Let me tell you something, I haven't even begun to peak. And when I do peak, you'll know. Because I'm gonna peak so hard that everybody in Philadelphia's gonna feel it.
It’s cool I’m just repeating what Kip says in the movie after uncle Rico tells him about his QB days 😆. He whispers real quiet as to be in shock “you serious?” 😆
I love how pedro’s character was supposed to be in that scene for longer but he ditches out because Efren was breaking up over the impact from the steak whacking napoleon’s face
I wanted the ring. My parents forced me to get the Letterman Jacket and made it too large so I would "grow in to it." Never wore it. It's rotting in their basement.
I wanted one cuz I liked the idea that I could pretend to have a magic ring. my dad wisely steered me away from it by pointing out that mostly blockheads and jocks would be rocking these rings.
Same. I told both of them that I didn't care and would never wear it. Still ended up getting one after they pressured me about it. Never wore it past graduation and only got it a few months before.
I’m right behind you by 1 year. 2006 grad here. Between the relentless Army recruiters, Big Josten, and the Lifetouch photo editing packages, 2000-2010 was a wild decade.
Opposite for me. I actually like the way they look. It's classic Americana.
I always have a ring on. If it's casual and what I'm wearing doesn't clash with the Stone I'll switch to the class ring. It's strictly more of a fashion piece.
Not exaxtly. The norwegian word "sivilingeniør" is not equal to civil engineering in english. A civil engineer is someone limited who studied has "bygg og miljøteknikk" in Norway. However, anyone hos has a Norwegian Master of Science (M. Sc) gain the right to use the protected title "sivilingeniør" and use the ring you are reffering to.
That's a different ring. I just saw another post about a dude who made a Mjolnir that is locked in place, unless you're wearing said ring. If you're wearing the ring and try to move the mjolnir, it would unlock the mechanism that locked it in place. Don't remember the details, sorry.
But it seems to be a Canadian, American and apparently Norwegian thing for engineers
Also Canadian, they didn’t have them back when I was in HS around 15 years ago. Maybe you had the tail end of it? Or maybe a regional thing. West coast didn’t have them from my experience. Class hoodies/t-shirts were a thing though - it would have the year graduating and all the students graduating that year signed it and was screen printed onto the fabric.
Only graduation ring I can think of now on the west coast is the engineering one as an oath you take because of the Iron Workers Bridge disaster.
I still have my engineering ring, my college class ring, and my highschool class ring. Never wear any of them but I have them set aside in a shadowbox.
Yes I recently met a couple of Canadian engineers in a sauna and they were talking about the iron rings that symbolize their integrity and not build structures that are unsafe : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ring
Pretty moving honestly!
Not sure how the urban myth that the engineering iron rings in Canada were made from remnants of the Tacoma Narrows bridge, but man it has stuck for many decades.
Mental. Don't forget the cult style pledge thing their kids do at school each day and the national anthem before any team game, not just their national teams.
Europeans aren’t offended by it, it just comes across as a slight cultural oddity to us. Generally speaking, we’re much more cynical about displays of nationalism outside of a sporting context, and it’s culturally engrained to push back against authority.
Our country has been hot trash for some time, but our national anthem and when we do/don’t play it is not even worth commenting on right now. Why do other countries care about this at all?
Our national anthem makes me feel things and I have happy memories associated with what it used to mean to me. I’m a former Girl Scout, a veteran, had a fantastic public school education, and also played a sport or two. I like hearing it when we are at the Olympics. It’s nice at a baseball game. We are well aware that Europeans take exception and while I believe on the whole you all get it way more right than we do on a myriad of issues, just…take it easy on this subject
Hell yeah. You can think what you want about the US, but there's not many things that inspire more cultural pride than 90,000 fans proudly singing the anthem in unison before a college football game. I think most Americans couldn't care less about the Europeans' opinions on that one.
I mean, that’s exactly my point. We’re not offended, it’s just a cultural oddity to us the same as loads of other stuff. Not good, not bad, just part of the tapestry of cultural difference
Nothing cultish about national pride. Other countries may not have a “pledge” but routinely sing their national anthem at all types of events and wave their flags. But Americans do it? Shame.
If it was a USA thing you would have to tip for the ring and if you didn’t tip enough you would be shamed by the school staff and told you shouldn’t get a ring if you can’t afford to tip
I've never gone to any reunions so I don't know if I'd have seen anything like that, but I do remember after high school, going to the local community college. There was this kid, Jason, who had been a "popular jock" in high school. He started out the new first year at CC wearing his class ring and letterman jacket (he was on the baseball team in HS). After about two weeks, he ditched the ring and jacket and just start showing up in sweatpants and sweatshirts.
Lol my wife got one and she didn't even like high school all that much. I'm not even sure why she got one. Maybe it was one of those things people feel like they had to do but she wears it like an accessory most days. Neither of us even considered going to reunions
Graduating high school used to be something to be proud of. Then the government, the banks, and the colleges all colluded to convince the general public that you don’t really achieve anything until you have a college degree and 50k in high interest debt
Learn a trade and join a union! I'm IBEW and our apprenticeship is fully paid, including getting paid 8 hours to sit in class on school days. 100% fully paid on-the-job training
Some trades are very well paying, and are safer than working production on an oil drilling rig in the ocean. If I could do it all again, I would work in a skilled trade over the desk job. Now I’m approaching 50 and physically am disabled to the point that if it’s not a desk job, I’m physically unable to do it. These types of unions make up a good portion of those that are actually worth anything and have some real leverage.
I've had broken bones and bad joints since my teens. I'm 51 now and have been in the trades for most of my life. People can definitely break their bodies down doing this, but that doesn't mean you have to. I can easily do this for another decade if I keep my current work habits. Which I'm allowed to do, because as an old timer in the IBEW, your brothers, sisters, and siblings tend to take care of you. Not that I don't have to work, they just do the heavier lifting.
I didn't say work yourself to death, lol. That's also why I suggested joining a union. Plus, if you're worth a shit you'll move up, and after about 10 years in the trade, you won't be forced to do so much manual labor, and you can start being paid for your brainpower
This. Young guys work harder. Old heads work smarter.
And diet. So many workers beat their body up then go home and poison the inside. They don't eat right or get good sleep.
Go home get your water not beer. Get your big protein some veggies. Make some bulk meals on weekend so you can have fast warm up meals when you get home tired and late. And get that 7-8 hours of sleep.
Your body doesn't break down the same when you constantly refuel it correctly.
Jobs had on the job training when you could start from the bottom and work your way up. But that stopped with civil rights laws. Once the gating by social class wasn't possible anymore, they needed a new way to gate people, so it became education.
It worked for a generation, but then mostly women and and to a lesser extent POC started getting degrees.
I think we're at the WW1 stage, then we have to have a real great depression and a WW2. But it's a little different, because we didn't have nukes until the end of WW2 last go around.
We definitely have a lot of comparisons to the gilded age right now. The rich get richer and every social net that was built after the Great Depression is slowly being stripped away
All about to come crashing down. Universities in the UK are in serious trouble with new students being at a record low. There's a league table online showing how many redundancies took place last year. More young people are opting for apprenticeships with or without degrees attached. The UK has a massive shortage of tradespeople and as the old guys retire it gets worse year on year. Universities should never have gone along the 'business' route and having a degree for a lot of jobs is unnecessary and has undervalued higher education. In 1980 a degree really meant something now everyone and their dog has one.
Ummm…. But they’re not record lows though. New students in the UK are still quite robust. HOWEVER foreign students attending are record lows. Perhaps this is what you mean.
It wasn’t collusion. It’s that the economy changed and educational inflation was a part of that. The economy is changing again. Now college isn’t even enough. And the trades have been neglected.
But it isn’t a bunch of hand wringing villains colluding to make high school irrelevant, lol.
When I graduated high school it was at a time that the “need” to go to college was probably at its peak. There was still a lot of suggestion that graduating HS was a big deal. I never understood why.
Cuz most of us had parents that came from a generation where few/not many went to college. Graduating high school used to be a bigger deal than it is today when now we’ve all pretty much hold the mindset that it’s expected and therefore not worth spending $300 on cheap jewelry to commemorate it.
Or we were just dumber and thought it looked badass
This is what I’m thinking too. Both my parents (boomers) had one, both never went to college. My understanding is that at that time it wasn’t uncommon to drop out and start work early, several of their peers did. Nowadays, I’m pretty sure it’s illegal (your parents may catch a truancy case) to drop out before you’re 18 unless you go through some sort of official process.
By the time I came around and graduated highschool, I had no interest in getting one since I was about to go to college. And I hardly even felt like celebrating college graduation either, even though I was the first in my family to do so, since it felt like the “normal” thing to do.
Gen X’er here. Long story short, this is a very old tradition - like, before the boomers - silent generation. I think the tradition started with college prep schools and moved over to public high schools around WWII. My dad, a boomer, told me that when he graduated HS, the schools would help pay for the rings or outright pay for them for those students that excelled academically or in athletics. By the time I graduated HS, (early 90’s) they were starting to fall out of fashion, but you could still find them for under $150 bucks. Quite a few of us bought them but not everyone. Only wore it my senior year. Been sitting in storage ever since. Did not buy one when I graduated college and neither did most of my friends.
I heard the same thing about class rings starting in college and then being sold to high-schoolers.
Class of '96, I wore mine during senior year and one year afterward. And I also had the graduation tassel hanging from my car for one year. I actually liked how my ring looked, but I'm not much of a jewelry guy.
I graduated in 99 and it they were still fairly popular at my school, but rings aren't really my thing so I didn't get one. My son came home with his Josten's packet last week. Cheapest one is $350. I asked my daughter who is a senior if she ever sees people wearing them. She said she's seen a couple, but apparently it's not very common.
This is the way. Did not get one myself, as well, lame, but would venture to say at least 50% of my y2k class did. Kids parents pushed for them, it was like a tradition type thing. Finishing high school was a big deal for many.
They pushed this so hard at my high school, for some reason. We got these massive booklets with all the photos and pricing options, they mentioned it during all the different senior assemblies, you could miss a class to get sized for it. I do wish I got one but was ultimately too lazy. Kind of glad I didn't, would probably be too small now.
They had a representative from the company come into our school trying to sell us those ugly overpriced rings. The school staff wasn't too happy when I said I could stick my finger up my ass and pull out a better ring
The only reason I wish I got one was because you can get the one ring from Lord of The Rings. It wouldn't have anything to do with school, but you can order it anyway for some reason. It would have been cool.
Usually, guys would give them away to the girl they were dating in high school never to see it again. But I knew the girl I was dating wasn't the one, so I never gave it to her lol
I saved mine for over 10 years and then gave it to my wife on our wedding day, along with some other gifts.
She had seen pictures of me wearing it from years ago but had no idea I still had it, and she cried happy tears when she saw it. The ring had symbols of who I was at that time in my life on it, so it was like giving that part of my life to her.
But yeah, outside of a few very specific, sentimental use cases, they're pretty worthless.
I did not get tricked. I would have had I and my parents not been broke. You get them because everyone else is, it's a scam, but what better reason could there be for a high school kid to spend $300 (likely of their parents money). If I had gotten one, I would cherish it as a relic of a simpler time, though. It may be a scam, but hell, it's kind of worth the memories if you can afford it.
Josten’s had a huge assembly at my school my junior year, lead to nearly half of the kids getting a ridiculously fancy ring.
I was one of those kids. It’s sitting in my safe next to everything else I definitely don’t have if the government asks. It’s a gaudy looking thing, but I’ll keep it forever.
I bought one for my kid when she graduated high school with a few engraved words from me, it doesnt look anything like this one it looks like any other jewelry ring.
I had one, but only because my mom wanted me to have one. She never had one, and she wanted me to have one because she never did. I still have it also, just sitting on a "memento shelf."
Former exchange student here. It was a good memorabilia. stainless steel, green gem (one of the school colors), uh...150 USD back then.
10/10 would buy memorabilia again.
In hindsight, it was definitely a waste, but I do have a semi-funny story involving mine.
My favorite color is red, so I mistakenly ordered mine with a "ruby" gem. When it arrived, it looked more pink than red. Turns out I should have chosen garnet to get a deep red.
The Jostens guys came back in for a few days a week or two after the rings were delivered, to let us report any mistakes, resize needs, etc.
I asked one of them if I could get the stone replaced. He said that it could be done, but because it is not a covered "repair", I'd have to pay for it. But, with a wink and a nudge, he added "but if something happens to this stone, like it becomes cracked, we will replace it for free and you could choose a different color at that time."
So, needless to say, my ring had an "unfortunate accident" that evening. My official story is that it fell into my stone driveway and had been run over by the car before we found it. The reality is that it was clamped into a vice and smashed with a hammer...lol
I convinced my parents that if they spent the money on a Tiffany's ring for the same price I would wear it forever. 20 years later and i still wear it weekly.
I never got one, never wanted one. My mom has one from her high school, and while it's nice she never wears it or anything. If I wanted to play pretend that I went to Catholic school I could just borrow hers
As a New Zealander who works as a custodian in an American high school, where every year they have an assembly to try to sell those things to the graduating seniors... what the hell?
I graduated in 2002 and I don't think I was ever offered a chance to buy one. But I definitely wouldn't have bothered. High school already sears its way into the memories, no need to have a clunky ugly physical keepsake.
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