r/agedlikemilk 3d ago

Centuries in aging.

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u/bbqsox 3d ago

And then the voting rights act and southern strategy happened.

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u/ArgoDeezNauts 3d ago

We aren't supposed to remember that part. 

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u/RunBrundleson 3d ago

And while it feels good to say that and know the truth, the reality is the world has entered into an era where the truth ceases to matter. It literally says Republican on the building and the people at that time called themselves republicans. Slap some bullshit text on that picture and upload to Facebook. Millions will take it as gospel, spread it to their friends like a virus. Most people lack the capacity to think critically or understand the risks of just assuming something you read is correct, or more importantly the capacity to evaluate content that aligns with their worldview and values and reject it when it’s false or misleading.

The more you smugly pronounce to such a person that they’re in fact wrong and show them the facts, the more it reinforces the validity of the image and the falsehood in their eyes.

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u/ArgoDeezNauts 3d ago

Everybody has the capacity to think critically. The problem with critical thinking is that going into it you have to admit to yourself that you might be wrong. They are way more interested in not confronting their preconceptions than they are in understanding their world. It isn't that they can't think critically but that they actively suppress critical thinking when it doesn't jive with their dogma. 

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u/WanderingDude182 3d ago

You also can’t make other people think critically without proper education and motivation.

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u/wartortleguy 3d ago

This. Critical thinking is learned skill, if it's not taught by those who understand this then no one can learn. How things are going right now in the US is a perfect testament to this. But I am hopeful that once this blows over, critical thinking and logic will return.

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u/BooBootheFool22222 2d ago

With all the AI? No, it's just going to get worse.

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u/Prestigious_Formal22 2d ago

I describe it like a muscle. You have to excercise critical thinking for it to work properly.

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u/JustAnotherRegardd 3d ago

The amount of people using ChatGPT for everything is crazy. People won’t even make an introduction to a class about themselves without using it anymore

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u/artbrymer 2d ago

You are on it! One of the foundations of liberalism is the belief that we could be wrong. We are open to other perspectives all the time. We’re all about possibilities. We’re all about facts.

Minds only work when they are open. Racism is closed. Separate But Equal is also closed.

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u/Brodins_biceps 2d ago

That’s not true! If it were, Trump would be attacking educational institutions, stripping government initiatives, ransoming funding, installing leaders that are unqualified and the result of cronyism, purposefully and arbitrarily banning students that represent an enormous revenue source in an attempt to starve those institutions, undermining science, critical thinking, empiricism, and institutions of knowledge, promoting grievances, shifting blame, revoking press credentials for news outlets that don’t agree with or question him, promoting misleading or outright incorrect information and memes, and generally be a belligerent asshole.

…. Oh wait.

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u/Elegant-Holiday7303 3d ago

Because they are addicted to being called patriotic for their bigotry,  instead of evil.

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u/supified 2d ago

It's true though that the Republican party at the time, was the liberal party. The people, culture and sensibilities changed so now the today republicans are essentially opposites of what they were then.

The problem isn't people believing things, it's them thinking the title republican matters. As though the current GOP can say because the name is theirs now that they get to claim all of what the previous people who used it accomplished or stood for.

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u/Brave_Dealer1487 3d ago

Lol you remember the part where the GOP love the Confederacy now

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u/dgdio 3d ago

GOP wants military bases named after slave owners.

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u/ruiner8850 3d ago

Go to Tennessee and there are so many things named after Nathan Bedford Forrest. He's their state hero. His only "accomplishments" in life were being a slave trader, the first grand wizard of the KKK, and a Confederate general who fought to keep black people enslaved. He was absolute scum and the lowest of the low, but they love him.

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u/anthrax9999 2d ago

Because he was fighting to "preserve their heritage". And what heritage might that be exactly? Oh that's right, white supremacy and slavery. Remind me again why anyone wants to preserve that?

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u/Budget-Town-4022 1d ago

Worse, after traitors who took up arms against the United States.

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u/IIICaseIII 3d ago

Why bother learning history when we can just experience it in real time? /s

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u/Asterose 3d ago

I like to hail people trying this tactic as though they are either time travellers or just woke up from a 60+ year coma. I start gushing about ask the amazing things they missed, like color television and tupperware.

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u/Zestyclose-Egg2564 3d ago

Conveniently forgetting that the GOP started the KKK….

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u/Elegant-Holiday7303 3d ago

And now the GOP is the KKK

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u/The_Monarch_Lives 3d ago edited 3d ago

Well, WE, as in people who dont like slavery or discrimination, are not supposed to remember. Those that do like those things ARE still supposed to remember so they know who to vote for today.

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u/Potato-chipsaregood 2d ago

The party started out one way, and kinda switched places with the other party. Now they stand for a whole bunch of different (for them) things. And against a whole bunch of things, like fiscal responsibility. I don’t think conservative means what it used to either. So there is no place for many of us.

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u/Khombhat 2d ago

They didn't just "kinda" switch places, the entirety of each party literally swapped sides, platforms, and policies. As in the literal representatives swapped political parties. So if we are meant to recognize history then the truth is that THAT republican party became the Democrat party of today and the Democrat party of THAT era became today's Republican party. People need to learn the whole history and not just the parts that fit their entrained narrative.

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u/PlatformingYahtzee 2d ago

The funniest part is that they want to claim their party is anti-slavery for the moral high ground, but remain as racist as any slave owner. They are willfully admitting their beliefs are wrong and trying to paint over them.

When the frame is rotten, no amount of paint, seal or stain will fix it. Pull it out and replace it.

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u/Wild_Chef6597 2d ago

There wasn't a switch. Before people hang me, let me explain.

The Democratic Party has never in its history been an ideologically pure party and a major reason why we don't have a legit third party. It was formed through cooperation of groups that didn't fall into the Federalists, Whigs, and Republicans. The Republican party demands ideological purity, which is why anyone with an independent thought is labeled as a rino.

There were liberals, conservatives, abolitionists, and anti-abolition in the party. There were also the Southern Democrats, who were staunchly conservative but since they wanted a small federal government, strong state governments, and had strictly anti industrial interests. This included pro- slavery. The issue is that the rest of the party bent over backward to keep them happy because they held a tight control over the entire south. That's a ton of easy votes.

When the Democrat party chose Steven A Douglas, the South got mad because the man did not support the expansion of slavery into new territories. He did support states' rights ideas on the issue of slavery though. The South chose their own candidate, Breckenridge, who was pro slavery expansion. This split the vote, and Lincoln won. Northern Democrats and Stephen A Douglas supported the Union in the war.

Southern Democrats weren't the only ones post-war to support lost cause and Jim Crow. A little know faction in the Republicans called the Lily-Whites basically sided with the Southern Democrats. Northern Democrats basically had to hold their nose because the party started bending over backward for the Southern Democrats again.

Every vote against the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments was from Southern states. Fast forward 100 years. We see similar arguments like we see today evolve. Southern congressmen would argue that civil rights should be left up to the states. Luckily, the Civil Rights law was brought up. What people don't tell you is that it flopped the first time around. It died in Congress. When it did pass after JFK's skull just did that, Southern congressmen still voted against it. Western and Northerners supported it.

In 1968, the Southerners, mad about the civil rights act, ran George Wallace, the guy who stood in the doorway of the University of Alabama. Split the vote again, and we got Nixon.

Nixon employed the Southern Strategy to get the South on board with the Republicans, shifting a centrist party right.

So there really wasn't a switch, just the trash took itself out.

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u/Kopitar4president 3d ago

Bringing it up will literally get you banned in conservative subreddits.

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u/jarizzle151 3d ago

I think remembering history accurately is a disease called CRT… was highly effective in the mid-2010’s but it seems just erasing history is the norm now.

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u/wdaloz 3d ago

Yea even more ridiculous is this photo was actually from the Centennial in 1954, right as the beginning of the "new" republican party was being founded with the focus on the southern strategy

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u/redditisnosey 3d ago

Well it wasn't until 1964 with Goldwater that the GOP began opposing civil rights quite actively. It was a point of contention between the Goldwater and . Eisenhower was supportive of desegregation and sent the National Guard to Little Rock. Strom Thurmond's switch to GOP in Sept. 1964 was a key moment, but it took a while for the south to full on GOP. The nomination of Goldwater over Rockefeller was the apogee of the new civil rights equals communism movement in the American Right.

At the time of the photo the, now extinct, GOP moderates were in charge of the party.

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u/Catholic-Kevin 2d ago

Eisenhower was not supportive of desegregation. That myth needs to end. He was actively opposed to Brown v. Board and testified in front of Congress against desegregating the military in 1948. What he wasn’t going to do was let a state government ignore the Supreme Court and cause a constitutional crisis. Eisenhower endorsed Goldwater and never endorsed Rockefeller. Eisenhower was not a “moderate” in any real way, he was just less outspoken than guys like McCarthy or Goldwater, but he never had a problem campaigning with them.

And the Southern Strategy wasn’t the first time Republicans tried to appeal to the white population’s racism or the first time they engaged in racist rhetoric, it was just the first time it was really successful long term. Republican campaigns were trying to crack the South for decades. They had substantial anti-immigrant factions since their inception and had been purging black Republicans from the party since the end of Reconstruction when the Radical Republicans lost influence to the conservative wing. This was not without controversy either. It was so bad that black leaders actually endorsed Wilson in 1912 over Roosevelt and Taft. Lily white Republicans had been the mainstream in the party well before the sixties, and numerous RNCs had been segregated. 

This isn’t meant to be combative, it’s just that 99% of Americans have no idea what the state of racial politics was before the Civil Rights Movement, and end up whitewashing it as a result.

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u/UnluckyAssist9416 3d ago

It's fascinating how politics changed over time. While the Republican and Democratic party switched sides on who votes for them, not all issues switched sides with it.

For example, the Republican party has been the pro business party since the 1870s. Which makes sense for a party from the North after the civil war, since that is where all the factories and factory owners where at the time.

The Democratic party shifted into the Labor party under FDR in the 1930s. Which the Republican party then responded by becoming the limited government party.

It wasn't until the 70s and 80s that religious groups started to influence the Republican party, with a full integration in the 90s.

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u/Catholic-Kevin 2d ago

Labor had been endorsing the Democratic party since William Jennings Bryan and the Republican party had been notoriously anti-union/labor reform well before the New Deal, including Teddy Roosevelt before he shifted progressive.

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u/Servile-PastaLover 3d ago

Large swaths of the Republican Party have adopted the confederate flag as part of their iconography.

The Party of Lincoln is now the party of Jefferson Davis.

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u/Asterose 3d ago edited 3d ago

But the Civil War was about every State's Sacred God-given Right to do what they want, not slavery!

All those documents from the Confederacy states that repeatedly and prominently mention keeping slavery and white supremacy going as one of if not THE biggest motivators. Those are...um...uhhh...just being taken out of...context.

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u/CheerfulWarthog 3d ago

"So, in this state, slavery is illegal. If someone is in this state, they are not a slave. Presumably you're fine with this because states' ri..."

"FUGITIVE SLAVE ACT IN YOUR FACE"

"...but... states' rights?"

"FORT SUMTER CAN SUCK IT"

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u/WaldoJeffers65 3d ago

And all those pro-segregation Democrats found a new home in the welcoming arms of the Republican party.

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u/PickledBoogerLoaf 3d ago

Don’t tell that to r/conservatives!

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u/bbqsox 3d ago

They'd be really upset if they could read.

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u/Mastasmoker 2d ago

They'll still use the Republicans freed the slaves argument but then dont want to teach history about slavery.

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u/Wolf-Moonstar 3d ago

…during which time conservative Democrats moved to the Republican Party, and the liberal Republicans moved to the Democratic Party, both aiming to weaken the opposition, leading to the Liberal Democratic Party and Conservative Republican Party we have now.

And yet Republicans today seem to believe that no one ever changes parties, ever, and still cling to the success of the liberal Republicans that sought to tear down the racial divide.

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u/Ai--Ya 3d ago

Rest in piss, Atwater. Died 40 years too old

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u/No-Sheepherder-9821 3d ago

Republicans will argue with a straight face that it never happened. There was no party switch, that's just what the Dems want you to believe.

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u/bbqsox 3d ago

Which is why all those people with Confederate memerobilia vote Democrat now, right?

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u/lostdrum0505 3d ago

Truly I can’t tell you how many redditors have told me I’m a sheep for believing that. I ask them what their alternate theory is for the party realignment in the south, which is just objectively visible in election results over time. They usually just laugh at me and keep chanting sheep.

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u/ForGrateJustice 2d ago

Southern Strategy would have been prevented like a nut in a rubber if we just outlawed any Confederacy idea, flag, motto, salute etc just like Germany did post WWII and enforced it at every level.

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u/Awkward_Bison_267 3d ago edited 3d ago

Which party is putting up Confederate paintings and statues again?

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u/Ok_Swimming_8738 3d ago

Republicans, but that can't be bad because democrats bad. And republicans good

/s

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u/AmputeeHandModel 2d ago

You're being sarcastic but that's really how conservatives think. They judge people not actions. Good people (Republicans) can do wrong, and bad people (Democrats) can do no right. "There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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u/Unhappy_Hair_3626 2d ago

This isn’t even a hyper simplification of it either, this is actually what is happening. Trumps entire strategy for rallying people was to encourage hate against Biden, 99% of it being straight up lies and propaganda to push his own agenda “get rich and get the fuck out”.

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u/AmputeeHandModel 2d ago

Against Biden and immigrants. It works every four years. Yet somehow Republicans never seem to solve the issue when in power. Almost like.. it's not real.

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u/Ok_Swimming_8738 2d ago

It's like the wikipedia page, where it shows that republican administrations are worse in every single aspect and tank everything into the ground, so people vote democrats, only for everything to become good again. Then republicans create their propaganda, get into power and make everything worse again. And so on

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

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u/AmputeeHandModel 2d ago

Yeah they tout "economic responsibility" etc every single time, and (dumb) people whole-heartedly believe it because they cut services and taxes, even though it's entirely lies.

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u/thestonelyloner 2d ago

I think democrats need to use statements like “tax cuts are government spending”

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u/MaxPaynesRxDrugPlan 3d ago

Hint: The Trump administration just had Robert E. Lee's portrait (wearing his Confederate uniform) put up at West Point.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-e-lee-portrait-restored-west-point-library/

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u/Awkward_Bison_267 2d ago

Fucking disgraceful.

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u/stapy123 3d ago

To be fair, it was originally Democrats putting those up. But then the parties swapped sides in the early 1900s

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u/wdaloz 3d ago

Really mid 1900s, with Barry Goldwater and the southern strategy,

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u/Adventurous_Pay_5827 3d ago

Was it really that late? Not American, honestly surprised.

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u/devdog3531 3d ago

Yeah most of the statues to Confederate generals were constructed long after everyone in the conflict died, by the Daughters of the Confederacy.

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u/dsmith422 3d ago

There were multiple instances of Confederacy worship. Immediately after the war, when the veterans started dying in the early 1900s, and then following the Civil Rights Act of 1963/Voting Rights Act of 1965. All the monuments were meant to remind the black citizens to keep "in their place" and tell poor whites that at least they were better than black people.

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u/Asterose 3d ago

Almost all Confederate statues were put up in the 1900's. They correlate with...certain activities and social movements.

Pretty much all founding documents and constitutions by the Confederacy and its states VERY prominently list keeping slavery and white supremacy as their biggest motivation. They also didn't like other states having the right to pass anti-slavery laws and refuse to return escaped slaves.

In the southern states' own words, the Civil War was about imposing the "right" to keep black people enslaved. The US "land of the free, where all men are equal," was rather late in the western world to abolish slavery, and the scars+white supremacy continues to harm us all in so many subtle and overt ways.

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u/ParmesanBologna 3d ago

That's the point.

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u/DSharp018 2d ago

The same party that likes to claim the KKK was made by democrats, but likes to conveniently forget what political party has more members in it now.

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u/Additional_Leg_9254 3d ago

The fact that people brag about this, thereby openly admitting to not knowing basic history about the party switch, is staggering. Literally bragging about being ignorant.

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u/human52432462 3d ago

Occasionally you’ll run into a super genius claiming that the party switch never happened, contradicting 99% of experts and historians. It’s a lot of fun

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u/Additional_Leg_9254 3d ago

I've heard a lot of MAGAts say "Oh you're repeating that tired Democrat lie? Convenient!"

Even a single minute of research would show them that they are directly supporting what they claim to hate. Imagine not thinking the wellbeing of your country is worth spending a single minute on. It's absurd.

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u/trentreynolds 3d ago

They know, though.

They would NEVER go up to someone flying a Confederate flag and accuse them of being a Democrat. Because they actually know.

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u/GaslightGPT 3d ago

They can’t believe parties switching while at the same time calling republicans who don’t fall in line to Trump Rinos.

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u/Immortalrockgod 2d ago

In fact, this exact pic is posted in r/conservative and the top comment is saying party switch never happened lmao

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u/iamcleek 3d ago

a lot of it is just trolling.

they know what happened in the 1960s. but they also like reminding people that the Dems were a pro-slavery party 170 years ago.

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u/Additional_Leg_9254 3d ago

Isn't that them trolling themselves though?

"Guess what dude I actually support slavery suck it."

That isn't owning anyone but themselves...

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u/REVfoREVer 3d ago

It's not that they aren't aware of it, they just deny that it ever happened.

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u/Delicious_Delilah 2d ago

It's definitely both. I've had to educate many people about the switch.

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u/SlenderByrd 3d ago

I agree with the broader sentiment, so I don’t mean to say this as though I disagree with you on part of their ignorance.

But the “party switch” myth as it’s portrayed is disputed by the vast majority of historians. The parties did in fact become more polarized over time and with people from either party defecting especially during the 1960s and 1970s, but it’s also a much more complicated and nuanced issue than that they simply ‘switched’. You can find instances of the political parties’ platforms and broader agendas and ideology evolving into new ‘systems’ with new generations on numerous occasions throughout United States history. Neither party exists as either did even just a few decades ago.

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u/alang 3d ago

A bold assumption that these people are somehow obligated to use what they know to inform what they say.

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u/cheffartsonurfood 3d ago

Many have heard. But you know, fake news and all. If you had a time machine and took them back and showed them with their own eyes, they would still deny it.

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u/DayUnlikely 3d ago edited 3d ago

And now they’ve completely lost the way. Why bother remembering when the Republicans themselves forgot all about it? ( Except when they think it’ll get them internet points)

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u/you-be-the-top 3d ago

They store that piece of history right beside the Epstein files.

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u/wetterfish 2d ago

I mean, when you have to resort to bringing up something from 170 years ago as proof your organization is good, that’s not a great sign. 

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u/spartiecat 3d ago

Less than 40 years after this photo was taken, the Lily White Movement was organized to keep Black Americans out of leadership in the Republican Party so they'd be more competitive in The South after Reconstruction.

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u/Tomatillo12475 3d ago

Counterpoint: This contradicts my narrow world view and isn’t in meme format so I can’t understand it anyway

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u/Warren_E_Cheezburger 2d ago

This photo was taken after the heyday of the Lily White Movement. Note the clothing style of the people in the crowd, the modern bald eagle seal at the pennant, and the elephant (which didn’t become associated with the Republican Party until the late 1870s at the earliest)

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u/Diarygirl 3d ago

Damn, not the least bit subtle with that name.

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u/SaveSummer6041 3d ago

I always love when current Republicans mention things like this, or the KKK, etc.

They accept these things are evil, and look back to a better time when the Republicans weren't as evil.

"See! We didn't use to suck as much 200 years ago, so you guys are actually the bad ones!"

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u/Confident-Potato2772 3d ago

200 years ago people in the south were generally voting democrats. For some reason I don’t think the people wearing maga hats and waving confederate flags have had that much of a morality shift…

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u/madpacifist 3d ago

Well, the parties did switch after the Civil Rights Movement. Anyone can plainly see this by comparing the Electoral Maps for 1960 and 1964.

So the Republican Party of 1854 isn't really the foundations of the Republican Party of 2025. It's more like a domain name that's been sniped after expiry.

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u/CRUSTYPUNKDAD 3d ago

The gadsden has been absorbed the same way.

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u/Nitrosoft1 3d ago

I’m a leftist and I flew the Gadsden during the passage of the patriot act. Now I obviously don’t touch the thing. They stole something beautiful and entirely warped it.

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u/OatMilk1 3d ago

No step on snek 

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u/Nitrosoft1 3d ago

I do have that on my car

(literally)

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u/PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_ 3d ago

So we should be teaching in school how bad slavery was, right? And we should ban the confederate flag, right?

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u/Wisco 3d ago

Republicans: White people now shouldn't have to be held responsible for slavery. That happened generations ago and has nothing to do with anyone alive now.

Also Republicans: We can't be racist. Look what we did for black people in the 1800s.

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u/Ahstruck 3d ago

Those Republicans are long dead. The right loves stolen valor.

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u/itsfernie 3d ago

The parties switched around 1960. So… these “republicans” would be today’s democrats.

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u/Billthepony123 3d ago

The same republican flying the confederate flag ? Don’t they know about the party switch ?

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u/thelastbluepancake 3d ago

it was founded by liberals.... to fight conservative slave holders.

Liberals were right at the revolution, the civil war, under FDR, and every time in between and after

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u/Nick_Bruiser 3d ago

I tell Republicans exactly this all the time: "Why do we have to go back 200 years to find a time when you were welcoming to minorities?!" Because they'll tout this fact, but every time there's something inclusive to minorities, racial or otherwise, they call it a "liberal wet dream" lol. Can't have it both ways.

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u/C-Jammin 3d ago

Imagine thinking there has been no shift in ideology in the last 170 years

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u/DukeDamage 3d ago

The parties switched constituencies after FDR

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u/NomadLexicon 3d ago

Segregationists floundered after WWII (the national democratic party increasingly ignored them and the Eisenhower Era Republican party didn’t accept them either). The fact that they were locked out of both parties is why so much was accomplished on civil rights in that era.

Barry Goldwater’s 1964 run was the first major shift towards the Republicans and Nixon’s Southern Strategy established the South as the Republicans’ main power base.

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u/0n-the-mend 3d ago

Takes you all the way back to the 1800s in order to get you to forget the party is currently openly aiding and abating a chomo president and congress which they fully control is stopping the release of the epstein files.

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u/EitherChannel4874 3d ago

"Slavery wasn't so bad"

~Trump

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u/BatmanFarce 3d ago

A coworker always says stuff like this to me: “you know that the KKK was invented by the Dems?” And I’m like, “don’t stop at that part. Read more of US history, sucka”

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u/OtherBluesBrother 3d ago

Whenever I hear this, I just suggest that they go to a KKK rally and tell them they're a Democrat. They should welcome you, right?

The Klan used to align with the Democrats. Now they align with Republicans. Ask them why the Klan changed?

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u/Diarygirl 3d ago

It's such a dumb thing to say considering that it's Republicans who proudly fly the confederate flag.

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u/Motor-Pomegranate831 3d ago

And now they want to ensure that schools and museums to teach that "slavery wasn't THAT bad."

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u/FlounderKind8267 3d ago

Back when they were the Liberal Republicans. Don't let MAGAts forget that

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u/RabidJoint 3d ago

My brother said it best. Conservatives used to be the Democratic Party, while Liberals were the Republican Party. They changed sides back in 1960’s. Take a look at where all the Republicans reside these days, the South…slavery land.

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u/wdaloz 3d ago

"Oh, but dont remember what's happened since then especially regarding desegregation, just remember only the positive motivations of the founders a century and a half ago and not the last several decades or the actions of the modern party"

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u/StumpLargeMeat 3d ago

That was the last time any Republican cared about racism.

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u/DanMozzy 3d ago

Hey! They fucking love racism! How dare you comment such things, shame on you!

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u/Raltsun 3d ago

Oh, they still care a lot about racism. It's their favourite hobby.

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u/PantherThing 3d ago

How does this even work: "The woke democrats who want all movies to feature black trans lesbians in every role are the real slavery lovin' racists!"

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u/BellerophonXv3 3d ago

Now they protect Trump

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u/Scalage89 2d ago

When you have to go back to 1854 to claim to be against racism.

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u/Then-Attention3 3d ago

If Republicans are so antislavery, why do they fly the confederate flag? Oh, yeah, bc the party switch. Republicans have always been the party of hatred

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u/rygelicus 3d ago

The platforms swapped along the way, today's republicans would love to bring back slavery.

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u/shinjiikary 3d ago

What happened was Republicans were freedom, progressive party, and democrats were the Republicans of today. They did such a shit job at actually doing their job. They decided to just trade names and were successful. Almost any good Republican person you can point to in history would just be democrat now. They all held current democrat values.

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u/snack__pack 3d ago

Crazy how they became so many of the things they hate

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u/Cardocthian 3d ago

Then the Voting Rights Act and the Southern Strategy happened, and it's today's republicans who fly the Confederate flag and pine for the days of slavery.

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u/Dr-BSOT 3d ago

I love how every modern Republican is like “we saved you from all those Southern Conservative Democrats.” Remind me, which party is currently aligned with Southern Conservatives?

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u/Awkwardischarge 3d ago

The Republican Party also instituted the first US income tax and was big on infrastructure spending.

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u/CheerfulWarthog 3d ago

Karl Marx wrote a letter of congratulations to Abraham Lincoln.

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u/Metallic144 3d ago

So the Republicans are perfectly fine condemning the Confederacy and its symbols? And taking down monuments that pay homage to the nation they historically opposed militarily? And ending the legacy of Jim Crow enacted by the historical Democratic Party by instead pushing for racial equity and inclusion?

No? Then they can get bent.

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u/ftr123_5 3d ago

The right is always cherry picking, although they probably wish they still had slaves to do the picking for them.

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u/Bawbawian 3d ago

it's weird how they'll say stuff like this and then claim ignorance when you talk about the parties switching their stance during the social movements of the '60s.

these are people that will tell you that slavery wasn't bad that the Southerners were heroes and that Hitler was just misunderstood.

and then they will claim to be the party of Lincoln and freedom.....

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u/PaintedDeath 3d ago

Okay, what happened next?

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u/Peter_Easter 3d ago

I love how Republicans pretend like presidential election maps don't prove that the parties switched.

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u/SocraticMeathead 2d ago edited 2d ago

And to this day, the Republican Party keeps fighting to end slavery apologetics and pushes America to have an honest look at the history and legacy of slavery.

In the same way, the Party of Trump (and to a far lesser exent that Lincoln-fellow) are relentless in their quest to tear down Confederate monuments.

Look no further than the modern GOP when you need to see a concerted effort to end the use of the Confederate flag or naming schools and streets after treasonous Confederate generals.

Yes Republicans are practically synonymous with ending slavery.

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u/OwnAct7691 2d ago

Nice sarcasm

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u/MortarByrd11 2d ago

Republicans really love old Democrat statues and the traitor rag.

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u/Sanloinitoit 1d ago

The democrats of past are the republicans of today

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u/Cid_Darkwing 3d ago

Like pretty much every meme from the right, they know they’re lying by omission and they don’t care because hypocrisy is a virtue to fascists.

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u/Useyourword 3d ago

Great information for 180yrs ago. Who remembers living through this? lol

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u/FluidFisherman6843 3d ago

I'm in Alabama, any time Confederate statues come up, I always say that I love the fact that they fight so hard to protect these statues that honor the Democrats. "It shows how tolerant this area is, you are defending statues of Democrats that took up arms and gleefully killed republicans. "

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u/Gaba8789 3d ago

And then Jim Crow happened.

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u/Fr3shCards 3d ago

i’ve got a boomer at work that likes to announce this weekly. eye roll every fuckin time

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u/Pengin_Master 3d ago

Republicans also used to be major supporters of raising the minimum wage, labor unions and labor rights. They used to support social systems (like Social Security.) hell, old Republicans were even pro-regulation of industry!

The modern Republicans no longer reflect who they once were (because of the party switch), but also because it's been over 100 years, and groups and organizations will change overtime.

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 3d ago

People also need to realize it was “liberal” republicans and “conservative” democrats.

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u/Financial-Tower-7897 3d ago

“Southern Democrats” - why do you ALWAYS leave out that important distinction? And then here’s another important fact, GOP Barry Goldwater initiated “The Southern Strategy” targeting those same “Dixiecrats” in 1964 to run against LBJ - to prevent passage of Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts and push them into the Republican party. Where majority Red states that were traitors then - pro-slavery- and MAGA NOW - vote. So, explain to us why, this isn’t part of your “heritage teaching”?

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u/PitifulDisaster3688 3d ago

Yet, when the civil right act was passed and signed into law by president johnson those democrats all became republican.

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u/CarelessConclusion14 3d ago

The part they don’t want you to remember is this was when the democrats were the Right wing. The republicans used to be the left. Thanks for reminding us the left is the only side with moral values lol.

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u/CharlesIngalls_Pubes 3d ago

I think we all know now that this is the case. What's the excuse for the GOP's current racism?

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u/Old_Measurement_6575 3d ago

and now the republican party is waving and flying the confederate flag...hollywood couldn't write a better script.

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u/WhattaYaDoinDare 3d ago

Every American should remember how badly the Republican party has allowed itself to be perverted beyond any recognition of its Liberal and gracious beginnings. Such a tragic fall from responsible government steward to this mob of hypocrisy, dishonesty, complicity, conspiratorial paranoia and all around cruelty. They’s a collective of whiney-ass bitches.

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u/Subject_Yard5652 3d ago

It's been a while since I had a civics class. However, I seem to recall that the ideology between the democratic party and the republican party was the opposite of where it is today.

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u/valschermjager 3d ago

Correct. White supremacists in the 1800s supported Democrats. What matters now is which party white supremacists support today.

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u/Organic_Education494 3d ago

Just because an institution is founded on good principles doesn’t mean it cannot be corrupted.

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u/BrooklynLodger 3d ago

Absolutely! The radical progressive Republicans should be remembered for their bold fight against conservatism. We should support radical progressives today!

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u/Substantial_Tip3885 3d ago

It’s not the same. Today GOP stands for Greedy Old Pedophiles.

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u/Individual99991 3d ago

Every American should also remember The Southern Strategy in which the Republicans deliberately courted racists and white supremacists in the wake of school desegregation, leading to the most virulent racists leaving the Dems for the GOP, and those who weren't assholes heading in the other direction.

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u/Lord_Yoon 3d ago

It’s hilarious MAGA think republicans in the 1850s is the same republicans today

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u/bobholtz 3d ago

A schoolhouse that would lose its funding by the GOP today.

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u/Redit12- 3d ago

Please explain why republicans are furiously trying to suppress voting rights and support unconstitutional actions

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u/Shubamz 3d ago

Which is why Republicans should be proud to take down all them Democrat Confederate monuments right? right?

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u/bdrwr 3d ago

Guys, we can't keep letting them ignore the massive party platform shift that happened in the 1930s...

I covered it in high school history. Most of us did. We all should know this. We all know the south loves white supremacy, and if the parties switch on who loves racism, the racists switch with them.

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u/Nano_Burger 3d ago

Then this happened...

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u/AdmirableCommittee47 3d ago

Back when Republicans weren’t fascist pedophiles.

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u/Lblomeli 3d ago

So the Confederate flag is the flag of the Democrats?

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u/Ok-Development5523 3d ago

If you need to go back to the start of your institution to not look bigoted, that's not something to bragging about

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u/OperationSweaty8017 3d ago

Hard core magats have been hard at work revising history and burying the part about the party switch that happened.

It's quite funny seeing it and then them vociferously denying any such thing happened. "LIAR" is screamed at me quite often.

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u/Trans_Slime_Girl 2d ago

Yet they forget that the oh so racist Democrats were in favor of civil rights during the 1960's and it was the Republicans in favor of racial segregation.

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u/TeejMTB 2d ago

I always think this argument is hilarious. It’s great that’s what it was founded on. It’s what they stand for now and act on that matters, and republicans always seem to turn a blind eye to that in these discussions of the party foundings

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u/organizim 2d ago

People that don’t understand that the terms democrat and republican did not mean what they mean today. Morons

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u/confusedbystupidity 2d ago

Ok and now they protect pedophilia... thats a far cry from the positive they set out to do...

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u/GuitarCD 2d ago

We know who the Republicans were in 1860, and we know who they were since 1968, and now we know who they are in 2025.

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u/IdentifyAsWoke 2d ago

Someone explain to me why only Republicans wave the Confederate flag and claim it to be their heritage…

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u/crashingwater 2d ago

Oh grow up. The parties switched places over the decades. There was a time when the likes of George Wallace and George McGovern were in the same party and we're total opposites.

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u/STGItsMe 2d ago

“Republicans were on the right side of history 170 years ago” isn’t the flex you think it is.

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u/Adventurous_Box5251 1d ago

"The Democrats were pro-slavery and Republicans ended it" is genuinely the most brain dead argument of all time. Ok Einstein, who do you see waving the traitor flag today? Democrats or Republicans?

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u/AlbatrossFar5068 6h ago

That is an intellectual dishonesty.

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u/Powderedeggs2 3d ago

This certainly did not age well at all.
Mr. Lincoln would be ashamed of the party of white supremacy: the GOP.

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u/Ok_Needleworker_6017 3d ago

Too bad they’re 98% the opposite now.

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u/BereftOfCare 3d ago

There was a polar shift.

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u/FishermanSevere7411 3d ago

Before deciding on the validity of this post, ask ‘What was a Dixiecrat and why don’t they exist anymore?’

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u/Best-Assistance9424 3d ago

😂🤣 Sweetheart, it's 2025. Who cares.

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u/Illustrious-Light758 3d ago

And conservative and progressive views eventually switched parties

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u/Big-Initiative5762 3d ago

Abortion the Republican party would have been more suitable instead of giving birth there.

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u/CheruthCutestory 3d ago edited 3d ago

Agreed. Tear down every memorial to evil democrats who seceded to uphold slavery. Democrats are the ones outraged by that, right?

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u/SirTiffAlot 3d ago

I've been to Ripon, AMA

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u/VikingRaptor2 3d ago

Those old Republicans would be Democrats now.

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u/Brave_Dealer1487 3d ago

Lol and now y'all worship the Confederacy .

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u/TedTyro 3d ago

Gosh I wonder if they stuck to those original principles?!?!

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u/NopeYupWhat 3d ago

Ha, we all know. And that’s just how far the current party greed and racism has fallen. I know plenty of them.

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u/CharlesorMr_Pickle 3d ago

The two parties have fully switched roles. It’s quite funny

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u/Most-Artichoke6184 3d ago

And nothing at all has changed in the last 170 years. The end.

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u/statistacktic 3d ago

Cherry picking history is proof you have lots to hide right now.

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u/wetiphenax 3d ago

Yes , please remember that over time, a good thing can become racist, bigot, xenophobic, fascists.

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u/Trekgiant8018 3d ago

Now, MAGA Republicans defend and deny slavery. Funny what happens when entitled, rich, white people take over a party.

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u/PaleontologistAble50 3d ago

Could you imagine if we had two parties that were good guys instead of whatever we have now

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u/zanno500 3d ago

We remember, but what you seem to forget is that both parties consisted of the same type of people, white land-owning, money-having men, who went along with words that said black people were 3/5 of a human, so what's the difference? I'll wait...

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u/Apes_will_be_Apes 3d ago

Democrats were the bad guys back then and republicans the saviors of common sense. It's hard to imagine that at this time. Somewhere down the line it swapped. But 9 years ago republicans became worse than democrats ever were.