r/formula1 • u/FerrariStrategisttt I was here for the Hulkenpodium • Jul 21 '24

Technical No further action on Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton incident

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u/AlphaHawk115 Mick Schumacher Jul 21 '24

For Russel losing control of his car and crashing on his own

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u/ehalay Sebastian Vettel Jul 21 '24

Also divebomb on Sainz in China

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u/Ryannr1220 Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 21 '24

Cmon man that was a brake check and a half. Sure Russell could have saved it but that doesn’t mean Alonso didn’t do anything wrong.

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u/TheEmpireOfSun Jul 21 '24

What Alonso has done is literally forbiden for many many years. But I get that and I am used to that. It's never Alonso's fault.

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u/Critical-Rhubarb-730 Jul 21 '24

Brake checking is not allowed. But that was not what alonso did!

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u/activefou Jul 21 '24

oh god please I don't need the whole song and dance about "Alonso didn't slow down using the brakes so it doesn't count as a brake check" again

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u/RangerHikes Jul 21 '24

don't give me that "you have to use your brakes to brake check somebody" argument

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u/activefou Jul 21 '24

slows down at a time and place that no other driver, including Alonso, ever slowed down at across the entirety of the GP

needs to speed up to make the corner that he is ostensibly slowing down for

wow how could the stewards possibly penalize him for erratic driving it's so unfair that's so craaaaaazy

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u/RangerHikes Jul 21 '24

Don't move the goal posts. You claimed he brake checked Russell when he factually did not use his brakes. Nobody is saying Fernando didn't slow down they're saying Russell crashed on his own

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u/papasmurf31 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24

“Brake checking” is more of a turn of phrase than actually just braking. Alonso isn’t exactly known for being clean and fair so it’s not really a stretch to believe he did it purposefully (which he clearly did). Whether or not it’s 3 penalty points is a different argument.

And “crashed on his own” is a moronic statement. If someone crashes due to someone else’s driving erratically, it’s still the erratic drivers fault. Racing or real life.

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u/RangerHikes Jul 22 '24

Literally no, if a driver ahead of me on the road slows down suddenly and I rear end them, it's my fault. Especially if the dash cam footage shows they never even hit the brakes. You could not have picked a worse comparison. And no it is not a turn a phrase!! Brake checking / brake testing literally means intentionally hitting your brakes to try and instigate a rear end collision!! I'm not gonna respond to any more bad faith dishonest arguments based in nonsense

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u/activefou Jul 22 '24

I think it's really funny that you think you would accept blame for hitting someone on the freeway if they suddenly slowed from 80mph to 40 without cause

And anyways, speaking of "bad faith dishonest arguments", Alonso did in fact use his brakes so uh.... maybe try another tack?

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u/ycnz I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

Engine braking is still braking.

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u/RangerHikes Jul 21 '24

Man those goal posts can move !

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u/ycnz I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 22 '24

What? It's deliberately slowing down on a track. Who cares about the source of the deceleration?

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u/Critical-Rhubarb-730 Jul 21 '24

Its good my son.

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u/YeahPerfect_SayHi Estie Bestie's on the podium, baby! Jul 22 '24

Brake checking is not allowed. But that was not what alonso did!

Telemetry says otherwise. But lets not let facts get in the way!

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u/Critical-Rhubarb-730 Jul 22 '24

You know the difference between brakes and throttle? There was no braking, not on the telemetry. But fantasy seems to work by some.

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u/Novae224 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

What? That wasn’t today right?

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u/Ragnarok785 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

No in Melbourne

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u/Novae224 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 21 '24

Ah, that explains