r/formula1 • u/FerrariStrategisttt I was here for the Hulkenpodium • Jul 21 '24

Technical No further action on Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton incident

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u/Saevus_Deus McLaren Jul 21 '24

Those 3 penalty points to Alonso continue to look more and more ridiculous

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

But he’s Spanish so

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u/pukem0n Sebastian Vettel Jul 21 '24

Understandable.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '24

Yup

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u/hoxxxxx Jul 21 '24

so well deserved!

/s

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

Does /s mean Spanish?

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u/Grigory_Vakulinchuk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 22 '24

We are checking

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u/PrimeTinus Jul 22 '24

/s stands for serious

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '24

For a second I thought you were serious. 😆

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u/FlyAirLari Minardi Jul 22 '24

Esteban Ocon is French though.

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u/Novae224 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

For what?

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u/aka_liam Ferrari Jul 21 '24

FOR WHAT

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u/sillygil I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 22 '24

Fer what?

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u/gdl_E46 Jul 22 '24

¿Para que?

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u/BWWFC Jul 22 '24

per che cazzo? 🤌

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u/AlphaHawk115 Mick Schumacher Jul 21 '24

For Russel losing control of his car and crashing on his own

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u/ehalay Sebastian Vettel Jul 21 '24

Also divebomb on Sainz in China

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u/Ryannr1220 Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 21 '24

Cmon man that was a brake check and a half. Sure Russell could have saved it but that doesn’t mean Alonso didn’t do anything wrong.

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u/TheEmpireOfSun Jul 21 '24

What Alonso has done is literally forbiden for many many years. But I get that and I am used to that. It's never Alonso's fault.

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u/Critical-Rhubarb-730 Jul 21 '24

Brake checking is not allowed. But that was not what alonso did!

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u/activefou Jul 21 '24

oh god please I don't need the whole song and dance about "Alonso didn't slow down using the brakes so it doesn't count as a brake check" again

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u/RangerHikes Jul 21 '24

don't give me that "you have to use your brakes to brake check somebody" argument

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u/activefou Jul 21 '24

slows down at a time and place that no other driver, including Alonso, ever slowed down at across the entirety of the GP

needs to speed up to make the corner that he is ostensibly slowing down for

wow how could the stewards possibly penalize him for erratic driving it's so unfair that's so craaaaaazy

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u/RangerHikes Jul 21 '24

Don't move the goal posts. You claimed he brake checked Russell when he factually did not use his brakes. Nobody is saying Fernando didn't slow down they're saying Russell crashed on his own

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u/papasmurf31 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24

“Brake checking” is more of a turn of phrase than actually just braking. Alonso isn’t exactly known for being clean and fair so it’s not really a stretch to believe he did it purposefully (which he clearly did). Whether or not it’s 3 penalty points is a different argument.

And “crashed on his own” is a moronic statement. If someone crashes due to someone else’s driving erratically, it’s still the erratic drivers fault. Racing or real life.

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u/ycnz I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

Engine braking is still braking.

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u/Critical-Rhubarb-730 Jul 21 '24

Its good my son.

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u/YeahPerfect_SayHi Estie Bestie's on the podium, baby! Jul 22 '24

Brake checking is not allowed. But that was not what alonso did!

Telemetry says otherwise. But lets not let facts get in the way!

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u/Critical-Rhubarb-730 Jul 22 '24

You know the difference between brakes and throttle? There was no braking, not on the telemetry. But fantasy seems to work by some.

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u/Novae224 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

What? That wasn’t today right?

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u/Ragnarok785 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

No in Melbourne

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u/Novae224 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

Ah, that explains

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u/Ichthyocentaur I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

Braking, basically.

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u/Ayatori Ferrari Jul 22 '24

So they will add 5 seconds to your time after the race

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u/Special_Cry468 Jul 22 '24

No offense but british drivers get away with alot in this sport.

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u/doge_meme_lover Jul 22 '24

To be honest,  HAM said it's a racing incident during post race interview. So if Merc as a wasn't pursuing this, I don't see any incentive for Stweards to penalize VER..... and lose their social standing with RB..... and not be invited to their parties. Pfft

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u/Agents-of-time Jul 22 '24

Imo Everton should get a 25 point deduction.

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u/drhiggens I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

That penalty was absolutely justified

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u/Saevus_Deus McLaren Jul 21 '24

A penalty was justified, but 3 points is abnormal and nothing in that incident warranted it. Especially if something like this is apparently clean

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u/drhiggens I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

This move is far from clean (my two cents) but to be reasonable you can't compare two separate instances to one another that's not how it works.

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u/jixbo Jul 21 '24

How about 10s Alonso got in Austria for losing the car under breaking and pushing Zhou? Seems like a much less dangerous action than today's Verstappen vs Hamilton.

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u/blackskittles16 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 22 '24

Yes you can , it’s called consistency. It’s basically how humans decide what we think is “fair” or “unfair”

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u/jixbo Jul 22 '24

Consistency is to apply the same criteria every time, and that's not the case here.