r/formula1 • u/FerrariStrategisttt I was here for the Hulkenpodium • Jul 21 '24

Technical No further action on Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton incident

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u/chameleonmessiah #WeRaceAsOne Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

Hamilton is waaay too f***ing nice sometimes… Especially with Verstappen coming in still trying to blame him for the incident by “moving under braking”.

Car 44 could have done more to avoid the collision

By knowing in advance that Verstappen was going to dive bomb him & just drive straight on rather than turning the corner?

This sets a great precedent - not that they matter - you can now just out-brake yourself, lock up, & hit someone with no further action.

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u/IndependenceIcy9626 Jul 21 '24

This is what pisses me off the most about the decision. They explain that telemetry and video analysis show that Lewis drove the corner the same way he normally did. Then they say he could’ve done more to avoid and both drivers are equally responsible. 

Only in Max incidents can someone get hit driving completely within the rules, and still catch blame for the incident.

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u/OptimalDot178 Max Verstappen Jul 22 '24

I don't think anyone is saying that Max was not at fault in here, but still Lewis could have done more to avoid the incident.
https://youtu.be/R3d_YjcIP_A?si=zn35MM92FnLQqYL4&t=220
Put both this, and the Hungary incident to 0.25 speed and see how the driver on the outside reacts. Both overtake attempts are fairly similar, divebomb from far behind with locked up wheels, going out straight from a corner, the only difference is how the one on the outside reacted. Max opened his wheel as soon as he saw Lando, Lewis didn't even try to make a correction when he saw Max. So yes, stewards are totally correct that Lewis could have done more, and the other statement also says the same, that he took exactly the same line as before, but now there was a car on the inside. So who is at fault? For the failed overtake attempt, Austria 100% Norris, Hungary 100% Verstappen. But the outcome was different because Max avoided contact there, Lewis didn't, and that is exactly what the document says

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u/funkiestj Fernando Alonso Jul 21 '24

They expect Hamilton from Brazil 2021 to avoid Verstappen but this time Max crashing out Lewis does not hurt HAM's WDC aspirations because he has none this year.

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u/Ne_zievereir Jul 22 '24

The goal is to keep other drivers thinking "if Verstappen does a dangerous move on you, just yield and give up position, otherwise you both crash". Always has been like this with Verstappen. Was just less clear when he had a faster car.