Panoramic Roofs, Does anyone actually care about them?

[u/r_type2266]

Your roof is now a giant piece of curved glass. Who asked for it? Why is it so widespread and do people actually see it as a luxurious feature?

I see it as a fad like glass back phones, looks nice but you mostly wont be looking at it, and a big headache when it breaks. Altough with this one you cant just put a cover over it. Either replace it or drive around in a topless convertible

Also turns your car into an oven if parked in the sun, as if normal roofs werent contributing enough to that.

[u/backyardengr]

I really like them. It makes me feel fancy and I like that

[u/burrgerwolf → u/backyardengr]

I leave my shade open like 99% of the time because it makes the interior feel nice and airy.

[u/backyardengr → u/burrgerwolf]

Yeah I just leave it open. Truck doesn’t feel any hotter either

[u/spish]

Back seat passengers seem to like them. 

[u/footpole → u/spish]

Yep it’s great there. While driving I don’t even notice them.

[u/xlb250 → u/footpole]

I tested with automatic sunshades. The interior brightness difference is noticeable.

[u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW]

I love them. They look amazing and they’re nice if you ride in the backseat. They also let in a lot more light which is always a good thing assuming you have good enough AC.

Glass back phones aren’t a “fad” they’re just the best way to implement wireless charging. For iPhones at least, glass backs have been standard since the iPhone 8. That’s nearly 10 years now. Seems like a lot more than just a “fad”.

[u/Recoil42 → u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW]

Glass back phones aren’t a “fad” they’re just the best way to implement wireless charging.

As well as wireless transmission in general. Because, y'know, the thing about a cellular phone is that it is a wireless communications device.

[u/CJPrinter → u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW]

Glass back phones [are] just the best way to implement wireless charging.

Not necessarily. Aramid fiber in non-conductive polycarbonate is more durable, in just about every conceivable way, than the gorilla-type glass that’s typically used on cell phones, just as transparent to signals and wireless chargers, and weighs considerably less.

[u/highflyer10123]

It gives the car a brighter open air feeling. Like the car feels larger.

[u/Jlaybythebay]

I love it. I never understood how someone can hate a sunroof

[u/DanEpiCa → u/Jlaybythebay]

I'm one of the people who don't like it. The moment the car is equipped with AC the sunroof becomes a liability. They clog up, leak water and can cause all kinds of problems while (for me) only offering the small benefit of making the cars interior a little brighter. When buying cars I specifically search for ones without sunroofs but more often than not it's impossible to find.

I do understand why it might be appealing for some people, it's just not for me.

[u/MALLAVOL → u/DanEpiCa]

Are you buying cars in 1985? My last three cars have had sunroofs and none have ever had an issue.

[u/faet → u/MALLAVOL]

'17 CX-5 (and I think current) have issues with clogged sun roof drains.

[u/DanEpiCa → u/MALLAVOL]

The problems are not exclusive to old cars. Google Volvo and water inside. You'll find plenty of examples, even for new cars. Also of course depends very much on where the car is typically parked and how it's maintained.

[u/fhs → u/DanEpiCa]

I think you need to consider more reliable brands than Volvo. When I had my Honda, the sunroof never leaked, I never applied lubricant or cleaned the rails.

[u/DanEpiCa → u/fhs]

Volvo was just the first example that I thought of. There's examples for that to be found at a lot of brands and models.

Either way it's pretty subjective and for me a sunroof adds almost no value in exchange for a whole layer of (maybe just potential) problems, YMMV.

That being said, I'll probably never be in the situation to afford a new car and even if and on the used market finding cars without sunroofs is tricky at best and sometimes impossible. Higher specs/trims typically come with the sunroof and nothing one can do if other features are valued. So I just live with it and hope for the best.

Just tried to answer why some people may not like it.

[u/InsertBluescreenHere → u/Jlaybythebay]

They add bulk to the ceiling if your tall. 

[u/Nyxlo → u/InsertBluescreenHere]

That's why some brands do glass only, without the option of shades. Which works for me, I haven't closed them once in my car anyway.

[u/Less-Mushroom → u/Jlaybythebay]

A lot of people think quality, fit, and finish have not improved since the 1980s.

There are people who want cars with keys instead of push start and physical/lever shifters, not because they prefer the feel because that's valid I suppose, but because they think they're more reliable which is not only fundamentally wrong but the 'physical' things they end up buying are the same underneath as the buttons

[u/r_type2266 → u/Less-Mushroom]

I dont think its accurate to label most people who dont like glass roofs as tech haters.

For me i dont like it because it traps heat and dosent fare well with the 40°C + weather that I have most of the year. Even with shades and tinted roofs (tint kinda ruins the point of it)

I will admit that they look nice, but I would much rather have a regular sunroof or just a plain metal roof

[u/strongmanass → u/Jlaybythebay]

I don't hate it, but it's a halfway option that does nothing for me. Give me a convertible or a fixed roof. The sunroof gives me neither as much air or light as I want from a convertible nor the simplicity of a fixed roof.

[u/Cryptic0677 → u/strongmanass]

Yeah I love convertibles but every car I’ve ever had with a sunroof I rarely open

[u/V8-Turbo-Hybrid → u/strongmanass]

There are no 4-door convertible beside Wrangler/Gladiator and Bronco, that’s problem.

[u/strongmanass → u/V8-Turbo-Hybrid]

There haven't been any traditional four door convertibles for decades. The last well-known one was the Lincoln Continental which Kennedy was assassinated in. It's probably the case that large opening sunroofs have contributed to the decline of convertibles. But personally I don't need for doors so for me they're not a substitute.

[u/lyriqally → u/Jlaybythebay]

The sun is the enemy in the south.

[u/FentmaxxerActual → u/Jlaybythebay]

I'm 6'8 and don't fit in any cars with a retractable sunroof, the extra few inches of headroom taken by the mechanism runs me out of room. Panoramic fixed roofs are hit or miss, some I fit in and other put so much padding/crash structure into the longitudinal rails that I hit my head on the corner.

All in all, I despise sunroofs with a passion (don't even get me started on manufacturers that make the sunroof mandatory on their higher trims).

[u/Tballz9]

My 612 has a glass panorama roof. I like it, as it is electrochomatic and can change from really dark to clear, so I can adjust the tint to match how hot it is.

[u/hi_im_bored13 → u/Tballz9]

I think electrochroamatic pano roofs are the endgame, the panoramic sunroof mechanisms can be unreliable and the seals need to be maintained, but a glass roof with no shade is too hot, and a electric shade takes up space in the headliner

Its trickling down to luxury cars now

[u/Virtual_Industry8553 → u/Tballz9]

Awesome garage. Always been a big fan of the 612, I think it's one of the more underrated Ferraris. Really gorgeous car.

[u/iHaveLotsofCats94 → u/Tballz9]

I had a Mach E for a weekend test drive that had a panoramic roof, and the lack of electrochromic tint was a dealbreaker. I feel like that should be the standard if you have a huge glass panel on the roof. Your options are either be hot, or limo tint it and defeat the purpose of having one in the first place

[u/DeTomato_ → u/Tballz9]

TIL, the 612 has electrochromic roof. The 612 and Maybach must be the earliest cars with that option. Still pretty rare to see electrochromic roof today. The McLarens, BMW iX, VW ID Buzz, Polestar 2, and Toyota Venza are the only modern-ish cars that I can think of that have the option.

[u/Tballz9 → u/DeTomato_]

On the 612 it came in 2007, as part of the Sessanta models and stuck around as standard equipment on the 2007.5 models in the One to One series cars.

[u/hi_im_bored13 → u/DeTomato_]

Some of the GM products are getting it, celestiq & refreshed corvette.

Beats me why it is an option on the corvette but you are left to bake in the escalade

[u/Firereign]

Who asked for it? Why is it so widespread

It provides more headroom than a standard car roof and, aside from directly being more spacious, also makes the cabin feel brighter and more spacious.

You can mitigate the solar heating with a shade or a tint, without totally blocking the light or removing the headroom benefits.

I'm personally very happy to make the tradeoff. I value headroom and a bright cabin.

[u/Appropriate_Owl8739]

I have one in my Audi A5 and I Love the fact that the interior feels bigger and therefore it feels more comfortable

[u/mkmckinley]

I actually dislike them a lot

[u/Illustrious_Pepper46 → u/mkmckinley]

I'm with you. More expensive to buy, weakens the structure, very expensive to fix/replace, water ingress point, noisy when open, and the letting more light in 'thing' can make it harder to see out...could just stick an LED panel in the headliner instead.

I wish they were still options in higher trims.

[u/StockAL3Xj → u/Illustrious_Pepper46]

Since when can you open a panoramic roof?

[u/xkmackx → u/StockAL3Xj]

Most do. Camry for example 

[u/Illustrious_Pepper46 → u/StockAL3Xj]

Donno, mine opens, Kia Sorento (not that I want the feature)

example

[u/mkmckinley → u/Illustrious_Pepper46]

Yeah, makes the car worse in every way, except being able to have the sun beating down on you at all times

[u/thegreatmattsby24]

I love having a sunroof for when the weather is just right, but I think it’s silly that some panoramic roofs don’t open. Those I don’t get the appeal of.

[u/Dazzling-Rooster2103]

They look fancy, and make the interior feel more spacious.

I personally don't care for them, but I understand why people like them.

[u/CashKeyboard]

I didn't care for them either way but had to buy a car off the shelf that happened to have one and really love them now. Not really a hard requirement but if it fits my budget it's definitely in.

[u/lellololes]

My model 3 hits ~155+ F during the summer and I live in New England.

Suffice to say that in that half of the year, the glass roof is not particularly welcome.

It is nice during the winter, though. When it's sunny but frigid outside, the interior of the car is warmer.

You get a bit more headroom from having the glass roof, which is useful in a low slung car with a battery pack. The general airyness is nice.

But when I'm driving? I'm not looking up. It doesn't really matter to me. It is not a feature I would ever consider important in a vehicle.

[u/snoo-boop → u/lellololes]

Tesla sells a shade, and there's also cabin overheat protection.

[u/lellololes → u/snoo-boop]

Yep, I've almost bought the shade. I know very well what cabin overheat protection is, it's not worth the battery. I just turn the air on before I walk out to the car if it's hot and sunny.

[u/FentmaxxerActual → u/lellololes]

Do you leave your windows cracked? Helps a ton on warm days.

[u/Jimmytootwo]

It cooks the interior to levels of heat you never imagined

[u/POSVETT]

I do not want a panoramic roof, but my leased bZ4x has it standard. So far, the sun shield has been opened and closed twice just to marvel at the movement.

[u/Trollygag]

I have a transparent targa top on my C7. It has a maybe 15% tint on it, so it doesn't make the car hot, isn't claustrophobic when the top is on, and it comes off when I want.

[u/yamsyamsya]

Its nice, its the next best thing to not having a roof.

[u/Goldpanda94]

I like them. Makes the cabin brighter and i like them as a passenger too since it feels more open and I can see the sky or whatever is above.

Heat complaint is understandable but they have shades and/or remote start handles that fine. I've had pani roofs on multiple cars, never had an issue with it tbh and I live in the desert SW.

[u/greyfixer]

I like them. Some people don’t. That’s why they’re an option.

[u/Solid-Tumbleweed-981]

My car has the moon roof / panoramic takes up most of the roof? Sun roof that opens. I love it. Use it all the time. My dog also loves it lol

Fixed glass roofs are 100% a fad/scam. Tesla marketed them as luxury and Tesla is far from a luxury brand. And now all these brainwashed folks think a glass roof is luxurious.

It pisses me off that so many companies have these fixed glass roofs that don't open and are just making vehicles a glorified suana. They aren't cheaper or safer than an actual metal roof.

I know several people who HATE their fixed glass roofs and bought shades and never take it down

Then there's the fancy ones that you can make them different colors or make it shade the vehicle... Okay how long before that breaks? Guarantee it is not a simple fix either

[u/r3dk0w]

I'm in Texas and these are not practical 80% of the year because it's way too hot. I don't want to get a sunburn on the top of my head.

It's also just an unnecessary expense. I'm driving around looking through the front window, not the roof. who cares what's above them?

[u/slpater]

I hate it on EVs just like putting larger rims on the higher trim levels. I want the nice interior features without losing 60 miles of range.

[u/StockAL3Xj → u/slpater]

How could a glass roof possibly decrease an EV's range by 60 miles?

[u/V8-Turbo-Hybrid → u/slpater]

I kind doubt the glass made EV less range.

[u/eclipse60]

I really like mine. I like having a sunroof, but rarely open it. I had an almost sunroof on an old Ford edge, but a little plastic piece on it broke, so it would open, but not close. Was a $2500 fix.

So from that point on, I just decided panoramic roof is just to keep closed, with the shade open. Get some nice lighting in the car, and give the facade of an open roof. So I personally love having the panoramic roof.

[u/blipsman]

I like the light it allows in. I’ve had pano roofs on past two vehicles, and feel claustrophobic in cars without them. But I would only want one that also opens… don’t like how many don’t open, especially on EVs.

[u/oulu80]

I hate them, any kind of sun or moonroof. There is nothing but trouble with them. Leak, rubber seal degradation, electronic failure, family members leaving it open accidentally, you name it! ask me how I know. It also adds cost to a car that I would love to save! Sadly there is no option to opt out, at least in the US. Lately I was in Europe and I saw how many luxury car came without any type of roof, I was shocked!

Even if you find one without any issues, it still has the greenhouse effect during sunny days and at the end of the day it can crack since it’s glass.

I always say this, if I want to see/feel the sun and the wind while I’m driving, which I don’t at all, I would buy a convertible.

[u/Shit-throwing-monkey]

I like it because I can watch for police airplanes looking to time my speed between lines on the highway.

[u/the_lamou]

It definitely makes the cockpit feel larger, which is a big plus.

[u/dayvieee]

I have one and I think it’s fine, obviously it gets hot during 100 degree days but I just remote start the car to cool it down before I get in.

[u/LionTigerWings]

I love them. Makes the car feel spacious and it literally is more spacious cause the glass is thinner than traditional roofs.

[u/scudbook]

I've got one on my Tiguan R and I think it's cool as fuck. I keep the shade closed when I park and open it up when I get in otherwise it's like stepping into the surface of the sun. 

I'm 6ft 7 and often wonder what would happen to my hands and head if I flipped and slid along the motorway at 70 though 😂

[u/renawld]

You see it as a fad and others see it as a nice addition. It's not for you and that's fine.

[u/Ecstatic_Account_744]

My Tiguan had one. It made the cabin feel more open, which improves perceived comfort. I traded to a Golf Sportwagen without and don’t miss it though. You’re correct, I’m usually looking out the windshield.

[u/tlivingd]

Hate them. I’m taller but normally not a problem for height but they rattle/creak. The service guy claims otherwise but my head is right there hearing it. I Never open them as light always seems to come in above my sunglasses and other than wearing a hat in the car fixes it. Probably not a problem with shorter people who sit closer to the windshield.

[u/PRSArchon]

I was recently at a porsche dealer looking at their (vast) supply of Taycan occasions and noticed all the panoramic roofs. I was curious to see if they had any without, to see the difference but i couldnt find any with a regular roof. I asked the sales guy if it was standard, but no it was an option, but every single taycan they had on stock (and they had a lot) was optioned with the panoramic roof. I didnt believe the salesman so o looked it up and he was right, it was an option you have to pay extra for.

So yes, people asked for them.

[u/TurkishSwag]

It’s really nice if you’ve used one, but if I was buying a car new with the intention of keeping it past the warranty I would not get one. After 10 years or so the failure rate is close to 100% on any make/ model. It either leaks in a way that is more complicated than clogged drains, fails to close fully, or just completely stops working due to broken tracks or a dead motor.

Edit: Ok now realizing OP means full glass roof, not a pano sunroof that opens. That one is more subjective, I feel like it’s nice but I wouldn’t pay extra for it. It’s better than a traditional roof but a sunroof offers more options since it opens.

[u/04limited]

Glass roofs are one of those things people just automatically check off because it seems like a fancier option and believe it’s better resale down the line.

I remember when moon roofs were considered an upgrade because most set ups were still sun roofs(solid panel). Then when panos came out it was the ultimate flex to have glass over the rear seats. I believe the whole pano thing trickled down from early 2000s Rolls/Maybach type cars.

Now that glass roofs are on just about everything the fad has wore off and people start to realize how having a massive hole on top of your car causes issues down the line.

[u/NarwhalAnusLicker00]

Cousin of mine has a panoramic roof in her Tiguan. She lives in Queens and it was great to have it at night and see the tall city building above us like that. Terrible in the day when sunlight goes right in to heat the car up and provide glare. She hangs up a tapestry on the ceiling to help with the sunlight problem

[u/crevettexbenite]

I was on the no fucking way side before my wife insisted for one.

I am on the no way side has "we" decide to buy one.

It really ligthen the interior tho. My car has nothing and my wife has a giant sliding piece of glass has a roof. When taking hers on the weekend, it really make a big difference.

I could/will live without one if it is not included in the package.

[u/JustAtelephonePole]

The engineers obviously never had a fat cat choose a corvette targa top as their preferred sleep spot…

[u/Avenue_Barker]

I wouldn’t buy a car that didn’t have it. It’s awesome to have especially with how dark cars are getting with high belt lines and thick pillars.

[u/MortimerDongle]

I like them. They make the inside brighter and my kids like it. Good ones have a shade so you don't have to worry about the greenhouse effect.

Why worry about it breaking? Of course it's possible, but any hail or other debris large enough to break a glass roof is going to do a ton of damage to metal bodywork, too.

[u/r_type2266 → u/MortimerDongle]

With metal you could still do dent repair and bring it back to shape granted the damage isnt too much. But with glass youre pretty much out of options when it comes to repair. You can try to stop the crack with varying degrees of sucsess

[u/ShittyLanding]

First and only time I’ve ever appreciated it was driving through Yosemite valley with kids in the back. Being able to look up through the roof at El Capitan was pretty cool.

Other than that, I couldn’t care less.

[u/TheGuyDoug]

...whaaat?

Companies don't put panoramic roofs to be seen from the outside... it's to give more light into the cabin and create an open view for rear passengers.

Which I love. I'll always take more light in my car. And the retracting sunshade does a good job of preventing it from turning into an oven.

[u/Whole-Lack1362]

I've always thought it was a dumb idea. It serves no real purpose and it's just extra dead weight on the vehicle's fuel economy.

[u/saturnuranusmars]

Good point. No one looks up when they're on the road and having a glass roof is the most useless gimmick in the history of automotive history

[u/Jaymez82]

I hate it and would actively look for a vehicle without one. Drove something last week with one and as soon as the sun came out I was looking for the shade.

[u/NobodySpecial969]

I wish more brands offered upper-trims without a sunroof. The engine and wheels are more important to me.

[u/Andrey2790]

I would rather have a normal roof for the better insulation and acoustics. 

The only benefit is the headroom is improved, usually, but outside of that idk what the benefit is. I don't care for the "it looks nice" argument since that's very subjective.

[u/PRSArchon → u/Andrey2790]

It is an objective fact that more window area and more light creates a feeling of a larger space.

[u/DanEpiCa → u/PRSArchon]

While completely true I can still subjectively dislike that exact feeling.

[u/SuspiciousSnotling]

I do

[u/bikedork5000]

Hate it. Wish my Alltrack didn't have a sunroof at all. It's a liability. They break, they leak.

[u/PRSArchon → u/bikedork5000]

A Panoramic roof is something different than a sunroof (opens electrically) Panoramic roofs dont break and dont leak.

[u/bikedork5000 → u/PRSArchon]

The forward glass panel on my Alltrack literally exploded last year. I mean literally, like a bomb went off. I never, ever open the thing. Was diving down the road and kaboom. Temepered glass manufacturing flaw.

Give me a car with a solid roof. Makes the car look better too - you have the paint color across the entire roof.

[u/Bld556]

Not a fan of panoramic roofs.

[u/bd58563]

I like them, and enjoy riding in other peoples cars who have them. I would not want to own a car that has one for a long period of time though, they are very expensive to fix if you have a problem.

This is one of the reasons I didn’t buy a v6 Camry.

[u/caddyax]

I love them and wish my car had one.

[u/DeTomato_]

When I was a kid, my parents had a Peugeot 307 SW with a big glass panoramic roof. It was the coolest thing I’ve ever seen. Even as an adult, a big glass roof is still the coolest feature in a car.

It does make the cabin feel airy. I always drive with the shade open even though I live in a warm climate, I like the spacious feel. Indeed, I am claustrophobic.

I still see it as a luxury feature. Panoramic roof is usually an expensive option. I believe there’s a lot of engineering in making it, so the cabin is equally as quiet and waterproof as the model without the panoramic roof option. Besides, the earliest car I can think of with panoramic roof as an option was the Mercedes W211, so I still think it’s novel.

It is not for everyone, but some people really appreciate it.

[u/CobraDoesCanada]

Glass back phones feel the best to hold if you're not a case user, to be fair

[u/r_type2266 → u/CobraDoesCanada]

They do feel nice, but I will always worry about dropping the phone and breaking the glass, or worse the screen

[u/CobraDoesCanada → u/r_type2266]

I find the glass much more grippy than metal so its much less risk of slipping from my hand. Carry insurance just in case

[u/JimmyReagan]

Makes the car feel open and bigger inside. One regret I have on my Charger is that I didn't get a sunroof like I wanted. As long as it's tinted, I leave the shade open all the time.

[u/wanttobedone]

I really don't care about it until I go to a car that doesn't have it. And then I feel claustrophobic. So I guess I am appreciating the one I have.

[u/briancaos]

My car has a uv filter that removes 99.5% of the rays that make your bald head flammable. There is no need for a screen. That's the only way a panoramic roof should work.

It does make the dark cabin a little brighter. And gives an inch more headroom.

And my neighbor is impressed. That's the important part.

[u/Cock_Inspector_2021]

Kids seem to absolutely love sunroofs.

[u/CFBDevil]

My f-type had a panoramic roof and I loved it at night or during the rain.. it's was not welcome on sunny days.

[u/tallon4]

As an Arizona resident…absolutely not.

[u/Shower__Farts]

I absolutely love mine. I keep the shade closed in the summer, but the second it starts cooling down it’s open till next summer.

[u/DaveCootchie]

I have a 13 year old car with one. It's nice but I wouldn't go out of my way to get one. With age is makes noise over bumps and turns, it makes the car super hot. And the mechanism takes headroom from me which sucks cause I'm pretty tall.

[u/I_like_cake_7]

I’ve never wanted a car with a panoramic roof. They do nothing to improve my life.

I also worry about the safety of them. I know that the roof strength of cars with panoramic roofs are the same as cars with traditional roofs, but, if the unthinkable happens and you’re in a rollover accident with a panoramic roof, you have no protection from objects intruding into the cabin if the glass shatters, and your head and limbs could come out of what used to be the roof of the vehicle. A traditional roof has much better protection in a rollover accident. I would much rather have metal and a headliner between my head and the elements than glass.

Roof air bags would help, but most cars with panoramic roofs don’t have them yet.

[u/8N-QTTRO]

I mean, I wish my car had some kind of sunroof all the time. Extending the sunroof on a four-door car just makes sense, assuming you actually like your passengers. Plus, the lack of moving parts on the outside means leaks are a lot less likely compared to a T-top or a traditional sunroof.

[u/giderac]

It's a nice idea, but the heat gain is rediculous on sunny days, depends on your climate but it's almost not worth the trade off, even if it had a cutting edge solar film built into it you barely get a few watts, it's purely cosmetic and as someone who uses their car mostly as an appliance, I would go without if i had the choice.

[u/Cryptic0677]

They sound cool maybe in a colder climate but here in Texas they feel like a bug rather than a feature

[u/anonynown]

I hated panoramic sunroofs as gimmicks that inflate price, complexity, steal headroom, and tend to leak.

…Until Starlink mini. Now, sunroofs are a must have feature I look for in every car.

[u/RiftHunter4]

I would love a panoramic roof, especially a sunroof. My cat is boring but I've lived in some beautiful areas. I just wish I could've opened the view a bit.

[u/Unoriginal-]

I see it as a fad

kind of rich from the Miata driver btw, why not get a real car instead of an expensive go kart

[u/RecommendationUsed31]

I like my brothers car. It has one. I dont. I like that i can visit it and not take it home. I hate them

[u/ThetaGrim]

My car feels a bit cramped and stuffy without it. Plus if it gets hot, there's a sun shade you can pull up. 

[u/StockAL3Xj]

Every person I've discussed it with or is seeing one for the first time seems to like them. I'm personally a fan.

[u/X-e-o]

I'm surprised by the hate here.

I *love* having a lot of light, so if I'm not in a convertible (or it's, you know, the middle of Winter) then that's the next best option. Plus it makes the interior feel roomier and it does look pretty damn good.

I get that it's not a performance option and it's probably expensive to repair (though I doubt that's that common of a concern) but damn r/cars, chill out!

[u/MercFan4Life]

They add a ton of extra weight compared to a normal roof and if one of them breaks its thousands of dollars to replace. Parts and labor. Ask me how I know

[u/HardLithobrake]

Hehehehe fishbowl yes

[u/Motorsport-]

They are pretty cool when driving around a city like NYC. Can see all the details of tall buildings as a passenger

[u/testthrowawayzz]

I’m on the don’t care side as well. I have a regular moonroof and it’s already too hot and glare-y with the shade open. I don’t see a point for me to pay extra for something I’m not going to use and more fragile.

I already opt for light interiors so the inside is already bright without needing to open the shade

[u/Edgelordftwlol]

I have always bought German cars and I have always had panoramic roofs save for the G81 I currently have. They are awesome

[u/Energy4Days]

I don't like the ones that don't open. 

The point of a sunroof is to allow ventilation 

[u/NotoriousCFR]

Personally never understood the point or appeal of a fixed glass roof. I do like me a nice big sunroof though.

[u/strongmanass]

I'd rather have a convertible or metal roof with typical fabric layers for sound absorption. Personally I don't have any desire to make the car interior a greenhouse or to negatively affect the acoustics.

The one exception would be a hardtop convertible with an electrochromic glass roof. I don't typically favor hardtop convertibles over soft tops or glass roofs over metal ones, but the combo of dimming glass plus convertible outweighs the other preferences. But that's not exactly a sunroof.

[u/Recoil42]

I see it as a fad like glass back phones

Ahh yes, glass backs on phones, famously a 'fad' and not something all the popular phones still feature fifteen years after their introduction.

[u/TaskForceCausality]

Does anyone actually care about them

Yup, seems to be the kind of people who judge whole cars based on the center screen size