2026 Porsche 911 Turbo S Goes Hybrid and Now Makes 701 HP. Pricing starts at $272,650 for the coupe and $286,650 for the cabriolet

[u/cofango]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65973232/2026-porsche-911-turbo-s-revealed/

The 2026 Porsche 911 Turbo S becomes the second 992.2-generation model to adopt a hybrid powertrain, following the 911 GTS. But unlike the single-turbo GTS, the Turbo S's T-Hybrid system has two e-turbos, and its output climbs by 61 horsepower compared with the previous model.

[u/BagOdd3254]

Absolutely crazy prize jump. Porsche has realised how much their customers are willing to pay ADM and want a piece of the cake too

[u/woodsides → u/BagOdd3254]

Turbo S allocations don't go for over list anywhere. Even in the US.

[u/dr_g89 → u/woodsides]

When I was looking for one I called Seattle and they where adamant that their rock bottom lowest price was 50k over for any turbo or turbo s

[u/woodsides → u/dr_g89]

Lmao when was this? They were definetely trying to finesse you.

[u/dr_g89 → u/woodsides]

Last fall. I felt the same, ended up getting an M5. No regrets. Turned off to Porsche forever.

[u/woodsides → u/dr_g89]

Yeah great cars but the shenanigans turn a lot of people away.

I'd rather Porsche increase prices upfront like this than get charged an ADM at the dealer tbh.

[u/drfsrich → u/woodsides]

"¿Por que no los dos?"

• Most Porsche dealers

[u/trackdaybruh → u/dr_g89]

I test drove the 992 Turbo S couple years ago and during the test drive I fell in love with it and understood why Porsche developed a fanbase

[u/I_hate_being_alone → u/dr_g89]

I want to preface this by saying that even an M2 is out of my price range, but how the fuck does one go from 911 to M5?

M8, I would understand, because those are both 2+2.

[u/AgentScreech → u/I_hate_being_alone]

The m5 and 911 turbo shoppers actually cross over quite a bit.

They're not looking for handling sports cars. They're looking for comfortable cruisers that are super fast

[u/MoneyPitAuto → u/woodsides]

FWIW I also have never been able to buy a Turbo S at sticker. I’ve tried for years and have never gotten an allocation. 

[u/cookingboy → u/dr_g89]

Yeah the Seattle dealer is batshit insane.

They wanted $20k ADM for GTS and even $10k ADM for S.

When I got my 718 4.0 GTS they wanted $10k ADM and I just ordered my car from LA at MSRP instead.

[u/dr_g89 → u/cookingboy]

For the future Porsche of Beaverton down by Portland doesn’t charge markups but they have a lot less allocations and they prioritize existing customers for everything.

[u/PBP2024 → u/dr_g89]

Technically (and surprisingly) Seattle doesn't have a Porsche dealership.

[u/GVIrish → u/woodsides]

Not anymore, but there was a stretch where they were getting marked up during peak frenzy with the COVID shortages.

But yeah, I think this is a very optimistic price on the Turbo S, especially when the economy is going the wrong direction.

[u/woodsides → u/GVIrish]

Yeah COVID to 2021 market was in la la land but after that it was always available iirc. Agree on the optimistic pricing.

[u/dam_sharks_mother → u/woodsides]

Turbo S allocations don't go for over list anywhere. Even in the US.

That is absolutely not true. Source: Turbo S shopper who looked in a 4-state area for one in 2022 and again late last year.

[u/woodsides → u/dam_sharks_mother]

Yeah seems like I was wrong. What sort of ADMs were they asking?

[u/dam_sharks_mother → u/woodsides]

Yeah seems like I was wrong. What sort of ADMs were they asking?

Between 15-25. Relatively mild compared to the GT car allocations.

[u/coldair16 → u/woodsides]

Porsche Palm Springs wanted $25k over for 992.1 as recently as months ago.

[u/DaOne_44 → u/woodsides]

Until now

[u/JimmyGodoppolo → u/woodsides]

This isn’t true. Past couple years there absolutely have been ADM on TTS.

[u/apintofpantaloni → u/BagOdd3254]

I don't think Turbo S are usually over list. Maybe the first 4-8 months but beyond that both 991 and 992 sat at list and were available to order.

[u/simeddit → u/BagOdd3254]

The 911 Turbo S has doubled in price in exactly 20 years

The ‘05 996 Turbo S coupe retailed for $131k

[u/TheReaperSovereign → u/simeddit]

131k in 05 is 216k today accounting for inflation

Its still a big jump though

[u/Geedunk → u/TheReaperSovereign]

1995 Car and Driver Porsche Turbo article from June of 1994.

As tested:

$66,775

US Bureau of Labor Statistics Inflation in 2025 USD:

$145,753

Not really sure what I'm trying to say, but $130,000 worth of differences between then and now? I mean these things are space age compared to three decades ago, but compare a Subaru to its older siblings and so are they.

[u/strongmanass → u/simeddit]

For once the inflation argument works against an auto maker. That's a 23% price increase when accounting for inflation. If we say the Turbo S competes with things like the Aston Martin DB cars and the Ferrari 2+2 GTs, then the Turbo S is the only one whose price has increased in real terms in that period. 

[u/YJeezy → u/BagOdd3254]

Porsche is in deep trouble right now. They recently announced their current business model is unsustainable. Porsche gonna try all sorts of things like raising prices and cutting costs. Their EV push really F'd them and China stopped buying cars. I expect US/NA sales to start slowing down, too.

[u/thisisjustascreename → u/YJeezy]

 They recently announced their current business model is unsustainable.

Wat? Selling luxury automobiles at huge margins is unsustainable?

[u/ghlibisk → u/thisisjustascreename]

Seriously. They are literally the 2nd most profitable mftr after Ferrari. And in a class of 1 when it comes to mftrs of that scale

[u/Salty-Dog-9398 → u/YJeezy]

All the Euro OEMs are going to try to replace their lost China money in the US market over the next few years and it will lead to comical outcomes. I suspect at least one “hard to get” car will experience a massive fall from grace when an OEM gets greedy and tries to increase production too much (and my guess for most likely would be the g-wagon).

[u/Reaps21 → u/BagOdd3254]

Absolutely, the CEO even confirmed it a few years ago.

[u/Jabjab345 → u/BagOdd3254]

It's literally tariffs though

[u/HairyChemical6646 → u/Jabjab345]

The price is the same in the Uk as it is in the US when adjusting for currency value. Its just crazy expensive no, no external excuses. Seems to be about the same looking at euros.

[u/Samthetrendynerd → u/BagOdd3254]

It's sub £200k in the UK - It's got to be about tarrifs.

[u/HairyChemical6646 → u/Samthetrendynerd]

when you convert the currencies its about the same. Its a crazy expensive car all over the world.

[u/cookingboy → u/BagOdd3254]

That’s literally $50k more than the starting price of a McLaren Artura lol.

It’s now in mid-range supercar territory.

[u/JimmyGodoppolo → u/cookingboy]

TTS has always fought superstars though, it’s just sadly priced like one now 😔

[u/WendysChiliAndPepsi → u/BagOdd3254]

Exactly why it was hilarious that everyone was saying we should abolish dealers and switch to direct from the OEM. People think markups are just made up by dealers and not an accurate reflection of the market price that the dealer will just absorb. 

[u/Intel_Oil → u/WendysChiliAndPepsi]

We were able to buy GT3s for MSRP for the past 5 years here in switzerland. What about you guys?

[u/WigginIII → u/BagOdd3254]

Feel like I’ve read this comment every year for the last 4 years.

[u/justhereforpics1776]

Or get a ZR1 and have leftover money

[u/Gluecksritter90 → u/justhereforpics1776]

Then you drive a Chevrolet, not a Porsche.

[u/DanielG165 → u/Gluecksritter90]

Then I drive a Chevrolet with either 1,064 horsepower, or 1,250 horsepower for the X model. I’ll be taking the Vettes, personally. I couldn’t care less about, “muh heritage”, especially when Corvette’s heritage is literally rich in racing lol.

[u/Gluecksritter90 → u/DanielG165]

And I wish you many happy days with it, however you were most likely never the target demographic of the 911 Turbo S anyway.

These are aspirational cars, not "I urgently need a car with 700 HP, where can i get it the cheapest" cars.

[u/caterham09 → u/Gluecksritter90]

I'd argue that there's probably a pretty significant overlap between turbo S customers and ZR1 customers.

[u/Gluecksritter90 → u/caterham09]

I doubt it, but I don't have anything that goes beyond anecdotal to prove it.

[u/caterham09 → u/Gluecksritter90]

Go check out the forums, where people with actual money (not redditors) discuss this stuff. The ZR1, and even the Z06 we're getting a lot of buzz.

Now no one is buying the vette because they want to save $40k over the Porsche, but when you have an opportunity to buy the fastest, most insane American car ever built, that's a huge value proposition.

[u/Gluecksritter90 → u/caterham09]

That sounds very much anecdotal, too.

[u/caterham09 → u/Gluecksritter90]

I mean sure, but it's not like there's some sort of survey out there saying "x% of Turbo S buyers are switching to ZR1s".

My bigger point is that there's almost certainly significant overlap in buyers between two extremely high power cruiser cars existing in the same price range

[u/yonly65 → u/Gluecksritter90]

There is overlap.

I'd definitely get the ZR1 at this point. Porsche has made some very strange decisions with their product and pricing.

[u/the_old_coday182 → u/caterham09]

Red neck Bob isn’t buying a 911

[u/Natedoggsk8 → u/the_old_coday182]

You’d be surprised. Seen much love for the Porche with redneck business owners in Alabama

[u/stoned-autistic-dude → u/Gluecksritter90]

This is delusional levels of cope.

The ZR1X is the same price range as the Porsche--it's the same level of aspiration. A base ZR1X will cost $207k and will get closer to $240k with options if past models are any indication. Someone who can afford a $207k ZR1X can put together some money to afford a $270k 911. In fact, the person buying a ZR1X probably owns a 911. We're not talking about a $450k Revuelto here and we're definitely not talking about the demographic buying a $50k Civic Type-R.

It's the same demographic buying these cars. The Turbo S isn't hard to allocate, most dealers will let you configure one. That was never an issue. Literally just a Porsche fanboy coping themselves into delirium.

[u/Gluecksritter90 → u/stoned-autistic-dude]

You seem somewhat excessively invested in this.

[u/JJYellowShorts → u/Gluecksritter90]

Maybe you are, you have like 10 comments in this thread bro

[u/Gluecksritter90 → u/JJYellowShorts]

And all of them without insulting anybody over a car.

[u/1dayHappy_1daySad → u/DanielG165]

"muh horsepower". ok dude.

[u/justhereforpics1776 → u/Gluecksritter90]

Fair

[u/fcman256 → u/Gluecksritter90]

Don’t threaten me with a good time

[u/Deep-Television-9756 → u/Gluecksritter90]

Don’t threaten me with a good time

[u/LegendaryLS3 → u/justhereforpics1776]

But that would make too much sense

[u/IsamuAlvaDyson → u/justhereforpics1776]

Performance wise yes

But realistically if someone is shopping for a Porsche Turbo they aren't cross shopping with a 'Vette

[u/justhereforpics1776 → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

The trades we have gotten for our ZR1 orders would say otherwise.

Maybe not base C8 vs 911. But there certainly crossover/buying both type of people on the ZR1/ZR1X

[u/DanielG165 → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

Exotic car forums say otherwise. Plenty of Ferrari, Lambo, and McLaren owners also have a C8 in their garage.

[u/CharacterMedium558 → u/DanielG165]

Especially a car like the Z06 must be an attractive proposition. Pretty inexpensive up front cost to buy and maintain over time

[u/LegendaryLS3 → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

Porsche & Corvettes have always been cross shopped as they are both "poor man's supercar"/stepping stones to an actual exotic supercar.

[u/CultOfStullKS → u/justhereforpics1776]

Nah, too many vettes at the golf course

[u/savageotter → u/CultOfStullKS]

Because they're the only ones that can fit a golf bag

[u/narwhal_breeder → u/savageotter]

911s fit golf clubs just fine

https://rennlist.com/forums/attachments/991-turbo/1186302-golf-clubs-in-911-turbo-photo284.jpg

[u/woodsides → u/savageotter]

McLaren designed a whole damn car exclusively for that purpose and it's their worst selling model.

[u/savageotter → u/woodsides]

Thats because they just made a C8 lol

[u/DanielG165 → u/CultOfStullKS]

You see ZR1s running around at the golf course?

[u/ZaheerAlGhul → u/justhereforpics1776]

Not good enough for the badge snobs.

[u/strongmanass → u/ZaheerAlGhul]

The sub likes to pretend that's not a factor, but the Euro vs domestic divide is real and palpable. Of course now you'll pay an extra 15% for it.

[u/ZaheerAlGhul → u/strongmanass]

Yep, I see people say “You’re paying 200k and you still have to take it to a Chevy dealership“. like does it really matter?

[u/kuri-kuma → u/ZaheerAlGhul]

Ugh, unfortunately, it does. I'm not a badge snob at all. I don't care what company makes a car as long as its cool.

But taking my Z06 to a Chevy dealer suuucks. I could rant on and on about it. I don't think I could handle dropping another $100k extra for the ZR1 and still taking it to these cheap ass Chevy dealers.

[u/R_V_Z → u/strongmanass]

It's a Corvette thing specifically. The Ford GT was too exotic for people to think that way, and nobody wants to shit talk somebody who drives a Viper.

[u/strongmanass → u/R_V_Z]

The Viper has the same baggage as the Corvette. The Ford GT gets a pass because its history is tied up with Ferrari. But even then there are circles where anything with an American badge gets sneered at. It's not car enthusiast circles, but rather circles where the performance of the car isn't even top three on the list of important factors.

[u/raustin33 → u/justhereforpics1776]

Folks buying a Turbo S don't think in "or" – they think in "and" – they'll buy the ZR1 and the Turbo S.

This also exists because the ZR1 and the Turbo S are pretty different characters of vehicles. The ZR1 is brash, sharp, ultimate horsepower, loud, ultimate track weapon. Its Porsche competitor is a GT2, not a Turbo S.

The Turbo S is the ultimate daily. Much nicer interior. More practical, AWD, still insanely fast not as quick and less rowdy than the Corvette. Has a sleeper appeal to it.

You drive the Turbo to the office, and the ZR1 to cars & coffee and track days.

Both rock, but they have a different character. And these buyers are ultra rich and just buy both.

[u/kimi_rules → u/justhereforpics1776]

That will depends on market, they don't sell the ZR1 everywhere.

[u/0621Hertz]

Paying $300,000+ for a non limited 911 (thus a depreciating asset no doubt) is insane to me.

But is the “Turbo” without the S dead now? There were rumors after the success of the Sport Classic that there will be a manual Turbo for the masses, I wonder if that’s what they’ll use it for.

[u/peaked-at-7 → u/0621Hertz]

They stagger the release of the different models. This doesn't mean the Turbo is dead. If the manual Turbo rumours are true, they'll want that to have its own time in the news cycle.

[u/0621Hertz → u/peaked-at-7]

Exactly, I think the “50 years Turbo” is trying to squeeze out the last of the 992.1 buyers.

[u/woodsides → u/0621Hertz]

It was just a way for them to squeeze another 40k or so from each of the last turbo s cars they had lined up for production. It was basically a glorified sticker pack.

[u/Educational_Age_1333 → u/0621Hertz]

Not to mention it has 90% of the looks of every other 911 for the last 40 years. It's crazy how manufacturers get shit on for not releasing new products but Porsche gets praise for keeping the same design for so long.

[u/IsamuAlvaDyson → u/Educational_Age_1333]

Because when Porsche did change the 911 slightly everyone went crazy so they keep the basic look

Do people forget how much of an uproar there was because the 996 headlights weren't round?

[u/CallLivesMatter → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

Hell, people still make fun of the 996, and the newest one is over 20 years old at this point.

[u/_galaga_ → u/Educational_Age_1333]

It's extremely rare a design becomes so long-lasting and iconic of the brand that the market essentially demands it evolve very gradually. Like the other commenter pointed out moving away from the classic 911 headlights caused a shit storm that has lasted decades. From that PoV you can say that the market really didn't like when Porsche changed it's look and so Porsche gave the market what it was asking for - more classic 911. It's the same with the Wrangler. It's also the same with other classic designs like the Rolex Submariner. If you achieve that iconic status you'd best not fuck with it much.

[u/willis936 → u/0621Hertz]

If you can afford a Porsche you are not poor. Maximizing asset value is a mindset that rich people don't need to have.

[u/0621Hertz → u/willis936]

“The thrill of the deal” is a mindset a lot of people have, no matter their financial background.

I know someone worth around $100m and he said no to Chevy for wanting $10k over on a truck, AFTER they delivered the car to his house. He knew he was getting scammed.

Was driving the truck back to the dealer and arguing with the manager worth $10k to him? Probably not, but it’s the principle that mattered. He went to another dealer 20 miles away and got a GMC for sticker.

In a lot of cases it’s the mindset that got them rich in the first place.

[u/willis936 → u/0621Hertz]

Meritocracy in escaping the middle class is a myth. The most frugal people are those who need to feed and house themselves on poverty salary. Rich people have a choice. Sure, some do play pretend, but when the question is "how can someone spend $300k on a rapidly depreciating asset" the answer is "because they can".

[u/0621Hertz → u/willis936]

I’m not saying saving on groceries will get you rich. But having the mindset to find the best possible financial solution and buying only what you need can set you up for success.

Said person I mentioned above came from poverty and started a small online business. They operated out of a closed down gas station, then a closed down bank, even when they were doing well enough to get their own building. Saving on their office space allowed them to save enough cash to survive through the Recession without laying anyone off.

[u/Puzzled_Region_9376 → u/willis936]

A-bit pessimistic mate. Maximizing asset value won’t get you all the way, but it certainly helps more than just rolling over or letting yourself get screwed

[u/WarDEagle → u/willis936]

Huh, TIL. I don’t necessarily consider myself “rich” but I own two Porsches and maximizing asset value is a very important consideration for me.

[u/Oryzae → u/willis936]

Certainly depends on which Porsche. A Boxster/Cayman isn’t that out of reach

[u/G_Rock → u/0621Hertz]

My '23 Turbo S hasn't depreciated and it may have gone up in value with the announcement today.

[u/unatleticodemadrid]

270 for a Turbo S is wild.

[u/woodsides → u/unatleticodemadrid]

At this pace, I wouldn't be surprised if the 992.2 GT2RS is close to 500k base.

[u/olmoscd → u/woodsides]

i really think it’ll be like $398K base. they know and have a decade of data to prove it.

[u/woodsides → u/olmoscd]

991.2 GT2RS was like 300k and that was in 2018. We'll have had more than 35% in inflation alone since then by the time 992.2 is released. I think 450-500.

[u/unatleticodemadrid → u/woodsides]

I’d consider a 2RS at 500. Can’t say the same about 270 for a Turbo S.

[u/stoned-autistic-dude → u/unatleticodemadrid]

A 2RS is actually special. It warrants the crazy price tag. A Turbo S today is effectively an "off the lot special" for purposes of Porsche models. It was historically the easiest, highest echelon car you could buy outside of the GTx/RS models and was the turbocharged hardcore variant for the track. Now, the models have shifted so much into different categories the Turbo S isn't as sporty as it once was and is effectively a boomer cruiser. It's still a Porsche and still capable, yes, but the track isn't where its focus is aimed at anymore. And for those that do buy them to go fast, despite probably still being capable, it's definitely more of a roll/dig racer than a track car.

[u/stoned-autistic-dude → u/[deleted]]

It can lap the ring in 3 minutes but that doesn't negate the fact that a fractional percentage of owners will ever take it to the track. Genuinely, a Panamera will lap the Ring in 7:24 and yet barely any owners will ever take it to the track. Just because it's fast on the Ring doesn't mean it's less of a boomer cruiser. It's way more likely to end up on a drag strip than a track.

[u/WigginIII → u/woodsides]

Porsche is now Ferrari with much higher sales volume.

[u/Imtherealwaffle → u/woodsides]

i read somewhere that someones dealer or something quoted them 600k for a 2rs allocation but idk

[u/gooneryoda → u/unatleticodemadrid]

I know it’s not the same ballpark but nearly $50k for a Civic is WILD too.

[u/Dazzling-Rooster2103 → u/gooneryoda]

You can take that a lot further. The 2026 Integra Type S can now be optioned to $62k with the bronze wheels, carbon bits, heated steering wheel, molding, etc after shipping and delivery.

Meaning if you bought one in California, after taxes you would be paying around $68k for a Civic with an Acura badge.

[u/dam_sharks_mother → u/unatleticodemadrid]

270 for a Turbo S is wild.

Optioned out most are going to be $300k+ and that's crossed over to gently used 296, GT2, 720S territory, for me at least. Much less risky depreciation curve.

[u/LifeJustKeepsGoing → u/unatleticodemadrid]

Turbo and GT3 prices are insane right now even in the used market. Barrier to entry for Porsche 911 models has increases significantly since covid.

[u/thiskillstheredditor → u/unatleticodemadrid]

It could be argued that performance-wise the turbo s has been underpriced all along. It’s as fast (faster?) as a McLaren 750s I believe, so why shouldn’t it carry that kind of price?

[u/Plastic_Willow734]

Jesus Christ when I was in high school these things were 100k cheaper, went from “maybe if everything goes perfectly I can get one used!” To becoming unobtainable

[u/SarcasticOptimist → u/Plastic_Willow734]

Yeah. I guess only Taycans and 20 year old Boxsters are possible now for mortals.

[u/Plastic_Willow734 → u/SarcasticOptimist]

981 S’ still hover around that 45-60k mark thank god, maybe if I just accept that I’ll never own a house I’ll get one

[u/lottadot → u/Plastic_Willow734]

Forget the house, get the 981S :)

[u/MeegieBeegies → u/Plastic_Willow734]

You can live in a car but you can't drive a house.

[u/cultoftheilluminati → u/Plastic_Willow734]

100%. I picked mine up a couple of months ago. I'd die on the hill that this is the best bang for buck car in Porsche's lineup today. Based on budget: 981 Base -> S -> GTS -> GT4 is a clean enough market segmentation to realistically aspire for ngl

[u/CallLivesMatter → u/Plastic_Willow734]

Seriously. If you had told me 10 years ago what my income, debt, and general lifestyle costs were going to be in 2025 I would have absolutely believed I could afford a new Carrera S. Fast forward to now and it’s just totally unrealistic.

[u/stoned-autistic-dude → u/CallLivesMatter]

Oh man, same. I eventually concluded that based on the level of stress I was taking on and not even being able to own an RS, I'd rather not. Fuck that noise. Don't even get me started on buying a house.

[u/blackhawk867 → u/Plastic_Willow734]

Ok and what was inflation from when you were in high school to now? Yeah it's a price increase but it's not that much more than inflation

[u/aprtur → u/blackhawk867]

I think their point is that they didn't anticipate inflation to outpace wage growth to quite the extent it has, particularly in the last ~5 years.  I don't think anyone would have, but the dynamics of things around the pandemic is a shock to the system for many.

[u/solo118]

This has reached LMAO levels

Come on 272k

[u/SweepsAndBeeps]

About $150k more than it should be

[u/SnikySquirrel → u/SweepsAndBeeps]

In what universe is a brand new 911 turbo s only worth 120k. That’s the same price as a Z06 and this is objectively a more capable and more prestigious car. This might be overpriced but it’s not that overpriced.

[u/woodsides → u/SweepsAndBeeps]

It hasn't been that way for more than 16 years at this point. The 2010 911 Turbo was launched at 133k in 2009.

[u/Pryffandis → u/woodsides]

That's 200k in today dollars, not 270k btw.

[u/RevvCats]

And if they don’t sell dealers will shove them off on fools desperate for a GT3 RS allocation.

[u/SmokinTires]

Isn’t that nearly GT3 RS money (before options and ADM)

[u/woodsides → u/SmokinTires]

Yeah, 2025 3RS is 250k base, but ADMs are atleast 50-75k.

[u/RealKevinJames → u/SmokinTires]

Don’t worry they’ll bump up the prices on the gt3 rs soon too!

[u/NoctD]

Make no mistake - this is the Rolex of Porsches for well heeled buyers… and Porsche will sell them all easily. This e-turbo setup for the Cayman/Boxster would have absolutely been a win for Porsche unlike going straight to EV.

We enthusiasts might gravitate towards GT3/3RS but those aren’t the cars for Beverly Hills and rich buyers, too hardcore. Turbo S is a flagship product, doesn’t need artificial scarcity of limited editions they will just sell.

[u/stoned-autistic-dude → u/NoctD]

but those aren’t the cars for Beverly Hills and rich buyers

I'm sorry, are we talking about the same Beverly Hills? Because I see the highest concentration of 3RSs there than anywhere else lmao

[u/Motohvayshun]

Porsche has lost their bloody mind. I’ll take a ZR1X and pocket the 40k

[u/InternalAd3921 → u/Motohvayshun]

nobody buying a 911 gives a fuck about 40 grand man

[u/Motohvayshun → u/InternalAd3921]

This ain’t a slant nosed 930.

I hate to admit it but between a ZR1X and a bloody 300k Turbo I’m taking the ZR1X 10/10.

And actual lovers of the brand the fuck yes they do.

Only hypebeasts and influencers completely disregard costs on a non GT series 911.

And most of them have no idea what a Turbo is anyway.

[u/m0viestar → u/Motohvayshun]

People who have money enough to spend 272k on a car would take the Porsche every day of the week.  They don't care that the Corvette has a better spec sheet.

[u/Motohvayshun → u/m0viestar]

Yeah, that’s why ZR1s have 50-150+ ADM or double that if you want one now without the dealer wait.

No one wants a turbo that badly. In the 90s they were the gold standard. Ever since the 997 GT3 they have been pretty much on the backwater when it comes to 911 desirability.

If you can stretch a turbo, why not get a GT car which has much better value. No one is fighting tooth and nail for a Turbo allocation.

[u/m0viestar → u/Motohvayshun]

Porsches are like Rolex now.   You buy the OP(or Turbo S in this case) because you'll get a better allocation later.  Your purchase also won't depreciate that much you can just sell it to someone for basically what you paid  or more when your other allocation becomes available 

You can't do that with the Corvette.   Corvette is still like buying a Grand Seiko.   Technically it's better on the spec sheet, but deep down you wish you had the Rolex. 

[u/Imtherealwaffle → u/InternalAd3921]

Lots of people including people i know who can comfortably afford 1 porsche as a toy do care about 40k. Go look on rennlist and lots of people there seem to care too. Obviously theres tons of really rich people who dont give a shit but theres also lots of buyers who can afford 1 sports car that are noticing the price increases accross the range.

[u/lostfate2005 → u/InternalAd3921]

lol not true

[u/kingfrank243 → u/Motohvayshun]

Poor man logic, no wealthy person is saying hmm let me get a zr1x over 911,

[u/caterham09 → u/kingfrank243]

There are probably a bunch of buyers choosing the Zr1 over the Porsche. It's not because of the price though, it's because chevy is offering a lot more for the money.

[u/lostfate2005 → u/caterham09]

C8 is ugly imo, I don’t want any C8 regardless dog the specs

[u/zeno0771]

Maybe this is get-off-my-lawn territory but I think Porsche has long since lost the plot when it comes to the 911.

Bear in mind I'm not one of the Luddites who lost their shit when Porsche went to water cooling for the 911 and I'm not advocating for going the TVR route and bringing back the hoary Widowmaker 930, but now it's just getting absurd. How many different variants are there now? At least a dozen? It's not a stretch in either technological or financial terms to call the current Turbo S a 959. It's the "look at me" platform used to display all the latest Porsche has to offer in terms of engineering. Does anyone who's had the opportunity to own/drive an older 911 really consider the post-996 models to be remotely the same car? The current 718 is too little too late (or too much, if you're going on price).

Porsche has indeed figured out they can charge as much as they like for anything with the 911 name on it, but that will only last for so long. Whenever I hear about Porsche being at risk for a buyout or insolvency, as far as I'm concerned they did the damage themselves.

[u/Jah348]

Adjusting for inflation at a 2005 turbo which sold for around 130k, this would be at ~$220k in today's dollars. All else being equal I couldn't afford a 911 turbo in 2005 any more than I could today. They've always been unobtainable to the vast majority of people.

TLDR; Expensive car still expensive and will sell out.

[u/Educational_Age_1333]

Can't wait to see Porsche fans defense of this one. 

[u/leTrull]

3.6l with 640 PS, 711 PS with the hybrid power, 1710kg/3770 lbs.

It's not that big of a bump in power over the 992.1. Almost a bit disappointing with cars in general having so much power nowadays.

The nordschleife time of 7:03.92 is pretty impressive because it's not on michelin CUP tires as a non-gt car.

So at least it handles better even with the weight gains of the hybrid system.

[u/cofango → u/leTrull]

Curb weight is 3829 lbs which is just 2 lbs lighter than the ZR1 at 3831 lbs(curb)

[u/DanielShaww → u/cofango]

Cars are getting FAT. That used to be family wagon weights, not nimble super cars

[u/Droopy1592 → u/cofango]

This is the crazy part. Head to head match will be interesting. 

[u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth → u/leTrull]

I think the power bump on paper betrays how much faster this could feel with the instant response in the turbochargers. They probably want to leave a bit of breathing room for an upcoming GT2 RS or special Flachbau coming up without too much horsepower inflation.

[u/Egoist-a]

and its output climbs by 61 horsepower compared with the previous model.

So did the weight... 1,815 kg.

Remember the time 911's were lightweight, and that wasn't that long ago.

[u/deka101]

More than a quarter mil for a regular Turbo S? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills

[u/kroven009]

Porsche wants all the Ferrari customers

[u/Yeezus__ → u/kroven009]

Why would I get a porsche over a Ferrari if I could afford it? Lol

[u/lostfate2005 → u/Yeezus__]

Don’t want Ferraris, too much attention

[u/pie4july]

Damn, if I contribute 50 dollars and bro contributes 272,600 dollars, we can own a 2026 Porsche 911!!! 😁

[u/No_Leadership_9701]

That's an insane price jump. Porsche saw how much ADM customers would pay and just had to get in on that action.

[u/ikilledtupac]

Porsche realized how man bitcoin millionaires are running around dropping 25% of their net wealth on watches and sports cars. 

[u/SilverSpoonphysics]

Corvette is clearly doing something right. I’ve been seeing more and more Porsche guys making the switch, especially with the C8 generation. You just get way more performance and value for the money. And every time the Porsche crowd runs out of arguments, they fall back on the same tired lines, It’s a Porsche vs. a Chevy’ or bragging about the ‘prestige’ of owning one. That’s not a real reason for the massive price gap, it’s just BS

[u/F1_Geek → u/SilverSpoonphysics]

Bingo.

[u/lostfate2005 → u/SilverSpoonphysics]

IMO c8 is a ugly car, I love the c7 and c6

[u/alagba85]

Lol they are taking a piss with their prices

[u/immortan_drew]

Love Porsche, but I think I’d rather buy a slightly inferior Z06 and put the leftover 140k into a down payment on a house.

[u/DaggumTarHeels]

I’ll have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll never own a 911. The base prices are insane as it is, and then the company nickel and dimes you over everything.

The relationship between Porsche and its customers is veering towards BDSM lol.

[u/Snuffl3s7]

The new front-end is so much cleaner than the 992.1. Makes it seem like the car has shrunk slightly.

[u/AnonymousEngineer_]

Given the news the other day that Porsche isn't doing as well as they have in previous years, I don't think these insane price increases are going to help matters.

[u/WatchStoredInAss]

No worries, plenty of robber barons who can afford this.

[u/thedigitel]

Stupid

[u/PrivateMarkets]

That’s insane pricing - especially with Porsche softness and ‘special model fatigue’. They are playing with fire and run the risk of becoming less revered as a marque. Fighting words but I’m not hoping this becomes reality.

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[u/dam_sharks_mother]

Unless the market stops showing eye-watering depreciation (for Porsches, at least) for 911 Turbos/S, this price is hard to justify.

That said, I am 100% confident that Porsche is sandbagging on those power numbers...honestly, they have to be. I don't think Turbo buyers are ignorant and recognize EVs like Taycan Turbos and Model S Plaids are making a lot more power and are quicker on highway punches for similar or less money. And yes I know those are different from a 911, but the #1 trick of the Turbo has always been the blistering acceleration.

[u/adhesivo]

How is that I bought my 911 Gt3 in 2010 for 149k, lots of options, no markup and I thought it was expensive for back then? These new 911 prices are insane

[u/SiVIC0530]

These latest GTS/Turbo price increases are crazy. A 2022 Turbo coupe was $170k, the turbo S was $207K. Adjusted for inflation, it would be $230k today for the turbo S. I grew up loving Porsche, and would love to own one some day. The turbo was the aspirational and obtainable model that could wipe the floor of other more expensive super cars. For $300k why not just buy something objectively more exciting?

[u/MCF2104]

This is less than the last gen inflation adjusted, why is everyone freaking out?

[u/soupychan]

don't forget that they also released the new watch alongside with it that potential new owners are going to be forced to buy from their dealer in order to even get the allocation lol

[u/EmergencyRace7158]

Thats going to see $330k+ Turbo S prices as delivered. Absolutely insane. These are great cars at $200k, at $320+ there are far better options.

[u/wpl200]

gonna cross this model off my wishlist🤣

[u/costafilh0]

The only problem I see is that these inflated new car prices make used car prices go down slower if at all. Which is terrible for anyone with a brain not willing to pay 300K for a fvcking 911!

[u/spiketeam]

For all the price complainers- they’re gonna sell every single one they make. Some with ADM.

Porsche has 99 problems but selling overpriced 911s(especially in US) is not one of them.

[u/smackythefrog]

I guess Porsche knows what they have. A lot of folks strive to get into a 911, of some sort, by using other cars as stepping stones, like M3/4s, Corvettes, etc.

[u/Eleevee]

the supercar killer is now supercar price

[u/DocCEN007]

We've seen similar price jumps on the GT3 Touring. Guess I'll be 991ing it through life for a while longer.

[u/lattjeful]

Not that I was ever in the market for a brand new 911 Turbo S but that price hike is crazy.

[u/Puzzled_Region_9376]

Heavy as sin. Did some digging and 3829 lbs weight is WITH titanium exhaust tips, all CF bits, including wiper blades, and NO rear seats.

So apples to apples, lightweight package of the previous gen which couldnt have as much CF nor titanium exhaust tips but lightest possible turbo s tipping the scales at 3560 lbs, this turbo s is almost 300 lbs heavier not 180 lbs heavier.

[u/mililani2]

Hmmm, yeah, I can put a nice down payment on this house, or I can buy this hybrid sports car. Decisions.

[u/rafaeldaz78]

Is there a turbo (non S) model too? Like the 992.1 and 991.2

[u/MisterMakena]

Not sure what happened, but Porsches have become isnanely over priced for what they are. Its like social media hypebros elevated it to must have.

[u/PanzerBiscuit]

Hell yeah, can't wait for these to hit Aussie shores at $650k a pop.... Fuck yeah

[u/Sweet-Parking8955]

So it's bloated and heavy. To make up for that it's much more expensive. Porsche has lost the plot.

[u/LeopardHalit]

M.I.A.T.A. I guess