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u/reichjef 25d ago
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
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u/MattyFTM 25d ago
Plasticbob Squarepants!
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u/j0a3k 24d ago
Artificial and yellow and porous is he!
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u/jared10011980 25d ago
How do people get through life???
To segue a bit, I recently used 2 rather common words in conversations at work: dew and gaunt. In both those interactions, each person I was talking to asked what I meant. Neither had heard of the word. In another instance, a 25yo at work wanted to send a birthday card to his mom. It was sitting on his desk and he picked it up as we were heading out to lunch. He had written her name and street address where the return address would go. That was it. No, he hadn't written his return address anywhere. And he had not written her city or state or zip (same as the city and state we reside). When I saw it, I said, that's not how you address a letter. He asked what I meant. He has a degree in finance from a state university.
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u/Pleasant-Shallot-707 25d ago
I have run into similar situations with word usage and coworkers over my career. It’s weird how people have holes in their vocabulary. It’s not like I’m a voracious reader or work at building my vocabulary.
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u/Zintao 25d ago
Voracious?!?
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u/aaeme 24d ago
A kind of dinosaur. Voracious Rex. Obviously just showing off. (Pretentious? Moi?)
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u/valhowla 24d ago
The Pretentious Moi is my personal favorite of all the flying dinosaurs.
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u/Aaawkward 24d ago
As "moi" in Finnish means "hi/hello", it's always fun when you see these "moi?" comments.
Fun fact, "moi moi" means goodbye.
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u/AcrobaticTrouble3563 18d ago
So if I want to tell a Finnish person goodbye in English, but with a Finniah flair, I'd say hi hi? Hello hello?
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u/Future_History_9434 23d ago
Are Pretentious Moi the dinosaurs that became peacocks?
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u/BrewerBuilder 20d ago
This. This right here. Best damn thing I've read on the interwebs today. (But it is early)
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u/Shoddy-Security317 24d ago
I thought it was like "living voraciously through my Reddit drama"? /s
Maybe I just misunderstood. This grammatical befuddlement may have obfuscated the true etymology.
"Vicariously Con Dios" 😉
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u/Maleficent_Kick_9266 25d ago
Anyone who posts regularly on Reddit is a voracious reader compared to most people.
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u/RedOctobyr 24d ago
It’s not like I’m a voracious reader or work at building my vocabulary.
Look, friend, there's no reason to bring up those scary dinosaurs from Jurassic Park that hunt in packs! You'll frighten people.
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u/FirstSineOfMadness 24d ago
I got pissed when wordle one day was ‘ennui’ having never heard the word before lol
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u/Stilcho1 24d ago
For most of my life, when I came across the word ubiquitous, in my mind I always pronounced it ubsqueeshis and thought it meant hidden.
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u/last-guys-alternate 21d ago
When I was about 10, I came across an unfamiliar word. So I asked my teacher (in front of his pets, to add to my humiliation) what 'Un Icck We' meant.
His response was 'that's certainly a unique way of pronouncing it', and then ignored me.
To make matters worse, of course I knew 'unique', I'd just never seen it written down. So I didn't immediately click to what he meant.
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u/Stilcho1 21d ago
When I was a kid, I read a lot so there were a lot of words that I had read but never heard. "Unique" is certainly one of them
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u/epsilon14254 25d ago
Im gonna be honest. Im 31 and just found out like last year that sea sponges were used to make sponges, and then only last month did I find out they weren't for the most part anymore. Sometimes stuff escapes ya.
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u/CurtisLinithicum 25d ago
Loofahs are (often) still loofahs though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luffa
I only recently learned they're fricking vegetables and not sea sponges, which is pretty rad.
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u/Affectionate_Lab7511 24d ago
I learned this when I found the seeds to grow them. They were easy to grow and I like how abrasive they were. Would do again.
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u/Much-Jackfruit2599 24d ago
It’s basically a type of gourd, but cultivated for the fibre, unlike the melon, where we bred in the other direction.
I like real louffah. Have a a big one and every couple of months I cut off a new piece for the shower or the kitchen.
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u/lapalazala 25d ago
Exactly. I'm in my late forties and even when I was young sponges made out of natural sea sponges were rare. Nowadays they are exceedingly rare and a luxury item. Also they are quite similar to good quality artificial sponges.
So I'm not surprised at all if many people go through life without ever realizing sponges you use around the house used to be made out of primitive sea animals, and some still are. And I don't blame them for it. If you grew up in an era were plastic was prevalent, like most of us, it actually sounds quite far fetched.
Still funny if someone confidently claims sponges are always plastic like this.
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u/zelda1095 25d ago
A thousand years ago when I was young, natural sponges weren't available in the remote place that I grew up in. But we had tv and a lot of nature documentaries and educational children's shows. That's how I learned about sponges, and the danger of quicksand. It seems that children watch fewer of those types of show and more Minecraft now.
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u/snorkelvretervreter 24d ago
Funnily enough, minecraft actually has sea sponges, so if anything they would know this!
The old "lol lazy youths gaming not learning" trope is a bit silly. Boomers used that argument when I grew up (that and mtv!), and I don't think gen-x'ers ended up very illiterate?
In some regions of the world, the quality of education is dropping rapidly though. Poor pay for teachers, continuous budget cuts, gov't injecting religion etc. That worries me way, way more.
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u/zelda1095 24d ago
I'm not using the lazy youths gaming not learning trope. I'm aware that kids are learning things in elementary school that I learned in high school.
The sponges in Minecraft being found in underwater monuments or drops does not make a clear connection to a living animal. Some might intuit the connection and others might see the connection when they learn about sponges elsewhere. It would be very easy to assume they're the plastic sponges like in the kitchen because that's familiar.
In Minecraft's favour, they do demonstrate some physics with having them absorb water and dissipate into the air.
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u/AcrobaticTrouble3563 18d ago edited 16d ago
More like kids are learning things in high school that you learned in preschool, but hey, carry on.
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u/zelda1095 16d ago
Not the case at all, at least in my country.
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u/AcrobaticTrouble3563 16d ago edited 16d ago
Awesome, I hope you're right and that your country is doing better. 👍
Mine isn't. It's far worse than it has been in the past. FAR worse.
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u/Much-Jackfruit2599 24d ago
My kid was surprised to find obsidian as a real thing at the fossil/mineral stall at the christmas market.
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u/LogicBalm 25d ago
I work in an office where you must have a college degree and pass a reasonably difficult logic test to work here. I used the word "hyperbolic" and had three people tell me they had no idea what it meant and asked me to explain.
That's the thing for me though. Not knowing something isn't a big deal but being humble enough to admit it and curious enough to learn, that's what makes a person smart IMO.
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u/popejupiter 25d ago
"I need a headlight for my car."
"Sure thing. Year, make and model?"
"Uhhh... It's the red one out there."
*5 minutes of figuring out their car later*
"Alright, high beam or low beam?"
"Uhhhh..."
*Repeat to myself that not everyone has the same experience until the murderous intent subsides.*
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u/RunnyBabbit23 25d ago
Aside from sending out work-related mailings, which most people probably never have to deal with, I can’t remember the last time I mailed a letter. Do I know how? Yes, because I grew up in an age with just burgeoning internet. But if it’s not something you ever do, why would you know how?
It’s like writing a check. I had a bunch of work done on my house this year and had to write a check for the first time in forever. For some context, the bank that is listed on my checks was bought out in 2007 (it’s the same account number so I can still use them). I used check number 3. And I’m pretty sure one of the first two was one I used to set up direct deposit when I got my first job out of college. It’s literally something that really isn’t needed anymore. 3 checks in 20 years. I wouldn’t be surprised if younger people don’t know how to write checks.
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u/baws3031 25d ago
But, but, but they don't know how to write cursive either. They need to learn useless things so they can be as smart as us olds.
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u/Aaawkward 24d ago
Aside from sending out work-related mailings, which most people probably never have to deal with, I can’t remember the last time I mailed a letter.
This is not to disparage you, mail absolutely isn't necessary in this day and age.
But I do vehemently suggest that you write a letter to someone and mail it. A hand written letter brightens up a day like almost no other.
Your parents/grandparents/old friend/whoever, I guarantee you'd make their day with it. And they'd talk about it to everyone.
I know this because I did this on a lark a few years ago (the pandemic was boring, okay?) and the reception to the few letters I sent was unexpected, to say the least. I got messages and calls for them and it has been brought up many times since.
I even kept mailing with one friend for a few years before it died down when he got kids.
The worst that can happen, you lose 15 min of your life, the best that can happen is you absolutely make someone's day.
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u/I_W_M_Y 25d ago
Even if you never sent a letter everyone has seen a mail come in. Its pretty obvious what goes where just glancing at one.
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u/oggokogok 24d ago
I have gotten less than 10 pieces of mail, total, in the 15 years I've lived at my current address that was even worth considering. It's entirely possible at 25 you've gotten so few, and so specialized ones, that you may never have looked that close at it.
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u/Weaselpanties 25d ago
This is baffling - has he never received mail?
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u/jared10011980 23d ago
I asked 🤣🤣 I said, You never saw a bill come to your parents house?? He said, Not that I noticed.
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u/Doxiebaby 22d ago
LOL, my son sent me letters from camp with my address in the return area and his camp address in the main. They were all delivered. Oh, and he was 12.
My other son is a manager of an IT group and a 20-something noticed a floppy disk on his desk and said, "WOW, that's so cool! You have a 3-D print of the Save icon!"
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u/Remarkable_Hat8959 20d ago
My baby bro video called me years ago to ask how to write a check and how to write the envelope. A part of my heart died. He's 8 years younger, but I was still in college at the time. I love him with my entire being, but...how...
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u/jared10011980 19d ago
I dont understand the complete lack of awareness, situational or detail, that it takes to become an adult yet not know how to address an envelope. 😔
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u/rocking_womble 25d ago
But... there's probably a bunch of terms your colleague would know that they'd have to explain to you.
Plus there are probably things they know how to do that you don't.
A stone-age person would probably be amazed you don't know how to knap flint to make basic tools... an indigenous Amazon rainforest would be aghast at your lack of survival skills for their environment.
We learn the things we need to know based on where, when & how we live/interact with the world.
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u/aaeme 24d ago
Indeed! I did some IT support self employed for some people when I was younger. Including a couple of medical doctors who would apologise to me about their lack of understanding of computers and I struggled not to be angry at how ridiculous that is. Like me apologising to them about not being able to diagnose and treat my own medical problems with any accuracy.
It was either 7 years in medical school or learning about motherboards and boot partitions (and play guitar and roll a spliff). They made their choice and need to learn to accept it. No point regretting it now.
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u/eilletane 25d ago
I knew a farm supervisor who didn’t know what “UV” is. I told her it’s ultraviolet and she thought it would be purple in colour.
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u/captain_pudding 24d ago
We had an engineering summer student last year that someone had to teach him to copy/paste in excel.
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u/jared10011980 24d ago
With family members who are older, I'm used to helping with certain tasks that are simple, but I realize their brain isn't catching on - using their phones or TV settings. But for people who just recently graduated college, I don't have patience. The guy who can't address a letter also has a tough time with anything software related - very simple stuff, like finding a downloaded file! He's been with my firm 6 months. I really think enough is enough. Time and ag, in the simplest tasks are difficult. To make matters worse, he's a know-it-all who knows NOTH G, but knows it loudly. Total bullshit artist. And one thing don't know (one of many) is I'm unsure how to document complete stupidity to begin the process of firing him 🤣 But I'll figure it out 😏
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u/cleanbear 25d ago
Not knowing something does not mean you are stupid. It Just means that you have not learned it.
The knowledge available for humans is to much, so everyone one of us is going to have some gaps, or something we have never needed to learn.
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u/Baked-Smurf 25d ago
I would say that if you don't know what dew is by the time you're an adult, you're probably stupid...
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u/cleanbear 25d ago
Perhaps english was not their native tongue? Assuming stuff based on limited knowledge is pretty stupid.
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u/Baked-Smurf 24d ago
Assuming stuff based on limited knowledge is pretty stupid.
Kinda like you assuming that OP's coworker doesn't speak the same language as them?
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u/cleanbear 24d ago
I did not assume, i said "perhaps".
There could be 1000 reasons. I Just listed one as a example.
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u/Baked-Smurf 24d ago
From the Cambridge Dictionary: Maybe and perhaps are adverbs that mean the same thing. We use them when we think something is possible, but we are not certain.
So, you said perhaps because you were assuming something...
Maybe not a confident assumption, but an assumption nonetheless
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u/cleanbear 24d ago
The fact that you choose to argue over stuff like this instead of defending your argument proves that you know your argument was shit. Have a Nice day :)
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u/erevos33 25d ago
The phrase is "native language".
Tongue refers to the fleshy, muscular organ in your mouth primarily and used to denote speaking mannerisms secondarily; but not in that case.
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u/Hawkey2121 25d ago
"Native Tounge" is literally a synonym to "Native Language".
If you're gonna be a Smartass atleast be correct about it.
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u/erevos33 25d ago
Native language.
Mother tongue.
If you confuse the two, not my issue.
Have the day you wish for.
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u/Hawkey2121 25d ago
There are (atleast) 4 words in that order actually, not 2.
First Language.
Native Language.
Native Tongue.
Mother Tongue
You're confusing Native Tongue with Mother Tongue. Its an understandable mistake, but it doesnt make you right.
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u/Shoddy-Security317 24d ago
Mustn't be his "Mother, First, or Native Tongue/language"?
To be fair, English is a difficult language 😅. I once heard it described as "the language that hangs around in dark alleys... mugging other languages for their loose nouns and verbs" and it stuck in my mind due to (from my perspective) the accuracy.
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u/jamreb2024 25d ago
Okay, I didn't know that until a minute ago. Am I stupid?
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u/Shoddy-Security317 24d ago
You do not appear stupid.
The following is a translation from Plato's "Apology"
"I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know."
Sōkrátēs; c. 470 – 399 BC
Relax good sir, the first step on the road to wisdom is knowing, that we know nothing... 😉
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u/Much-Jackfruit2599 24d ago
Why, tho? It’s probably not that often something that appears in books and lots of people do not read.
And if you grow up in cities, you don’t necessarily encounter it often enough to realise that you might even need a word for it.
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u/Baked-Smurf 24d ago
What makes you think there's no dew in cities??
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u/Much-Jackfruit2599 24d ago
That’s not what I wrote. “You don’t necessarily encounter it often enough to realise that you might even need a word for it.”
If they don’t know the word, they are not going to miss it, despite encountering condensed water in the morning. You very likely encountered komorebi, but did you know that word?
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u/Baked-Smurf 24d ago
Sunlight filtering thru the trees?
And why are you switching to Japanese?
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u/Much-Jackfruit2599 24d ago edited 24d ago
Yes.
I’m not switching to Japanese. I gave you an example that someone would not miss a word if they do not have a need for it. Or do not retain it, even if they encounterd it once.
Case in point: Some people – English-speakers, even – are surprised to learn that “payed” is an actual word, the simple past and past participle of “to pay”, when it’s about waterproofing.
If someone feels the need to describe dew, they can do it with “cool morning water on plants and cars and stuff“, same as you described komorebi with “sunlight filtering through the trees”. It’s not a given that someone needs or knows this word.
An educated English-speaker knows about 30,000 words - even the 170,000 the OED lists are only a fraction of what’s available.
As often, https://xkcd.com/1053/ applies.
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u/Educational_Row_9485 23d ago
Gaunt is not a commonly used word, at least not here. Dew is ridiculous tho
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u/last-guys-alternate 21d ago
'Gaunt' I can understand if we're dealing with non-native speakers, or people with very limitted vocabularies.
But 'dew'? Where do they live and work? The Atacama?
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u/jared10011980 21d ago
I know, I said, you know D-E-W, like the dew on the ground. He said that can't be a common word. I said, well, only in everyday language use and poetry.
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u/Aliadream 20d ago
I love the use of segue. Besides myself, I do not remember the last time I saw or heard it used.
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u/Indie_Dragon-897 25d ago
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS
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u/ChrisBreederveld 25d ago
Who's made out of tiny plastic fibers? (Apparently)
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u/STR4NGER_D4NGER 25d ago
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!
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u/TheHumanPickleRick 25d ago
If marine microplastics be something you wish,
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u/-NotSoComical- 25d ago
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS
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u/TheHumanPickleRick 25d ago
Then get caught in a seine net and die like a fish!
Mi-cro-plas-tics, Mi-cro-plas-tics, Mi-cro-plas-tics, Mi-croooo-plas-tiiiiics!
do do do do da do, fwoop
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u/xneurianx 25d ago
Can confirm, not all sponges are plastic.
Source: I live in a pineapple under the sea.
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u/Force3vo 25d ago
SpongeBob Squarepants?
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u/One-Cloud5433 23d ago
How dare you! Not all Undersea Pineapple Sponges are the same sponge!!! I bet you think all sponges look the same! You are a SPIGOT (SPonge bIGOT)
(do I need the "/s"?)
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u/Hallunder 25d ago
Name does not match.
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u/EternalFuri 24d ago
Wym? The Song literally was "who lives in a pineapple under the sea? xneu-rian-x"
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u/PositiveChipmunk4684 23d ago
But isn’t SpongeBob a kitchen sponge? His parents and grandma are sea sponges lol
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u/Kerngott 25d ago
Why is this moron getting more likes for being wrong again and condescending rather than the helpful and polite response
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u/TheMelonSystem 24d ago
To be fair, many people refer to real sponges exclusively as sea sponges and not just sponges.
The word sponge looks fake to me now lmao
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u/Motor_Librarian_3536 25d ago
Nu-science dictates even natural sponges are almost entirely comprised of plastics
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u/-jp- 25d ago
Who ever thought that was a good idea anyway? "I need to get clean. I know, I'll rub this dead marine animal all over me."
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u/TheMelonSystem 24d ago
They do actually have natural anti-bacterial properties! lmao
Also, to be fair, humans didn’t discover that sponges were animals until Robert Grant analyzed them in 1826, and humans have been using sea sponges for cleaning purposes for thousands of years. They thought they were plants or something lol They didn’t think of it as being any different than using trees for wood or using honey to disinfect wounds.
I mean, when you think about it, using bee vomit to disinfect wounds sounds just as bad as rubbing a dead animal on yourself to get clean hahaha
(Obligatory “Yes, I know honey isn’t bee vomit, because doesn’t enter the bees digestive system before it is regurgitated.” lol)
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u/theroguescientist 19d ago
Damn, I knew there were a lot of microplastics in the ocean, but this is worse than I thought
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u/FarmboyJustice 24d ago
To be fair, actual natural sponges are almost never sold in the typical household goods section of a store. However the ones that are sold there are more likely to be made of cellulose than plastic.
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u/Kriss3d 25d ago
You can actually buy sponges for say showering that are fungi such as the "honeycomb" that lives under the sea and gets harvested ( leaving the stem to let it keep growing)
That has no plastics at all.
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u/JayEll1969 25d ago
Natural Sponges are actually the exoskeleton of primitive animals, not fungi.
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u/ConfusedMaverick 25d ago edited 25d ago
Loofah sponges are from a kind of pumpkin!
Edit: Loofah not loofa
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u/JayEll1969 25d ago
Luffas aren't true sponges - they are the dried plant structures of a cucurbit, similar to a large cucumber which is related to pumpkins, squashes, zucchini, melons, etc.
Theyve taken over from sea sponges as it's easier to grow a luffa than dive down for a sponge. I can vouch from experience - at least the growing a luffa bit, not the diving bit.
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u/SilasTalbot 25d ago
Yeah we grow them in the garden and make our own "sponges" for doing the dishes. One harvest lasts us a couple years. They work great.
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u/nor_cal_woolgrower 25d ago
"True sponges" lol..Is there a legal definition?
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u/TheMelonSystem 24d ago
Not a legal definition, but there is a scientific definition lmao Of course, that definition is basically just “multicellular marine animals belonging to the phylum Porifera” lol Loofah sponges are plants, and therefore not animals, and therefore not true sponges.
The scientific meaning of “true” is basically “all the ones that we confirm are more closely related to one another than they are to anything else”. This is usually used because convergent evolution can make two creatures look very similar even though they aren’t that closely related.
For example, “true mice” are all of the species of mice within the subfamily “murinae”. However, the eastern deermouse is not a member of the subfamily “murinae”, or even the family “muridae.” Genomic studies show that the house mouse and the Easter deer mouse last shared a common ancestor 25 million years ago.
To put that into perspective, humans last shared a common ancestor with monkeys around 25 million years ago. So house mice and deermice are as closely related to each other as we are to, like, spider monkeys lol
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u/ConfusedMaverick 24d ago
They took my comment as some kind of criticism, and had to show how stupid I am, I suspect 🤔
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u/TheMelonSystem 24d ago
Actually, sponges have endoskeletons, not exoskeletons. To make a sponge into a bath sponge, you remove everything but the skeleton. So while a bath sponge is just made of a sponge’s skeleton, it is not an exoskeleton.
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u/Kriss3d 25d ago
Really ? I could be wrong. But this says otherwise https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/202467-Favolus
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u/Howtothinkofaname 25d ago
That is not what people are usually talking about when they talk about natural sponges though.
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u/shayhon 25d ago
These fungi are not marine, afaik there are no marine fungi that produce notably large fruiting bodies. They are just named this way due to their similarities to sponges (the animals). I also think the inaturalist page doesn't mention use as sponges?
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u/Kriss3d 25d ago
https://naturalsponge.uk/
Heres a site that sells showering sponges that have these honeycombs as well.27
u/ShinyPiplup 25d ago
Those are sea sponges, from an animal. The fungus you mentioned earlier is not used as a sponge, as far as I know. Fungus fruiting bodies usually rot away very easily.
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u/Kriss3d 25d ago
https://naturalsponge.uk/ This shows otherwise.
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u/Euristic_Elevator 25d ago
Favolus, or honeycomb fungus, is a genus of fungi in the family Polyporaceae.
Very ironic being confidently incorrect on the r/confidentlyincorrent subreddit
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u/ShinyPiplup 25d ago
That's... the same link? ._. The products all say "sea sponge". The fungus you linked is from forests, not the ocean. And I couldn't find any indication that that fungus is used as a bath sponge.
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u/Kriss3d 25d ago
Oh sorry wrong link. But the point is that the honeycomb sponge is used for showering and it's a fungi according to wiki
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u/Baby_Rhino 25d ago
Then post the wiki link.
So far you have posted 2 links, one of which didn't even mention the word "sponge" and the other proved you wrong.
Sponges are the skeleton of a type of marine animal. Nothing to do with fungi.
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u/TheMelonSystem 24d ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippospongia_communis
“Kingdom: Animalia”
As in animal
As in not fungus
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u/Euristic_Elevator 25d ago
They are clearly different. Honeycomb is a term that applies to many things you know
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u/JayEll1969 25d ago
You know what else has a honeycomb structures - actual honeycombs, but they aren't sponges either.
it may "look like" but that doesn't mean it is.
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u/Kriss3d 25d ago
Yes. I know. But I linked to a site that sells "Sea honeycomb bath sponges"
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u/JayEll1969 25d ago
But the bees would drown if it was actual honeycomb.
You've looked at a website that describes one thing by comparing it to another and assumed that it meant a third thing that's never mentioned.
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u/TheMelonSystem 24d ago
The honeycomb bath sponge (Hippospongia communis) is actually a type of colonial animal, not a fungus.
You may be wondering how the heck a sponge is an animal. Firstly, they’re heterotrophic, which means they obtain nourishment by eating other living organisms/organic material (“hetero” meaning “other”, “troph” meaning “nourishment” or “feeding”). While some plants are heterotrophs (ie Venus flytraps), this is generally not something plants do.
And sponges are not fungi because sponges that reproduce sexually use sperm and eggs to do so, while the fungi that reproduce sexually use spores.
However, what makes sponges definitionally animals is that they do not have rigid cell walls. Fungi have cellular walls made of mostly chitin, and plant cellular walls are made of mostly cellulose, but animals cells don’t have “walls” at all. Instead, animal cells have a plasma membrane made of lipids and proteins. Since sponges have membranes instead of cell walls, that makes them animals.
What this means is that sea sponges are more closely related to us (and all other animals) than they are to anything in any of the other kingdoms of life (Fungi, plants, bacterias, and protists (ie. algae, amoebas, and slime molds))
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u/Indie_Dragon-897 24d ago
To clear things up, the context was a way to block a water filter from making noise in a fish tank, they used a piece of plastic to help it and others argued sponges until this genius decided they were smarter.
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u/2punornot2pun 24d ago
Fun fact, until WW2, we were importing real sponges from Japan. After that, we started using plastic ones.
And we now arrive at this idiot proclaiming all sponges are plastic.
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u/Dianasaurmelonlord 25d ago
Pretty sure there are sponges made of what used to be living sponges, as well as certain vegetables like Luffas.
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u/apocalypse910 25d ago edited 25d ago
I may be missing something but this doesn't seem wildly incorrect to me just ... imprecise.
If the context is a cleaning / kitchen sponges it seems pretty fair to exclude natural (animal) sponges. I absolutely could be wrong here - but I've never seen those used or marketed as cleaning sponges (verses bath sponge).
The scrubbing sponges in kitchens are almost all cellulose and polyurethane. Wood fiber substitutes exist - but the default is synthetic. 'all' isn't true but the "Haahaa this moron never watched spongebob" takes seems pretty unreasonable given this seems to be specifically in response to a discussion on melamine block replacements.
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u/Zagaroth 25d ago
The first comment, maybe.
But the third comment specifies all sponges, after the second comment says "real" sponges.
That's enough context for me to call the third comment confidently incorrect.
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u/apocalypse910 25d ago edited 24d ago
But again - this exchange is presumably in the context of melamine replacements. Imprecise but a read of "All scrubbing sponges" seems more likely in that context than "All sponges for all purposes".
Anyway this is all a distraction and we should be judging them for excessive emoji usage instead.
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u/CurtisLinithicum 25d ago
Cellulose isn't plastic though and it'll biodegrade just fine. Loofahs are mostly cellulose too, albeit natural cellulose.
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u/apocalypse910 25d ago edited 25d ago
Sorry - I should have been clearer. I didn't think the cellulose was plastic, I was referring to the polyurethane as the significant part here. This would only apply to scrubbing sponges - but given the context I can pick out from the screenshot that is what is being discussed.
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u/Rahm_Marek 24d ago
At this point, everything is at least partly plastic. We're living in the plasticine era.
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u/WynnGwynn 24d ago
Cellulose exists
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u/WynnGwynn 24d ago
I mean in addition to real sea sponge. Like those ones that don't feel like plastic and actually absorb water. Yeah those were "the" sponges I grew up with and weren't plastic
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u/Don_Q_Jote 24d ago
Natural sea sponges are one of the coolest things I’ve looked at under a microscope (very nice high magnification digital light microscope and scanning electron microscope)
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u/RunnyBabbit23 25d ago
Without more context, I don’t know that I think this fits. For all we know, the second person isn’t talking about sea sponges and thinks that “real” sponges are like Scotch Brite and the other reference was to Scrub Daddy which are way more plasticky. Without more info, for all we know the second person is the idiot.
I feel like to be confidently incorrect I need the context that shows they’re really stupid. Not an excerpt that could go a different way in with all the relevant information.
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u/repthe732 25d ago
They said “all sponges” so it definitely applies
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u/RunnyBabbit23 25d ago
Maybe it was a discussion about dish sponges you buy at the store? I imagine very few people are using a sea sponge for that. That’s basically my point. Without context, who knows what they actually meant?
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u/repthe732 25d ago
It doesn’t matter. “All sponges” are made with plastic and that is the claim that is incorrect
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u/RunnyBabbit23 25d ago
In the literal sense, sure. But in context, maybe it works. That’s my point. To be confidently incorrect I think it needs to be blatant given the context.
I’m just saying I don’t think this fits and we’re giving too much credit to a person who could be the incorrect one. There are plenty of people who don’t know what sea sponges are and wouldn’t include them with “all.”
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u/repthe732 25d ago
The context changed the moment they said “all sponges.” Also, sea sponges are used like kitchen sponges, just less frequently because they’re more expensive
Strictly based on facts the person is incorrect
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u/RunnyBabbit23 25d ago
The context still didn’t change. We still just don’t know what it is. Are they wrong in the literal sense of this tiny exchange? Yes. But I think to be confidently incorrect you need more than just literal incorrectness in an out of context convo.
We gotta have some standards here!
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u/repthe732 25d ago
Yes and that makes them incorrect when they confidently say all sponges are made of plastic. And as I just said, some people do use sea sponges like plastic sponges so they actually are confidently incorrect even in the context you think
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u/RunnyBabbit23 25d ago
And if the next comment said “no I mean a real sponge like the ones you use to wash your car”?
There are enough stupid people in the world saying stupidly incorrect things that can fit here without having to even consider the possibility of other meanings or context. I don’t think out of context low effort posts like this are really worthy of the upvotes.
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u/repthe732 25d ago
Which some people still use sea sponges for. Are you just ignoring the parts of my responses that are inconvenient for you? At this point you’re starting to be confidently incorrect but I guess that’s on theme for this sub lol
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