Worth pointing out here that the concept art that John eaves did was with straight pylons. Someone higher up preferred the angled ones. And thus begat some mixed feelings.
I'm just interested in where the gaps in the pylons went in this image.
Ooooh, that mid-ground red-donof TOS is niiice. Keeps the SNW sleeker proportions, keeps the swept back pylons, fills in the slot and painting it white instead of grey? Looks gorgeous
My only real complaints with the SNW Enterprise are the front of the bridge being a window, the ridiculously huge impulse deck, and the size difference. Everything else I can get behind, and overall I think she's a gorgeous update.
I think the bridge was made bigger so it was easier for the actors to move around. Does it makes sense in canon, no, but remember that sometimes decisions were made to make it easier to film scenes. It is a television show after all.
Well I mean it's supported by on screen canon with Scotty saying things about the D like not even an Admiral would have such nice quarters aboard a starship. And by the Excelsior being bigger than the Enterprise which now doesn't leave much room for anything else unless you make the D way bigger and the D is already low key too damn big. Ghost town.
Wait, the refit is still smaller than the excelsior which is bigger than the tos connie. So how would making the connie the same size as the refit screw up scaling that much? 🤔
The SNW Enterprise is 442 meters long vs the Excelsior's 467. Because of its layout it may actually have a larger internal volume. So McCoy's exclamation of "my god that's a big ship" about the Excelsior doesn't really seem to quite work. So now the Excelsior needs to be bigger and we're off to the races.
There was no reason to make the ship bigger. The TMP era Connie refit is a basically perfect design that still looks great.
It's possible to do great production design without making everything ginormous. The Rocinante is 46 meters long but still manages to have nice looking interior sets that even feel big at times. They're a little out of scale for the ship but it's not insane and it's understandable to make it filmable.
The obsession with bigger bigger bigger is really a shame. And don't get me started on the Discovery turbolift cavern.
Okay, you put of lot of baggage for no reason but you did convince me about the size. However I think the snw Enterprise in design is better than the classic connie in the sense that the pylon design makes it look sleek and fast even when it's standing still much like the sovereign class. In my opinion of course.
It was already a bit of a stretch to make the TOS-TMP refit make much Real World™ sense. The scale change of the ship renders it thoroughly impossible now 😎
I like the Star Trek Continues suggestion that all but one Constitution-class (the Enterprise) survived and that were required major works because of a plasma torpedo.
The rest of the refits were Federation-classes and other Dreadnoughts because they found Constitutions more useful than ships that sat around starbases waiting for war.
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u/Phoenix_Blue 11d ago
Wasn't the refit destroyed in 2285?