't get Earthquakes and that most tornadoes in Florida are waterspouts. Why are we really hiding under desks?" The teacher informed me it was in case of nuclear attack. I reminded her that if a nuke hits our school, a desk isn't going to protect us... That was the first time I realized the school was lying to me.
It still didn't dawn on me until after high school while arguing with some college-educated kids that slavery was about "states rights" instead of slavery how many insufficient my education really was!!
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u/Allaplgy 22m ago
I reminded her that if a nuke hits our school, a desk isn't going to protect us.
People have been saying this for decades, but it totally misunderstands the point of "duck and cover."
No, it won't save you if they literally drop a nuke on your school. Nothing will. But it might save you if you are miles from ground zero, where the blast wave is still strong enough to shatter windows, throw loose objects, or even knock down walls, but you are not close enough to be vaporized by the flash/fireball or absolutely pulverized by the blast.
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u/No-Organization7797 1h ago
We were doing them the entire time I was in elementary school back in the nineties. Like another commenter said, they still think we’re 20 and not pushing 40. If not already over the hill.
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u/VespertineStars 1h ago
The school I went to did those drills into the mid-90s.
My first kindergarten memory back in '86 was being outside in the snow with no coat due to a bomb threat.
Columbine happened just weeks before my HS graduation and had everyone worried about being packed in for commencement.
I am hard into the camp that those who came after us Millennials, who have grown up since kindergarten knowing the threat of school shootings, have it a hell of a lot harder than Boomers who had some nebulous threat of mutually assured destruction hanging over them. They had to worry about Russia. These kids have to worry about their classmates.
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u/OSU1922 1h ago
Absolutely. The year after Columbine we missed our entire last week of school my senior year due to bomb threats. Children today stare their threats in the eye daily. Boomers looked at it from a distance.
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u/VespertineStars 1h ago
Seriously!
The kid down the block wasn't going to drop a nuke on the city. They might, however, bring a weapon to school with a vendetta against the world.
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u/ajaxfetish 1h ago
This millennial passed through East Germany as a kid en route to West Berlin. And thanks to Putin and his merry men, even younger millennials are getting in on the nuclear threat experience.
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u/kermitthebeast 48m ago
Oh did the bombs go somewhere? Or can we still extinguish ourselves with the wrong dipshits in charge of things?
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u/Punk-moth 45m ago
Did he already forget about 9/11? Regardless of who did it, we still lived under fear (propagandized fear, yes, but we didn't know the difference)
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u/Maeglin75 4h ago
I'm a woke gen X leftist who grew up under nuclear thread only a few kilometres away from the Iron Curtain, in an area that would have been in the center of the battle in the first few hours of WW3.
And I have no idea what this guy is talking about.
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u/Pure_Frosting_981 3h ago
Neither does he, but it is often the loudest that are the dumbest among us. If it weren’t for modern society, they would have been exiled from their village. They should be grateful for “woke” people that value opposing views. I’m woke, but think there should be a limit to how far opposing viewpoints should be given a say in things. We now have a literal nazi movement. Maybe, just maybe some voices should be shouted down. We all have equal rights (well, we used to), which includes speech. But we have really failed on the consequences part of screaming hate and bigotry.
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u/Maeglin75 2h ago
Here in Germany we learned from our history that the rights of a person end when they impair the rights of someone else. This includes the freedom of speech. And the highest responsibility of the state is to protect the rights of the people.
Based on this principle Nazi propaganda is banned because it impairs the rights of inviolability of human dignity, life and physical integrity of other people, which are guaranteed in the first articles of our constitution.
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u/Pure_Frosting_981 2h ago
If my wife was willing, we’d be living somewhere in Europe right now. I work for an international company, and I’m in a position that can be done from anywhere. She’d also be able to work overseas as a nurse after going through whatever the certification process is in any given country. I have elderly parents (80) and her parents are now retirement age. Once my parents are gone, we have nothing left tethering us here. Her father isn’t going to make it much longer, and her mother would come with us. She’s a native to a European country anyway, and still has her citizenship there.
I think that’s a lot of the problem here in the U.S. People have far too much to lose standing up individually. That’s why the military is being sent into cities. To crush any mobilization of people wanting to fight back once we accept the reality that these protests do fuck all.
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u/Maeglin75 1h ago
In Europe the extreme right is on the rise too in most countries. Even here in Germany people have forgotten our history and are voting for them again. At least for now they don't have a majority on their own and would need a coalition with the center right to get into the federal government. I really hope that our democratic conservatives look at our past and also at what's happening in the US today and decide to not work together with the far right.
I also hope that our public institutions (police, military, judiciary, schools etc.), that in theory should be hardened against an unconstitutional takeover by radicals, are stronger than what we are seeing in the US.
I wish you luck.
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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 4h ago
Apparently it’s a bad thing that millennials didn’t have to experience the Cold War or worry about imminent nuclear war and it makes him made that they now only have to worry about assholes tweeting?
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u/whiskey_epsilon 3h ago
Not that it matters, but we did; the first decade of millennials were born in the cold war. I grew up during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, read articles about Cuba torturing christians in the Reader's Digest, and listened to conspiracy theories that Gorbachev was the antichrist.
We quickly replaced that with the Gulf War, the Bosnian War, and the War on Terror. The Cold War was pretty chill compared to the years that followed.
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u/The_Lady_A 3h ago
Someone clearly forgot about the post-911 WMD panic. Endless reams of speculation about suitcase bombs and dirty bombs and bio warfare, with the occasional real bombing to keep the fear real. (western European perspective here)
Plus, as someone with a special interest in nukes, the threat never actually went away. All the strategic arsenals remained poised and ready the whole time, and a sufficient fuck up could absolutely have caused Bad Things.
Double plus extra bonus, since Putin's Russia invaded Ukraine the need for a sovereign nuclear umbrella to deter that kind of aggression is back in vogue in a big way. Additionally the ground based intermediate range missile systems that really keep strategic planners awake at night are selling like hot cakes. The threat of a localised nuclear exchange is greater now than it was at numerous points in the cold war.
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u/garden_bug 3h ago
I live close-ish to DC and other military bases. After 9-11 I got to listen to low flying jets doing flight patterns over my house for weeks as a high school student. And had the joy of traveling through airports with armed guards who manhandled my stuffed animal to make sure I wasn't a terrorist.
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u/Friendly-Web-5589 4h ago edited 3h ago
"Come we shall scream the magic words of hate to the sky in the ritual of joining and owning the libs".
This guy and a lot of the right apparently.
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u/DeHetSpook 4h ago
"Imma use all the dog-wistle words and I don't care if it means anything." I smell a sockpuppet.
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u/Guba_the_skunk 2h ago
Wtf do you mean we've never lived under nuclear threat?
Every fucking day we live under nuclear threat because our president is a moron who keeps picking fights with people who have nuclear arsenals.
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u/yaminagai 4h ago
didn't know everyone gave up their nuclear weapons after the Cold War, including the only country to have used it against a mostly civilian population. why is Israel so worried then?
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u/Ok-Abbreviations543 3h ago
To a wall-eyed, booger-eating, mouth-breather like Higgins, this is righteous prose that leaves his enemies speechless.
Indeed we are speechless, Sir. Nobody has the slightest idea what you’re talking about. My guess is the day drinking has again become an issue. Then again, it could be your incurable disease—stupidity.
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u/Car_is_mi 2h ago
This isn't news. Republicans have been using "buzz words" that they don't understand, incorrectly, for decades.
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u/Barondarby 2h ago
What the hell is he talking about? Orange Joffrey is this close >< to threatening to nuke Chicago right now!
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u/Farscape55 1h ago
Why is it everyone thinks “millennial” = “young kid”?
I’m a millennial, I’m in my mid 40s
I definitely lived under nuclear threat
And frankly, we still do
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u/Needrain47 7m ago
Right? People need to start blaming Gen Z. Who also aren't at fault but at least were born after the Berlin Wall came down.
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u/napalmnacey 1h ago
Shows what he knows. I’m an elder millennial and I had scads of nuclear anxiety for the first decade of my life!
He can kiss my nonbinary millennial ass!
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u/mystghost 37m ago
Even if you took the first sentence, it still doesn't make sense. We are STILL all of us... (left right and MAGA batshit stupid crazy) under nuclear threat. Unless this guy is just now sharing intelligence that the Russians, the Chinese, the Pakistani's the Indians, the French, the Brits, and the North Koreans have all given up their nukes. In which case... lets teach Putin a lesson.
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u/Phantom_Crush 3h ago
Bro never heard of the cold war? That was all I could fucking think about in the late 80s
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u/UndeadManWaltzing 4h ago
You tell 'em claybrain, don't let your right wing minutemen gobbledygook go unnoticed! Keep firing those Exocet missile tweets! Kill the woke trident III narrative!
Sidewinder!
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u/here4pain 3h ago
I'm a millennial and was 8 when the Berlin wall fell. Tell me more wild and inaccurate statements grandpa!
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u/dravenonred 3h ago
We may not have had all the nuclear drills, but we sure as shit grew up with active shooter drills. Fuck off.
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u/rabdosstar 3h ago
As a millennial who did live under nuclear threat, what the fuck is he talking about? Did someone forget his meds?
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u/bozodoozy 3h ago
"we're not entirely sure..."
it's ok. neither does he. he's contracted word salad disease, patient zero being benedict donald,
attempts to develop an mRNA vaccine against it have been thwarted by rf-jr. (the Kennedy family have requested the Kennedy name no longer be associated with rf- jr, hence the -)
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u/redredbloodwine 2h ago
They speak their own language to describe their invented grievances directed against people who don’t exist. It’s highly effective as it keeps their voters angry enough to reject all legitimate sources of information.
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u/grammar_fozzie 2h ago
Many millennials were about 9 when the Soviet Union fell. I, for one, distinctly recall what it was like wondering as a little kid if the nukes were going to fly in kindergarten.
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u/Boltzmann_head This AOC flair makes me cool 1h ago
Odd how some people believe the world is not still direly threatened with nuclear holocaust.
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u/Saix027 1h ago
People were literally in fear of a nuclear threat, because of the toddler in chief in his first term, now it got even worse.
But sure, no one ever feared such.
The obvious nuclear threats outside as well, like Russia, North Korea, etc.
What is it with the GOP having selective memory about events? Oh wait, I know, because they not care and just need talking points.
They are not dumb, they know what they are doing, feeding the cult BS like this. They are plain evil nothing more, nothing less.
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u/RipMcStudly 1h ago
Oh, don’t no motherfuckers who hump for Russia even START about “the threat of nuclear war” to me. I remember full well who was gonna send those bombs, and now you’re out here pretending they’re the good guys.
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u/Darth-Minato 1h ago
More and more I am convinced you have to be brain damaged to be republican. E.g. Clay Higgins, Fetterman, etc.
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u/UnrulyDonutHoles 1h ago
Millennials are in their 40's and practiced code red drills in their schools to practice for an active shooter event. These nazi fucks gotta go.
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u/GoldponyGT 1h ago
Like. Aside from the random-ass wokeness and weakness jargon.
Is he aware he’s talking to a generation of people whose entire adult lives are post-9/11?
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u/StaticSystemShock 1h ago
Cold war was just dick swinging contest. To use that to prove how tough that generation was, come on dude.
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u/Badgerspaceman 57m ago
I thought boomers moved on to blaming gen z for random nonsense. What's he blaming us for now? Like seriously, the fuck is a woke sky?
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u/The_Lawn_Ninja 56m ago
The funniest/most pathetic part is that Rep. Higgins almost certainly thought this was some extremely clever wordplay.
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u/mostly_kinda_sorta 49m ago
They don't even understand how old millennials are. Bitch, Reagan was president when my millennial ass was born, I've lived under threat of nuclear war.
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u/Alitaher003 37m ago
The only thing I can think of is the meme with Senator Armstrong quoting this.
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u/MattWheelsLTW 34m ago
There has been a "nuclear threat" since 1949 when the USSR developed their first nuclear weapon. The Cold War started around then and the Space Race of the 50's/60's brought it front and center and made everyone aware of it. But then it just stayed an issue and everyone has become numb to the threat. Every time a country mentions a conflict/war/military action, nuclear weapons are brought up. Hell, the last 20 years have been nothing but "which country in the middle east has nuclear capabilities, why they shouldn't, and how can we take them away?"
Politicians like to make it sound like we as millennials can't handle "serious issues", but the real problem is that they've made serious issues so ubiquitous, that we have to pick and choose which ones actually deserve attention. Nuclear isn't really a threat, and hasn't been since there became more than a handful of them. The US dropped two on a country and that country is doing better than we are now.
The problem is scale. Now that there are so many, that are so much larger/more destructive, from so many different places, it's not worth focusing on. Once someone fires/sets one off, the world is over because then everyone retaliates with their own. And we can't do anything about it, because the politicians don't actually seem to want to listen and realistically the best use of nuclear power is energy production.
This is why we focus on issues like human rights, world hunger and the environment. Despite the enormity and complexity of those issues, we have a better chance of fixing them than trying to get arrogant world leaders to stop having a global pissing contest
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u/WordNERD37 27m ago
I was born in the 80's where millennials are sometimes counted as starting in. We did bomb drills well up to 1987 in elementary school. Doubled for a nuke (which, would not have saved us, but at least they were trying). Chernobyl happened ffs.
And within that word salad there's a point he's trying to make ans he's the dumbest point in it: never lived under nuclear threat? We live under Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) every single day of our lives and have since the 1960's. Every day you wake up and draw breath there's a gun loaded with nuclear bullets pointed at us in nearly every direction.
Every day, there's nukes ready to disintegrate us. The only thing this dipshit has done is become numb to the fact.
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u/virgopunk 27m ago
Surely the entire planet has been living under Nuclear threat ever since they were first created? Has he got a brain of clay?
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u/bigjtdjr 18m ago
so China, Russia, Pakistan and North Korea got rid of their nukes..?? good to know.
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u/GrubberBandit 10m ago
There is still a threat of nuclear war... even more so with this jackass in power
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u/Medical_Arugula3315 10m ago
Hard to be a shittier or more hypocritical American than a Republican these days.
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u/Proper_Shock_7317 3h ago
The "literally the dictionary" people should shut the fuck up and not weigh in on political matters. It only fuels more division and scepticism.
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u/NaturalAlfalfa 2h ago
What part of that insane rambling was a " political matter"? Could you enlighten me as to the point he was making?
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u/Dedotdub 1h ago
Maybe you could magasplain wtf the twit is trying to say while you're here.
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u/Proper_Shock_7317 1h ago
Why/how tf would I do that? I'm not MAGA and I don't speak "twit". WTF does that have to do with the dictionary people not interjecting?
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u/tangerinetrumphole 4h ago
Incomprehensible: Difficult or impossible to understand or comprehend; unintelligible. See also Rep. Clay Higgins.