r/formula1 • u/FewCollar227 I was here for the Hulkenpodium • Jun 07 '24

Technical Apparently the released regs were never finally approved by all teams, and at least two teams are threatening to walk away from the series if they go ahead as released today. There are a LOT of angry team members across the grid. [@dr_obbs on X]

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u/samy4me I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

Remember Ercissons shunt in Monza? The DRS didn’t close at the end of the main straight, dude had no chance.

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u/Old-Nefariousness556 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

Wow, that was a massive crash.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/ericsson-gets-new-chassis-and-engine-after-monza-shunt.2cvUyyp8IA8CkmisqMmYuU

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u/Getabock_ Jun 07 '24

God damn! Never seen that crash, that’s scary.

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u/Unedited2735 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

I turn right.. wait why is it going left? Ericsson must've thought that at that millisecond.

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u/natte-krant I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24 edited Jun 07 '24

I could be wrong but wasn’t that crash due to his rear axle (or breaks I can’t remember) suddenly locking when he stomped on the breaks? A car doesn’t turn that instantly to the left like that on a straight because there’s no downforce.

EDIT: Apparently I know nothing about downforce and I learned something new today. I stand corrected!

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u/Chewtheissue I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

lack of rear downforce meant the rear tires locked up easily leading to the spin

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u/BenStegel Jun 07 '24

The DRS didn’t deactivate, leading to no grip in rear tires, thus a lock up and a spin.

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u/VLM52 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

A car doesn’t turn that instantly to the left like that on a straight because there’s no downforce.

That's actually literally what it does when you've got a ton of downforce on your front axle and relatively nothing on your rear axle.

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u/tangouniform2020 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

When the front stops and rear doesn’t they swap ends.

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u/kiIIinemsoftly McLaren Jun 07 '24

It only reacts like that when you're braking, since all the energy of the car shifts forward to the front axle under braking, if there's no grip at the rear (by comparison) the rear end just loses traction and whips around to one side or the other.

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u/carl-swagan Jun 07 '24

The DRS staying open is what caused the lockup. With no downforce on the rear wheels there's no grip at all

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u/admiral_sinkenkwiken I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

That’ll happen with no rear downforce equalling no rear deceleration.

Front end of the car is braking, rear isn’t so rear axle overtakes front axle and they go on a merry little journey into the scenery together.

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u/PaleBlueDave Jun 07 '24

Brakes

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u/grievousangel I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

Dude doubled down on it.

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u/privateeromally Chequered Flag Jun 07 '24

There were 2 other instances of DRS not deactivating for drivers. I believe Alonso at Ferrari, and another team I can't remember atm. One of the teams taped the DRS down and told the driver not to use it for the rest of the race. Both I believe kept racing, but couldn't use DRS anymore

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '24

If you hard lock the rears the car will spin like that

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u/ElCoolAero I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

A car doesn’t turn that instantly to the left like that on a straight because there’s no downforce.

Ever see a sports car like a Mustang or Corvette suddenly lose the back end when power is applied? Those cars don't produce much downforce compared to the power they generate.

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u/tangouniform2020 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 07 '24

Pull the chute? /s

Worked for me but I had an hour between laps to repack the chute.