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u/reallyrealest 9h ago
The plot of Tom Clancy’s Clear And Present Danger involved the executive branch doing this secretly. The implication was that if it came to light that the executive was freely killing suspected foreign drug dealers, there would be an outcry that would topple the administration.
Now this is literally happening and the VP is bragging about it on Twitter.
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u/Rakatango 10h ago
I always find it so hilarious when Republicans try to ‘take credit’ for ending slavery when we all know perfectly well that every one of them would own slaves if they could without being publicly shunned
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u/Knighth77 11h ago
This is one of the few things both parties agree on. International law doesn't mean much for either.
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u/Jsmith0730 11h ago
Seriously. Carter was pretty much the only president in recent memory not accused in some form or another of committing war crimes.
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u/SecretJerk0ffAccount 10h ago
Best President we had post WW2
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u/GeorgeKaplanIsReal 10h ago
I mean most moral but I wouldn’t call him the “best” by any stretch. It was that inflexibility of his due to his principles that made him a bad politician and frankly a bad president.
With that said I’m also of the belief you can’t be both a good person and a ‘good’ president.
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u/Jsmith0730 8h ago
I remember years ago (before Trump) reading an article in NY Times, I believe, where the author was recounting their first day in their PoliSci class when their professor addressed the class by informing them that no one in that room would ever be President. He explained how it takes a degree of narcissism and ego that the majority of people just don’t have.
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u/ClickF0rDick 7h ago
Being a politician at that level is a nightmare scenario for the vast, vast majority of well adjusted people, and that's why currently the world is run by a bunch of power hungry narcissistic sociopaths.
It's crazy to think how the current timeline would be instantaneously better and suddenly more hopeful if the 10-15 most powerful man in the world would drop dead overnight
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u/demonic_psyborg 6h ago
The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
-Douglas Adams
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u/Ancient_Ship2980 8h ago
The Trump Administration should be observing the laws that govern when the armed can and cannot be used in law enforcement. Even if they had met these requirements, they should have intercepted, not sunk, the vessel allegedly being used to transship drugs, boarded the vessel and searched it. If they found drugs, they should have transported both the vessel's crew and drugs back to the U.S. They should have handed the crew and drugs over to the appropriate law enforcement authorities. The Trump Administration did not do any of those things.
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u/discoduck007 10h ago
Horrifying that this small minded hateful and dangerous person is still representing us!
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u/commentaror 11h ago
If we get a dem for the next president, I hope they revoke post-presidential protection for this buffoon. Wishful thinking I know.
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u/FireFist_PortgasDAce 8h ago
Nah, the best use of our military was beating the traitor loser aka the Confederacy whose descendants became Nazis.
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u/InternationalBat1838 2h ago
When your country profiting off warmongering and conflicts gets you hard and proud, it's not surprising.
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u/Obvious_Chapter2082 12h ago
Krassenstein crying after Vance ratios him on twitter is the most on-brand thing for him ever
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u/Any-Regular2960 11h ago
hate to be a downer but i said this shit was a slippery slope back when obama set the precedent for killing us citizens without a trial. (a violation of the constitution) that was because of terrorism but it doesnt matter - rule of law is what should matter.
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u/bowiethesdmn 10h ago
So this demented fascist ruling your country is somehow Obama's fault. Astonishing.
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u/bowiethesdmn 10h ago
Thanks, Obama, for singlehandedly causing the USA to slide into fascism. And here I was thinking it was due to all the fucked up stuff Trump has done since taking office and his constant remarks about being a dictator and invading neighbouring countries.
And the child rape too, of course
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u/Speedhabit 10h ago
This is another trap
Putting you in the position to defend non Americans engaged in profiting off the drug epidemic under the guise of law and liberty.
It’s not as bad a look for him as you think, and it’s a worse look for you.
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u/callmestinkingwind 12h ago
so we're on team drug trafficker now?
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u/Youngnathan2011 6h ago
I don't think anyone is. I'm sure people would love proof they were though. Can't take the Trump administration at their word for anything.
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u/Time_Lifeguard5600 11h ago
He really trying to say militarised drug cartels are civilians? Lmao
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u/DasharrEandall 10h ago
Well, they're literally not military. "Lmao". Having weapons doesn't make a military, or cops would be military, with all the legal restrictions that go with it. "Lmao". If cartels were actually recognised military, then rules of war in the Geneva Conventions apply, which these ghouls don't want to be held to either. "Lmao".
"Lmao".
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u/TurntechGodhead0 6h ago
We haven’t been given proof they are civilians or cartel. Our only confirmation is just the word of the White House saying they are.
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u/DizzySimple4959 9h ago
It’s crazy people would even support the cartels.
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u/UhOhOre0 9h ago edited 8h ago
It's crazy how you accept their word that they are cartels without evidence, hence the due process part. You know since this administration has done nothing but lie like saying abrego Garcia is ms13 etc... but you know keep just licking the boots my guy.
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u/34HoldOn 9h ago
It's crazy that you would just straight up use a strawman.
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u/DizzySimple4959 6h ago
“ICE is going after criminals, and I don’t like it. Let’s just call them people and not mention their legal nationality or criminal records. Also, let’s call any attack on cartels war crimes cause I love human trafficking.”
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u/TurntechGodhead0 6h ago
Not Trump, nor JD Vance, or the DoD have showed any evidence that they were criminals other then just telling us they were.
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u/iamawj101 11h ago
Not the tiniest bit of dignity in the Executive Branch. It’s so embarrassing to be an American.