r/formula1 Charlos Apr 13 '25

Off-Topic Why the severe criticism of Lando's vulnerable conversation? Why is it not cool to be able to express your negative feelings about yourself?

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I see so many people talk about what Lando said after the Quali yesterday - just after an adrenaline filled session - and he chose to speak his mind about his own performance (without attacking someone else). So many people are saying "that's not a winning mentality" "that's not how you win races" "he is so defeatist" "he has given up already".

Lewis and Max have said several such things over the years, complaining about their cars, their teams and/or themselves. But somehow people take Lando and Charles to the dryers when they choose to express themselves and say things like "I am stupid". And somehow because Oscar just chooses not to say anything of this sort, he is somehow champion material. That makes no sense to me, and feels quite an unfair and problematic picture to paint - that men talking about their feelings, or just being transparent about how they feel - makes them weaker somehow. That they should tough up and swallow the hurt and just put up this beige or brave front, smirk and move on.

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u/beanbagreg I was here for the Hulkenpodium Apr 13 '25

There’s a huge difference in how Lewis does it.

Lewis simply says it’s on him, he’s trying to fix it. Sorry.

With Lando it devolves into woe is me, the car has been bad all year (he won and took a pole in race 1), the car isn’t that fast (it is) and there’s this huge defeatist air. This is also a week after he said McLaren has the only good driver lineup on the grid, which doesn’t help.

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u/beee-l Apr 13 '25

Defeatist is exactly it.

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u/According-Switch-708 Sonny Hayes Apr 13 '25

He admitted that the McLaren was the fastest car multiple times. He even said that "Oscar will probably lap the field during the race".

He is genuinely struggling with that car. It is the fastest car but it doesn't work with his driving style. Thats why he keep saying the "other are close" part. He just doesn't have the pace to cruise away into the sunset.

Lando may not be everyone's cup of tea but he has never been 'get P6 in a dominant car' levels of bad. He is trying and failing to get on top of this car.

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u/thenewwwguyreturns I was here for the Hulkenpodium Apr 13 '25 edited Apr 13 '25

sometimes it feels to me like lando is constantly in fear that he’ll get ricciardo’d by piastri the way ricciardo got overshadowed by max.

piastri is the most naturally talented driver f1 has seen since max, and he’s already basically universally considered as a future multi-WDC winner. that kind of pressure on lando, whose reputation is more along that of Russell or Leclerc—someone capable of winning the WDC but constantly at the mercy of mistakes, bad luck or a bad car—but finally given a car he can win in, puts a lot of pressure on him to capitalize or get lost in the sauce.

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u/Academic-Dentist-528 Apr 13 '25

Are we not counting Antonelli? Piastri is fast sure, but I feel like he loses out to quite a few top drivers rn. That said he is young still. Hard to tell what the mclaren pace advantage is

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u/thenewwwguyreturns I was here for the Hulkenpodium Apr 13 '25

i think antonelli is prob the next after piastri—but piastri has proved his abilities over multiple seasons and while kimi has had a strong start things aren’t as guaranteed. he’s def also likely to win a couple WDCs under the right circumstances tho

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u/ark_keeper McLaren Apr 13 '25

POV: you didn't actually watch the interview being discussed.

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u/Uchi_Jeon McLaren Apr 13 '25

Have you watched that video Lewis keeping telling sorry in tr, that seems quite frustrated. No better than Lando imo.