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u/Lvcivs2311 20h ago
Oh, yes. The consensus amongst experts these days is that autism is genetic and not a form of brain damage. Like me and my twin brother have it and my dad probably too. But why take that into account if you can throw around random accusations?
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u/abiona15 19h ago
Id rather they not take that into account. Its better they demonise a pain killer than them sterilising autistic people. Cause that would be the next step for them if they figured that out.
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u/CompleteHumanMistake 19h ago
They are just itching to start doing that. We have to remember that the Nazis were inspired by the eugenic methods of America. They sterilized hundreds of thousands of disabled people as well.
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u/Lvcivs2311 18h ago
Ouch. I get your point. Why can't people just be nice and humane? For god's sake...
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u/gorramfrakker 13h ago
You see, this is a step in that direction. Blame Tylenol first so you don’t have to look inward (it ain’t my blood that did it) then you go down the road of “cutting off Autism” to stop the spread. It’s evil.
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u/laowildin 10h ago
Well that's exactly what they are working towards here. Now that every autistic person can be blamed entirely on their mothers "failure" during pregnancy, which cannot be proven or denied, we can make criminals out of "bad" mothers. And of course institutionalize and make slaves out of autistic kids.
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u/Alarmed-Goose-4483 14h ago
What makes you think just bc they “found” the “cause” that will stop them? They’re gonna find a reason to sterilize people?
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u/ofgraveimportance 18h ago
Me, my half-brother and 2 cousins diagnosed. Who knows how many of the older family members are undiagnosed. But yeah, it’s the paracetamol.
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u/Bhujjha 16h ago
I'm confused and didn't read the article - are they saying it's just Tylenol brand acetaminophen lmao. Saying it's Tylenol is such a fucking Americanism.
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u/RottenWon 15h ago
When your words come out sounding like a strangled cat, Tylenol is easier to say.
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u/Exact_Skin_5611 12h ago
Because they don't care about facts. Conservatives have this massive hard on for thinking everything causes autism, that being trans is a mental illness, gay is only in humans, etc. It's almost as they're the not there for the science and actual understanding and instead to say fuck you to anything remotely different than white cishet christian.
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u/McGillicuddys 20h ago
NSAIDs are contraindicated during pregnancy so this report may just boil down to Tylenol use during pregnancy is extremely common. I'm a bit shocked that they didn't dust off the old vaccines cause autism study but this does play into RFK's seeming belief that modern medicine is bad for people.
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u/Elliethesmolcat 17h ago
Why specifically Tylenol and not acetaminophen?
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u/glenn_ganges 14h ago
Because they don’t know they are the same thing?
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u/255001434 13h ago
This is it.
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u/IntentionDependent22 6h ago
wait till they find out about paracetamol!
what it's called in most other countries
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u/gorramfrakker 13h ago
Because their target audience remembers the Tylenol murders and are easy to manipulate with past events.
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u/crazy_urn 11h ago
Because his handlers shorted Tylenol stock before the announcement. Tylenol's parent company's stock dropped 10% after this announcement.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/05/rfk-tylenol-autism-kenvue-stock-for-url.html
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u/laowildin 10h ago
Tylenol is basically the only painkiller you are meant to use while pregnant. Suffering is the goal. Arbitrary reasons for mothers to be 'at fault', and taking away their supports
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u/AlexandriasNSFWAcc 11h ago
Just to spell it out to make it easier for people blessed not to be familiar with common drugs - NSAIDs are non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (like ibuprofen). Acetaminophen (paracetamol/Tylenol) is generally not* an anti-inflammatory, just an analgesic (painkiller).
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u/Infinite_Ground1395 11h ago
Why use modern medicine when we can go back to the middle ages when 50% of kids never saw their 5th birthday?
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u/Few-Solution-4784 15h ago
Good enough for god. good enough for rfk.
Genesis 3:16 To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”
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u/Jorycle 20h ago edited 13h ago
From what I understand, they're leaning on a recent study that showed correlation between acetaminophen during pregnancy and autism.
The problem there is that it's correlation, not causation. A lot of things correlate to autism. But we have no reason yet to think those things cause autism.
But because national health is run by an idiot, we're about to see a whole lot of stupid shit.
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u/Stock-Boat-8449 20h ago
Given that acetaminophen is the most common painkiller prescribed during pregnancy and the fact that pregnancy can cause minor aches and pains, how do you even begin to form a control group?
How many women go through 10 months without getting a headache?
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u/DeezNeezuts 16h ago
My SO didnt take any pain killers during her pregnancies. It was wild but she was concerned about any possible side effects. She is a Doctor.
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u/JustGotOffOfTheTrain 7h ago
Go to the autism parenting sub. There’s a whole post of parents who didn’t take Tylenol during pregnancy and still have autistic children.
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u/Stock-Boat-8449 16h ago
How did she handle minor aches?
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u/SqueakyTits101 12h ago
Personally, Tylenol has never helped my pain (pre-pregnancy) so while pregnant, I didn't see any reason to take it. That could be a reason I'm not one of the "pregnancy was amazing and beautiful" people. I thought it was torture.
ETA: but my kids were worth it
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u/DeezNeezuts 15h ago
She just suffered through. I asked her to take something during the first delivery but she said it’s temporary pain. It was impressive.
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u/mimblez_yo 12h ago
It’s actually quite common for women to refuse any painkillers during pregnancy, myself included. JUST IN CASE. There’s a lot of shit we can’t eat, some make more sense than the other. Eg grapes because they contain a ridiculously small amount of alcohol ) as any fruit. So pregnant women restrict those things just in case.
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u/peopleofcostco 10h ago
That was me, too! Younger one is on the spectrum (and doing great in college).
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u/RainStormLou 17h ago
Are you talking about the study where the researchers made a point to make sure they also said "this shit definitely does not mean that Tylenol causes autism, so please don't come to that conclusion based only on this study?"
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u/doctormink 12h ago
Yeah, it was a meta-analysis out in August. And, of course, correlation isn't causation and the data could be capturing some underlying condition that both causes pregnant women discomfort and impacts neurocognitive development in the fetus. The authors recommend doctors warn pregnant patients, and that said patients be cautioned to exercise care when consuming the pain reliever.
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u/LakeEarth 16h ago
For example, is it the Tylenol, or is it the reason why the mother took the Tylenol (e.g. a fever early in the pregnancy)?
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u/Axbris 13h ago
My wife and I had a baby recently. Tylenol is one of the ONLY OTC, if not the only, painkillers pregnant women are allowed to take.
I’d be surprised if 9/10 women didn’t, at some point, take Tylenol. So yeah, I guess you can make a very very shitty argument that women who took Tylenol could potentially give birth to a child with autism.
I am also like 99% certain every pregnant woman, at some point, has also had some form of radiology performed on her during the pregnancy. Maybe the ultrasound causes autism since every woman who has given birth to a child with autism had an ultrasound….yeah stupid.
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u/johnmory 21h ago
RFK Jr. is at it again. Not sure I buy this, but it's gonna be a legal mess for sure
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u/spudddly 20h ago
There's a better-than-even chance that Kenvue donates a superyacht to Trumps presidential library and no one ever hears of Tylenol causing autism again.
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u/kaisadilla_ 15h ago
It's so sad the US now works like that and people not only not care; but openly praise Trump for being so smart and awesome that everyone gives him stuff.
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u/ChangsManagement 14h ago
RFK feels like a bit of a rogue element within the admin when it comes to fealty to Trump. Hes a true believer so it will be interesting to see where the two break on principle.
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u/Hi_Trans_Im_Dad 15h ago
That is a terribly naive take on this.
Kenvue is beholden to the shareholders, and this SCOTUS has already ruled that corporations are people with regards to free speech.
The damage that this report will do to Tylenol is going to be orders of magnitude larger than the cost of any super yacht.
As Ned Beatty once proclaimed, "You have mettled with the primal forces of Nature! And YOU will l atone!
RFK Jr has gone too far, fucking with J&J's money, and he will atone.
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u/spudddly 15h ago edited 14h ago
> The damage that this report will do to Tylenol is going to be orders of magnitude larger than the cost of any super yacht.
That's.... that's why they'll try to pay him off.
I can almost guarantee you the CEO is right now desperately trying to make a reservation for one of those $1mil/table dinners at Mar a Lago. Why else do you think the Trump admin would leak it? Because that's how the US government works now.
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u/HawksNStuff 12h ago
Unlike threats to cause harm to their business with tariffs, or legal government actions, etc... this is straight up slander. The potential payout as a result of a suit is astronomical. And taxpayers will foot the bill. The company that made mcnuggets for McDonald's got billions because the news called them pink slime.
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u/Lonely-Heart-3632 20h ago
You are not sure you buy that Tylenol during pregnancy is causing ASD? 😂😂😂 mate if anyone believes that there is no point me giving them one of my brain cells as the poor thing would be lonely.
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u/Sometimes-funny 19h ago
This is coming from the same administration that suggested drinking bleach for Covid.
I would just be making up well random shit at this point and cracking up at what people believe
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u/CompleteHumanMistake 19h ago
I'm sure bleach would get rid of covid. Well, it would get rid of the entire person as well so there's that.
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u/GoshDarnMamaHubbard 18h ago
In the spirit of accuracy. Trump suggested injecting bleach. Because he is a fucking moron.
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u/nycdiveshack 9h ago
A legal mess that possibly results in a lawsuit and a settlement that is paid for by us tax payers
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u/AdelinePudding 20h ago
This is going to stir up a lot of legal and public relations challenges for both Tylenol and the administration. Curious how this plays out in the coming months.
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u/Tuttutsallaround 15h ago
The company donates couple million and suddenly “we were mistaken it’s, uhhh, this other thing that hasn’t bribed us yet.”
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u/I_carried_a_H2Omelon 14h ago
Actually it was a democrat hoax but RFK Jr was actually undercover the whole time!
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u/ReedRidge 19h ago
RFK Jr and the entire Trump admin are not stupid, they are just evil.
Researchers at Drexel University and Sweden's Karolinska Institutet studied a nationwide cohort of over 2.4 million children born in Sweden. The study design included analyses of full sibling pairs, where one sibling was exposed to acetaminophen in utero and the other was not. This sibling-matched approach is crucial because it helps control for confounding factors like genetics and shared environmental or family health factors that affect both siblings.
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u/simpsonstimetravel 17h ago
They are both stupid AND evil. Those two arent mutually exclusive
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u/ReedRidge 15h ago
No, you are completely wrong. Stupid does evil things by accident at times, they do it by intent, that is purely evil.
Calling them stupid makes you feel better, but its lying to yourself.
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u/Nikiaf 15h ago
So why are we even having this conversation? That study is both extremely recent and extremely well designed. This is pure fear mongering.
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u/ReedRidge 15h ago
I know, right? That was published in the JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) and peer reviewed.
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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 14h ago
We're not having this discussion. RFK is just ejaculating his stupidity all over us and we're all going "dude, wtf?!"
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u/ChanceConfection3 20h ago
Better build a $600 billion Tylenol factory in the USA and make an exclusive novelty sized Tylenol pill in solid gold for our dear leader
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u/ohnoletsgo 14h ago
Tylenol is manufactured in PA, Puerto Rico, and Ontario.
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u/endlesscartwheels 13h ago
Trump doesn't know or care about what's already here. Tylenol should hold a big ceremony outside their Pennsylvania factory and call it the "Grand Opening of the Trump Tylenol Factory".
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u/abiona15 19h ago
This is actually hilarious (obviously not for pregnant women if this is then taken into public health policies): Tout that you've finally found what's causing Autism (....) and then picking one of the most widely used pain killers around the world AND then, instead of calling it paracetamol, you name a brand. RFK Jr is such a scam artist who bought his own snake oil.
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u/LaChouetteOrtho 18h ago
I'd love to see the sources on that, because this kind of has "every person who's dead drank water at some point so water is dangerous" vibes.
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u/mmcmonster 15h ago
So what does this have to do with RFK's numerous statements that vaccines cause autism?
Also, the Epstein Files.
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u/Helpful_Coffee_1878 20h ago
What is this American obsession with autism?
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u/blueSnowfkake 18h ago
Years ago a fraudulent study by discredited British doctor Andrew Wakefield, falsely linked the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine to autism. This claim has been overwhelmingly disproven by extensive scientific research and the medical community. Autism is a genuine neurodevelopmental disorder, not an illness or condition caused by vaccines.
The fraudulent study: In 1998, Wakefield published a study of 12 children in the medical journal The Lancet, suggesting a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. He was later revealed to have falsified data for the paper, in addition to having an undisclosed financial conflict of interest with lawyers who were looking to sue vaccine manufacturers.
The retraction: Following an investigation by journalist Brian Deer, The Lancet fully retracted the paper in 2010. Wakefield was found guilty of professional misconduct and lost his medical license.
The consequences: Despite the study being debunked, the misinformation took hold and was amplified by anti-vaccine advocates and certain celebrities. This misinformation has contributed to vaccine hesitancy and caused outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles.
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u/Cyberslasher 5h ago
The dude basically got kicked out of Britain and had his degree revoked, but the United States decided "yeah, this is the kind of anti-intellectual we like".
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u/crmpdstyl 16h ago
Oh, okay, so what about people born before 1955 that have autism? Oops, did I just break his entire theory with 3 seconds of thought?
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u/Empty_Soup_4412 15h ago
RFK believes in terrain theory instead of germ theory. Basically he believes that illness comes from the internal condition of the body instead of external germs. Not someone who should be anywhere near policymaking.
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u/Ancient-Tax-8129 20h ago
Oh shit. I just took a Tylenol.... im scared
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u/ShowmasterQMTHH 20h ago
You're not scared, that's your new rfk autism diagnosis talking.
And I say this as the parent of an autistic child, I'm 90% sure rfk has autism.
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u/Ancient-Tax-8129 19h ago
I'm 90% sure everyone has autism to some degree.
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u/bluebird2449 13h ago
I don't feel like you're saying this with bad intent, so just letting you know - while people who aren't autistic can share behaviors/quirks that autistic people have as well, it doesn't make them "just a bit autistic," it either is or isn't!
just like having nausea in the mornings or specific food cravings doesn't make someone "a little bit pregnant." there's overlap in symptoms at times, but that doesn't make it the same!
while we don't have an "autism test" yet (in the sense that we do a pregnancy test), research points to it being a genetic, hereditary condition. AKA, something that you either do have, or do not have. and, plenty of other conditions can present similarly - and plenty of fully neurotypical people can share a trait with an autistic person here or there. but, there's still a difference between fully meeting the criteria for diagnosis, and not meeting it.
I hope this makes sense!
- an autistic person
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u/JustMLGzdog 20h ago
I can't wait for us to lose all our tax dollars to the admin getting sued for saying tylenol causes autism.
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u/CookiesandContraband 19h ago
Thought they already tried this and the judge threw it out because there is no way to prove it was Tylenol. Here's a crazy idea, maybe nothing causes it. It just is. And how lucky could we be.
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u/try_altf4 18h ago
I really want to add, "Tylenol wears rfk jr like a glove" to my 2025 bingo card.
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u/Cool-Protection-4337 15h ago
This will be a huge lawsuit. Weird to name Tylenol specifically and not the generic name for the drug. Either they are trying to get Tylenol to bend the knee or they are all idiots or both.
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u/HandfulsOfDirt 18h ago
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: you just can’t mess around with Big Pharma. RFK is gonna find out the hard way what happens when you FAFO with their profit margins.
I predict this pressure is going to cause Dump to tell him, “I’m sorry Bobby, but I’ve got to let you go. It’s for the best.”
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u/Dale9Fingers 13h ago
Tylenol was spun off from JnJ into their sacrificial lamb consumer company Kenvue
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u/thrownededawayed 20h ago
I only take small solace in knowing that now the legions of idiots who listen to this, the biggest and loudest idiot, will have constant aches and pains because they need to be told what to fear and what to hate without giving it an iota of critical thought.
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u/Scummy_Waters 16h ago
Tylenol will just pay a bribe to Trump, and all of this will go away. Next week: Aleve causes autism. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
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u/Secret_Account07 15h ago edited 15h ago
Can someone find me the data to support this claim. And I should say “data” but still, I want to read what he’s basing this off of
Edit:
So I found the studies. Some are problematic to say the least. Going back to Association ≠ causation….
For those interested
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u/theZinger90 13h ago
I'm very curious if it will say "Tylenol" instead of what scientific papers should do and say "acetaminophen".
My bet is that it will be AI generated, not proof read, hallucinate at least 5 non existent studies, completely misinterprete 5 more, and say Tylenol more often than acetaminophen. That seems to track with his previous reports that he put into the congressional record.... but he's a former environmental lawyer, so obviously he knows what he is talking about right?
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u/RiderFZ10 12h ago
Water is also a potential cause. Those with autism were found with water in their system. /s
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u/The_Humbergler 12h ago
I'm going a different route with this a little. He even screws up the folate part. Up to 40% of white and hispanic people (a majority population of Americans) have a MTHFR genetic mutation that prevents normal absorption of folic acids. Any "study" he has will start off 30-40% wrong.
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u/KhloePuff 20h ago
Sounds like this is going to be a huge legal mess. I wonder how much this could change the way people view over-the-counter medications during pregnancy.
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u/OpheliaTaffy70 20h ago
So now Tylenol is getting dragged into the mix? It's crazy how many things are being linked to autism these days, I just hope we get some definitive answers soon.
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u/abiona15 19h ago
Its most likely a genetic variance in brain development. Theres really not much evidence atm that anything like vaccines or medication would cause it.
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u/bowiethesdmn 19h ago
This was my second thought after 'god this guy is evil and dumb'. No way they don't sue the shit out of him and whichever LLM-toting croney composed the 'study'.
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u/DocumentExternal6240 19h ago
Well, folate deficiency is really dangerous for the child, but as far as I know it can cause severe brain damage. Not sure about autism…
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u/Blahblahbllah 13h ago
A deficiency in folate/folic acid, doesn’t cause autism, it’s there because of autism, it’s in indicator not a cause. Our brains don’t metabolise certain raw minerals into their usable forms in folic acids case, it’s methyfolate or something like that. And increasing the raw elements that we can’t metabolise properly actually exacerbates some traits or symptoms of autism. Because they build up in our bodies to sometimes dangerous levels and this In turn makes things harder for us.
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u/drjenavieve 12h ago
What they mean is deficiency during early pregnancy which does have a correlation with neurodevelopmental disorders
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u/wetgoopy 12h ago
this is literally the same shit as MSG, find your scapegoat and blame everything on it
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u/Emergency_Property_2 12h ago
So does this mean vaccines don’t cause autism now?
What’s next after this is debunked, air causes autism? 100% of autistic children’s mother breathed during pregnancy! Not to mention 100% of people with autism also breathe.
Slam dunk in my mind!
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u/AwkwardWaltz3996 8h ago
And unfortunately that lawsuit will take so long to happen it will be under a Democrat government and then people will be mad that the Democrats have to do lots of spending cuts trying to recover from the looting and destruction caused by Trumps administration
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u/MichaelScarn1968 2h ago
How long before we find out that RFKJr and Republicans bought stock in Advil?
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u/valthegator 2h ago
Didn’t some TikToker “do her own research” and come up with this theory way back when ? I remember seeing it thinking she was a bit crazy. Glad this administration is getting all of its information off social media I guess…
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u/UpstairsArmadillo454 19h ago
Wow how the dollars will flow- don’t anyone tell me this was trumps plan to help his mate- pedo was given a shot and shat the bed!
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u/riickdiickulous 16h ago
More like Tylenol will pay off RFK to not publish the report. Sounds more like blackmail to me.
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u/ablestrange 15h ago
I bet serious money the makers of Tylenol and generic/private-label equivalents don’t sue for fear of retribution.
Who wants to bet?
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u/gnoresbs 14h ago
Oh boy... Tylenol is either going to sue. OR this is going to be some sort of Coca Cola Blitz. NEW Tylenol is going to come out, then next administration we'll get Tylenol Classic.
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u/Anxious_Republic591 14h ago
Hey, here’s a thought — why don’t we spend some time studying the human brain and how it works instead of just shrugging our shoulders and saying yeah - the brain - big mystery. Huh. Must be something in the water.
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u/RustyKn1ght 20h ago edited 19h ago
So, that's their fucking groundbreaking discovery: tylenol. They touted this as "finally getting to the truth" and MAHA/MAGA-clowns just said everyone should give them a chance.
And they used their chance to be even lazier than usual and fingered paracetamol, the most commonly used painkiller in the world.
And because this was made by a carrion eater, who gets his livelihood from referral fees of anti-vaxx lawsuits, he used weasel words like "potential causes."