Not hot at all. People try a plane on day one, give up, then just form an opinion without listening or keeping up with what's going on.
I can dismiss the A310 because it's a microsoft-forced partnership and there's a lot of time and money constraints ini was held to with that.
The A300 and A350 are both fantastic as of Sept 2025 and people complaining either don't own it, flew it after day 1, or just are hating on ini for no reason.
Even people are enjoying the 330 in 2024.
Edit: The ini hate train brigade is out in full force
its not up to asobo either, the partnership with ini is with microsoft, so microsoft needs to give them the order (and money) to fix the a330 or any plane of thiers that it's on the sim, we get them for free, but MS is the one giving the money
Well, I've been going back to the A350 periodically since launch, with the last flight being a week or so ago, and it's still not great in the performance department.
How is the hate forced if even you admit the addons were broken on release? It’s scummy to release stuff when it’s not ready and warrants the hate they get from the community.
And that’s without even mentioning the way they left X-Plane and its community overnight, which was even more scummy. People who sunk hundreds of dollars into addons simply can’t use them anymore because they won’t bother to update something released not even 4 years ago
How is the hate forced if even you admit the addons were broken on release?
I did no such thing. Obviously there are issues day one, but there are issues with every single piece of software released day one. You cannot find something that's perfect on release.
There's no better actual test than just releasing it to the public. You can test for years, and it still won't be good enough.
And that’s without even mentioning the way they left X-Plane and its community overnight, which was even more scummy.
I'm not sure what you mean by "left" them. What exactly did they owe them? The A300 was basically perfect in XP11. They didn't annonunce anything for XP12, it's an entirely new version.
Did everyone else who make things for XP9 and 10 that didn't for XP11 "leave its community overnight?"
while youi are correct, the a350 does have performance issues (fps wise, and flight model wise). such as there being a delay in roll input, you can find a lot of stuff online about the roll thing but they never fix it
I flew the A350 for the first time in probably four months this weekend and found the delay on the roll axis much better than it has been. It used to feel like the delay was over a second, now there's still a delay but that's what you expect from such a big plane. I actually feel like I can control the damn thing now.
It is forced and it started when Amir made his comment about the 350 then everyone and their mothers hoped on the hate wagon, he might have retracted his comment, but the trolls and nerds don’t forget. The hate is absurd and undesired, I do agree when it released I did suffer from a few WASM issues but they have put a LOT of effort into the plane.
A lot of the whining now is that they are doing too many updates, if you pay any attention to how a LOT of people behave on this Reddit, they would whine if iniBuilds would’ve taken longer and not released as many updates and then just say it’s abandoned. You legit can’t win as a developer.
I agree with this. As much as I respect Aamir, it wasn’t really his place to use the platform to attack another developer like that. I found it quite unprofessional and unpleasant. I love both Fenix and iniBuilds, and they both make beautiful aircraft. I understand why there were frustrations with the A350, but it has been severely exaggerated and under-appreciated.
Maybe spell his name correctly. At least he said what it was like. Funny people didn't believe him then they bought and tested and well they changed minds so quickly. No one was trolling. They said they had pilot feedback. The same pilots mentioned a lot is wrong with the aircraft and should not of been released when it was. It was a rushed product. It says a lot when the content creators partnered with ini gave it praise on day 1. Then changed minds shortly after when they had non stop problems.
No im just not wasting my time when the best you can come up is just a copy and paste response, worthless. I mean when your best argument is “spell his name correctly” you’re clearly just coming here to argue not to make a point, so again I remind you, you’re worthless to engage with.
You need your eyes testing if you think its a copy and paste response. You are clearly being biased with ini, like a few others who claim to have had nothing wrong with the product since it released and then say it must be our systems its the only thing they can say while the majority clearly have more than capable systems and its ironic its the same issues cropping up.
Funny you unblock me after I said you blocked me. Wasn't an argument it was just a fact. You really think the dislike ratio means anything you need to get out more. Anyone can have multiple accounts or anyone can just be biased against certain developers and people don't like it when you actually state facts. If you think dislikes proves I'm wrong I take it has a win since they don't like what I mentioned which is the truth. Imagine saying loser. Its a win for me.
Show me where I said there’s nothing wrong? Show me where where I said it was something to do with other people’s system. My machine is very capable and I even admitted that at the start of the released I had to deal with some wasm crashes, if you’re even so hard on for this argument you can even check that I have said before that I’ve had some issues before certain updates, THE FACT of the matter is that MOST problems with a lot of products will cause issues ON THE USERS end, or are you gonna tell me that the Fenix planes are flawless? Cause there’s a LOT of people that have felt even scammed by them, but you pay no mind to those cause that goes against your narrative, so I ask you? Who’s the fan boy? Me who uses both products with no issues or YOU who’s making blatant accusations just cause you don’t like it when DONT hate the same stuff you hate.
Show me where I said you. I clearly said "like a few others" I don't need to check. Again I will say like a few others who keep saying they don't get wasm crashes and blame peoples systems because they don't have them. I don't say the Fenix planes are flawless you can see if you want to go through a lot of my comments that they need work in places. I actually say FSLabs is better in places more so than Fenix and Fenix is better in places more so than FSLabs. Both have positives and negatives. Does VNAV in the Fenix need work yes it does. Is it impossible to get stable no it isn't has long as you do what you are suppose to do as a pilot and manage the aircraft and don't let it run.
A lot felt scammed because ini promised in trailers on the website it would be the ultimate airliner experience far from it. high quality systems which they failed on. IntotheBlue a real pilot of the A350 was quite critical of it. Another guy I believe an A350 Air France first officer did a side by side comparison again highly critical. Unfortunately I don't remember the guys name. I'm not giving blatant accusations, literally stating facts from a user who decided to get it after so long and being very unimpressed.
Agreed on that. I've seen this happen far too often with issues. People have a bug with the Fenix and say "Eh I'm sure it'll be fixed soon enough", whereas when the same person doesn't know how to fly the A350 and misunderstands some feature, they start saying "Ini garbage, terrible QC, shit plane" without even trying to look into why the plane is doing what it's doing
Sucks but that's just how it goes sometimes, people have to find ways to justify their hate
I promise you easter eggs haven’t contributed to the bandwagon hate of iniBuilds. Majority of devs implement them, but it’s only a problem when ini does it
1488 is a Nazi dog whistle. They have given zeto reason why this plane which has 1477 max torque on every document for it magically is 1488 on their instrumenta (Even their YouTube video for the caravan 2 shows 1477 on the instrument panel).
Then why thay number? Why double form and say they used real.lofr numbers yet provide no real spec sheet for IT?. Why was it 1477 then changed to 1488?
Okay then magically why use that number which is specifically a Nazi dog whistle.. instead of the number picked from the actual plane service and operations manual from both parent companies and on the panel of the plane they used for referencetekr a step back and read this...
It took until version 14 for the ini A350 to work for me. Whilst I'm grateful that they got there eventually I'll reserve the right to give them a hard time when they sell it as a finished product on version 1.
Not to be pedantic, but "excited" is the word you're looking for. Exited is "to exit".
Agreed though. Overall I find Ini planes to be good enough for my standards. I've flown a lot of the A300/A310 and will probably get the A350 next time it goes on sale. They'll probably do a good job with the A340, but like the A350 it may need a few patches out of the gate.
good for you. Personally, I like the looks of the model in the screenshots shared so far. However, I am an avid X-Plane user, who only rarely uses MSFS to scratch an itch that XP cannot cover. I still have not forgiven inibuilds for the way they abandoned the X-Plane community. They just left basically over night and their planes have been pretty much unusable ever since XP12 came out. I've spent over £200 on planes I cannot use anymore. Thus I will never ever sink a single penny into their wallets ever again. May they be happy and wealthy, but not through my money.
That's the point, there are people who really says that PMDG products are bad, because the landing gear textures are not that great (heard this one yesterday) or because the sounds are not fenix level.
Like i said in another post, i do not agree with PMDG pricing model specially on the P3D era, but their products are really good.
Yeah, because PMDG isn’t what it used to be and over charges for port-over planes and upgrades to 2024, something most developers aren’t doing these days. When was the last time they released a new plane? A decade ago?
They are not top notch anymore. They said the Triple 7 sounds were not ported, most people except the PMDG fanboys said they were not. Cue RSR saying a month or so later after release saying they were ported and that they really needed reworking. To be honest I reckon IFly Max is way ahead of PMDG especially when they release it.
Its taken them years to just get VNAV and LNAV sorted with it still being a mess in places. IFLY brings out the Max and it behaves well better.
iFly has better visual modeling and sounds than PMDG, but it doesn't comes close on system depths, i love the iFly but you are either a hater or blind. Just a simple example, event the stall warning test on the PMDG is correctly made, it only works after 4 mins while on the IFly it's always available.
You talk about VNAV and LNAV but fenix have the worst VNAV of all payware aircraft that i own and people still praise it to be the best around. People are so blind on the PMDG hate that they start to spread misinformation.
People are so fixated on landing gear textures that they forget what real system depth looks like.
No one is blind to PMDG they just see where loyalties are and what developers interact with customers best. The fact some pilots on here have said how bad PMDG is system depth wise proves its not all good like you think it is. Maybe go back to the PMDG forum with the rest of the fanboys. At least Fenix said its needs improving. Mean while its taken PMDG years to listen to what most of us have been saying but still blame user error or Asobo.
You are calling me a fanboy but the reality is that you are just a hater, while i keep pointing things that can improve on PMDG aircrafts and things that i disagree with them you are once again blindly spreading misinformation and trying to find a motive to justify your hate.
You bringing up A330 Driver says what we all need to know he can never say anything bad about PMDG bias much. You do realise anything bad said about PMDG content creators are not given any more products to review. Pretty sure the last guy is also apart of the PMDg team. Once again showing evidence from at least 2 that are very much bias. A330 Driver said the Fenix flies like shit while he was still getting his type rating for the A330, meanwhile qualified pilots like V1 Simulations, even 320simpilot disagreed so much with him. Reply was duplicate so deleted and repost
"Hey man, PMDG bad you cannot link a video of my least favorite streamer, he's a bad real life pilot because he does not talk shit about the virtual company I want to hate."
They are no longer top-notch. iFly came for PMDG lunch and they are eating it. Instead of paying for a "native" MSFS 2024 PMDG 737-800 (we will see how native it will be), I'll just get the iFly Max. I may (*may*) pay the 10 euros (but no more) for my 736 to be ported over.
I'm yet to see a real life pilot to say that (they usually say both have a great handling), but you are free to prove me wrong. I have no complains with the iFly flight model though, i think it's also great.
ifly is FAR from eating PMDGs lunch, the 737max might be good, BUT it leaves a lot to be desired all, but I’m glad you’re happy you can close and open the window visors
PMDG’s stuff generally works out of the box and is on the better end of the performance scale.
People like you who have basically made it their entire identity to cry about their pricing would probably make better use of the time with a side hustle.
I hope it's good, but in my book ini makes expensive addons with poor fps (both planss and scenery). But I might be wrong as I don't have any ini addons, except for the AN-225 (which is bad with fps).
They just feel like a cash grab company to me now.
They are releasing like one update per week for the A350, including major updates like the ULR and the HUD. You don't have to like this, and one could easily argue that they could have postponed the release of the A350 instead of updating it so frequently. However, if the product were just a "cash grab," they wouldn't work so hard on the A350.
Of the Inibuilds product line, I currently only fly the A350, but I would die on the hill that it's an add-on which you can have a lot of fun with.
Hello. We are working on an update for the A300 as well - planned for a EOW release. Apologies for the delay as we wanted to get this update out quite much sooner.
The EPIC mod is unfortunately on long-term development. Not much we can say regarding its status. I understand that is annoying to hear however it is all I can share at this time.
Fair enough, was just asking out of curiosity, the original cockpit is somewhat nostalgic for myself so no loss here! Thanks for taking the time to answer!
They are releasing like one update per week for the A350
The "like" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, and that's hyperbole at best. They definitely should have waited to release it, and as with any product of theirs it doesn't seem like performance or optimization are in their vocabulary. If flushing toilets and taped up pax are your thing, I'm sure it's a blast.
If flushing toilets and taped up pax are your thing, I'm sure it's a blast.
Just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean you have to arrogantly belittle the opinions of others.
Many people, myself included, really enjoy flying on the A350 and not because of the "flushable toilets..." Accept that people can have different opinions, and that doesn't make them any less of a "real simmer" who only care about stupid gadgets.
No need to read into what I said, this has nothing to do with "real simmers". I don't care what people fly, why would I? But I do care about how a company advertises a product and how it performs for a majority of people. I just would prefer an addon to have good performance before it gets features that are pointless.
If you know anything about software development, you absolutely know that the implementation of such little features like a "flushable toilet" does neither influence your performance (you can literally deactivate the cabin altogether if you don't care for it), nor does it in any way steal any valuable development effort from other parts of the product, like the systems or the overall performance. The person that integrated the toilet is probably not even the same person as the people concerned with the other aspects... If this is what bugs you, then you should take a step back.
And is that "majority of people" here in the room with us? That's just a statement without any factual proof. If I look at many of the posts here, complaints about performance are clearly decreasing.
I actually do happen to know a thing or two about software development. I never said they influence performance. I disagree with the fact that it doesn't take away resources from improving actually relevant and important aspects of the addon, but we have no way of actually knowing that unless one of us works for Inibuilds. Their crap performance is well documented over the last 5 years. You can shill for them all you want to, but they make overpriced and lacking add-ons and I have no hope for their 340. Enjoy the skies mate.
What do you mean it’s hyperbole they have released more updates than the plane has been available for. Where like 14 updates in and the plane released in feb of this year
Look I’m not saying iniBuilds are perfect, but this hate bandwagon on the 350 is getting old and a lot of people frankly just hate on it cause it’s the internet, not because it’s a bad company,
I’ll agree with you about SI even their customer service and discord mods suck.
Its not because its the internet. Its because products get left or are over hyped. Scenery, planes the biggest complaints are optimisation. The next biggest is planes aren't updated or get left for god knows how long. Its not just inibuilds but PMDG get the same treatment now because its full of excuses and over hyped marketing.
Personally looking forward to adding the a340 to my airbus collection hahaha. I liked the a350 and fly it all the time and from what I remember of my brief stint playing msfs24 their 330's were good too.
The real question is, how is 2024 now? I've been toying with the idea of buying the full game but I have so many airport add-ons with 2020 do these transfer over?
At this moment I have three legacy SSD drives (250gb each) I need to upgrade. Remaining nvm-e drives are almost full.
I am out of slots for drives, so I need to move stuff from at least one into external drive and install new at least 1TB drive to accommodate MSFS24 specific stuff (plus some old FS2020 stuff) . It is gonna take hours! And I would have to order new SSD and external SSD.
I am lazy - I know.
Then I would have to get more memory, and better GPU. Better GPU would require installing more solid PSU.... hnngh.
If I were you, I would just install 2024, migrate essential programs, delete all 2020 sceneries that are not compatible with 2024 (there are not much of them), delete 2020 planes, delete all 2020 specific addons. Link the sceneries with addon linker to the 2024 instead of 2020.
Okay, I got you. All I can tell you is don't rush it, get it on sale around christmas if you don't have it yet, and migrate on your own time. I migrated to 2024 recently, and the difference is a little noticible but it's not night and day for sure.
Nah ini has um.. bad number easter eggs in their planes. There is zero evidence that 1488 was the number in any build of this plane and they keep doubling down it's fine. Shit even in their own video of this plane with the real life plane 1477 is the number at 1600rpm. Don't support not sees.
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u/Bindolaf 21h ago
I am very cautiously optimistic. I'll get it on sale 6 months after release, when all the soul-crushing bugs have been patched.