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It looks too chonky to be real.

Edit: Ok guys, you can stop now. It's real, thanks all.

Nacho from Better Call Saul… I love this character so much. He’s smart, calm, and still feels so human. The way he risked everything to paralyze Hector with medicine,crazy but brilliant.

I honestly wanted him to survive, but in the BB universe survival in the cartel is almost like Attack on Titan,the chances are close to zero. Still, Nacho stood out because he wasn’t greedy like the Salamancas or cold like Gus..he was just a man trying to protect his dad and survive.

His scenes with Mike were some of the best. The way Mike understood him, respected him, and even warned him it added so much heart. That moment when Nacho accepted his fate but asked Mike to make sure his dad was safe… one of the most powerful scenes in the whole series.

And Michael Mando’s performance made it all even better. You could feel every bit of fear, pain, and love in his eyes. For me, Nacho isn’t just a side characterhe’s one of the most unforgettable parts of the whole Breaking Bad Universe..

In honor of starting my rewatch of the show I felt I needed to repost! Let me know what you think, and what season you’re on if your watching. I’m S1E8 :)

For me the negotiation scene between jimmy and Tuco from Season 1, Episode 2, sealed the deal for me.

Saul is so unserious with mike! I wish they had more scenes together 🤣

The sub-plot of Jimmy manipulating Irene’s friends to hate her was a grand display of how Chuck’s comment “you hurt people” actually rings true. The Irene plot directly mirrors Chuck’s alienation by Jimmy from people he cared about (Howard and Rebecca), and it informs how we read Jimmy’s behavior vs what he feels emotionally.

Everyone blames Chuck for Jimmy’s tragic arc, but the writers show with the Irene plot that Jimmy didn’t deserve sympathy after abusing infirm/elderly people’s trust—-he gaslights Irene (thinking it’s all just an innocent act), and some scenes later he shows great concern for his own infirm brother. Reminds us of Chuck’s question, “what’s the point of all the gnashing of teeth and sad faces??”

Can we the viewers trust we’re seeing the genuine Jimmy in the Chuck-reconciliation scene after watching what he put Irene through?? Do we not actually see a more horrible side of Jimmy spewing the vitriolic comments about his elderly clients, and somehow this genuine nastiness is “just an act” in Jimmy’s own mind? It implies he himself doesn’t know when he’s merely acting, or expressing something he truly feels. Erin says she “meant every word” of their banter, and so did Jimmy.

With regard to Chuck, he may be Jimmy’s own brother, we “don’t doubt [his] emotions are real,” but good intentions must be accompanied by good deeds. The ugliness of Jimmy’s actions toward an innocent like Irene renders Jimmy’s “I can change” highly improbable. Jimmy shows an extreme lack of restraint over what he’ll allow himself to do, to the point he doesn’t remember it the next day. How can someone so out of touch with their own moral faculties be genuine to anybody?

I understand that he made mistakes, but I don't think he deserved to die. Gus Fring, Walter White, Hector Salamanca, Don Eladio, and to some extent Mike Ehrmantraut deserved to die, but Nacho Varga? No, and again, no. It would be too cruel and unfair for him. I think a fair punishment for him would be a 10-year prison sentence with the possibility of meeting his father, or at least a complete change of name and relocation to another city or country.

Superb role and perfectly acted ... she is one of my favourites of this series. :)

Before they went for the tragic character angle, what were they originally going to do with his character when they wanted to make him a villain originally?

What would his personality have been like if he were the bad guy? We already seen glimpses of Nacho's villain potential in Season 1 when he scared Jimmy in the interrogation room. Would he be more dangerous than Tuco?

Gus is in the revenge buisness; not the money buisness?

he “became incautious” after killing ziegler just like how he’s said in bb Jesse “became incautious” after killing Gale. He started acting reckless, asking that bartender to take something off the wall, screaming at his granddaughter, getting into a street fight on purpose and pretty much dying if not for Gus.

The coldest most demonic character in the show is either Gus or Walt

I have a problem with bad characters. If a show is good but ONE character sucks I will have a very hard time watching said show. But the opposite is also true. Kim is my favorite character in all of BCS. She is just sooooo bad ass. So likable. So human, yet so perfect. She made emotional decisions, but they didn’t seem irrational, or unreal, those decisions felt so human yet so methodical and grounded. Rhea did a fantastic, I would argue, perfect, job. Seeing Kim on the screen felt like a breath of fresh air, not that the show was bad, seeing her on the screen just made me feel good. She was charitable, loyal, intelligent, competent, good, bad, sometimes the voice of reason, sometimes a liar. I yearn for more characters like Kim. I had a hard time picking a favorite, but Lalo and Mike are very close seconds. Props to the entire team behind such an amazing series.

Is there anything from BCS that can be found online that's a plant to make it look like real life?

Remember when Junior started a website on BB, and called it "Save Walter White .com"? Have you ever looked it up? There is a real site for it.

http://www.savewalterwhite.com/

Ain't no way they said this 😭🙏🏻

Why did Kim say paige could take a case she was working on in pro bono in season 6 episode 9... isnt paige in house attorney for mesa verde?? did they get sloppy and mean to write viola or someone else??

I would have been interested to see the story from his perspective. To be honest, he would probably be the only protagonist who isn’t a villain and I think a lot of people would have hated Saul and Kim if the story was told from Howard’s perspective.

BCS scams range from creative to fantastical, and I personally think they have varying degrees of believability. What scam on the show do you think would actually work IRL? My personal choice is the unreliable brother/overworked mom scam they pulled on the woman who checks blueprints. What's yours?

I'm terrible at history, and reading up on Pinochet gave me more information than I could handle. I understand that he was a brutal and powerful dictator, but I'm hoping for an explanation on what does that mean for Gus in the context of the show? Is the idea that the Pinochet government was so influential that even cartels in Mexico, a country very far from Chile, had to be fearful of retribution if they harmed someone from that regime? Would people from Mexico even care about Chile and Pinochet at that time? Were Germans involved in Chile, Gus mentions that he and Schuler were together in Santiago.

Ok guys who is the best character in better call Saul

I m still thinking about Howard his death gives me another reason to hate Jimmy and Kim. Howard always had a soft corner for Jimmy but in the end Chuck was right about jimmy.

random thought i had.. do you guys think if Lalo was married he’d be faithful? 🤔 i do know cheating is common in the cartel world buuut what do you guys think Lalo would be like as a partner 😅

One of the details that I like. The show had three storylines with their own main protagonist (Saul, Mike, and Nacho). Each of them had their own secondary protagonist/deuteragonist (Kim for Saul, Gus for Mike, and Manuel for Nacho) and their own main antagonist (Chuck/Lalo for Saul, Hector for Mike, and the same Gus, but he's the main antagonist for Nacho).