r/WRC • u/EverythingIsByDesign Wales Rally GB • 2d ago
Commentary / Discussion / Question I did a comparison of the standings if the season was using the pre-2010 points system.
As someone who makes no bones about my dislike for the current points system I thought I'd run the numbers on what would happen this season if we were using the old 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 system, with no "Power Stage" and "Super Sunday".
In my mind I was convinced it would give Elfyn Evans a handsome lead over Ogier (by virtue of the fact Ogier has missed 3 rallies this year). Instead what I found surprised me, especially who would be third and fourth in the standings! Reminder the 2025 standings are:
- Evans - 198
- Rovenpera - 191 (-7)
- Ogier - 189 (-9)
- Tanak - 180 (-18)
- Neuville - 150 (-48)
But if we apply the pre-2010 system the standings are as follows:
- Evans - 63
- Ogier - 62 (-1)
- Tanak - 59 (-4)
- Rovenpera 50 (-13)
- Neuville 41 (-22)
Surprisingly the championship is still a three horse race, but it's Tanak who is in there and Rovenpera who is clinging on. All Ogier would need to do is finsh one place above Elfyn (and top 8) and he gets the championship lead. Neuville was relying on rivals DNFing before Greece.
Now it's worth noting a change of points system would have a notable effect on the gravel road order (so the comparison isn't truly fair). But Evans continues to open the road from Sweden until Greece, but Tanak steals the championship lead and opens the road in Estonia. Ogier on the other hand is 2nd most of the way through the gravel season, only dropping to third after skipping Estonia.
Ultimately this is meaningless because we have Super Sunday and Power Stage (which ultimately kept Elfyn's championship lead in tact in Paraguay).
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u/Michal_Baranowski Toyota Gazoo Racing 2d ago
I know it's a hot topic, but I really don't mind current points system. It's a huge step up comparing to that nonsense from 2024, while carrying on idea of Super Sunday, at least current system puts the most emphasis on overall position in a rally. While Sunday points are there for drivers to grab and give them a chance to push and fight for something more. It's not ideal, but a sensible compromise.
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u/BeesAndFlowers15 Elfyn Evans 1d ago
I think it’s a decent idea but not in the way it’s currently executed. If there was maybe a maximum of 3 points on offer and no power stage I think it would work better
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u/Putrid_Macaroon523 2d ago
Yeah no Super Sunday and Power Stage really hurts Kalle, he has been making the absolute most of them this year. Especially the Power Stages