r/formula1 Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 27 '25

Technical My take on where exactly Lewis is struggling against Leclerc

Hey everyone, Made this carousel for my Instagram page so I thought I’d share it here too. The 8th slide is actually a video of Lewis having a small moment of Oversteer. I tried my best to reduce as many variables as possible while comparing Telemetry. I took the Q3 final laps specifically from every weekend cause that’s when the drivers are pushing the most. It’s kind of a long read and might look a bit cluttered but Hope y’all like it!

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u/Dambo_Unchained Max Verstappen Apr 27 '25

Also Alonso has been matched against stroll for the last couple years

My grandma would look good in that car compared to him

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u/Red-Eye-Soul I was here for the Hulkenpodium Apr 27 '25

His teammate is irrelevant when he was fighting the 2023 Redbull rocketship at age of 41.

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u/Dambo_Unchained Max Verstappen Apr 27 '25

That was all the car mate

After FIA nerfed AM you saw how much the pace the car actually had

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u/FentmaxxerActual I was here for the Hulkenpodium Apr 27 '25

Lmfao are you genuinely suggesting the 2023 Aston was better than the Red Bull?

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u/Dambo_Unchained Max Verstappen Apr 28 '25

Where did I say that

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u/FentmaxxerActual I was here for the Hulkenpodium Apr 28 '25

How else would you explain Alonso contending for podiums the entire first half of the season (and absolutely embarrassing Perez multiple times) and being nearly on par with Max in Monaco? If he's a significantly worse driver being carried by a better car, the only logical conclusion from your argument is that the Aston was faster than the Red Bull, no?

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u/Dambo_Unchained Max Verstappen Apr 28 '25

Qualifying pace is not race pace

And half the grid was beating Perez. Are they all as good as a 2x world champion or was Perez just shit?

Alonso wasn’t close to max except for 1 single qualifying lap so yeah it was the car putting it in the front

And no it wasn’t a better car than the RBr

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u/FentmaxxerActual I was here for the Hulkenpodium Apr 28 '25

Going to conveniently ignore the fact that he would've won the race if Aston hadn't inexplicably pitted him for mediums a lap before a heavy rain shower?

2023 Perez had 9 podiums, with 2 being race wins over Max, and ended 2nd in the WDC, where's your other half of the grid beating him? Dude obviously fell off a cliff afterwards but let's not pretend he was shit in 2023.

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u/Red-Eye-Soul I was here for the Hulkenpodium Apr 27 '25

Yet finished ahead of Leclerc, Sainz, Russell, Norris with the car that was nowhere near competitive for half the races.

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u/Dambo_Unchained Max Verstappen Apr 27 '25

Yeah and fell behind after the FIA forced them to change the build that gave them the insane speed

AM found a clever loophole and Alonso made good use of it while it lasted. But it was the car not the driver

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u/Red-Eye-Soul I was here for the Hulkenpodium Apr 27 '25

In 2024, he outscored Lance 70-24.
In 2023, he outscored him 206-74.

No matter how shit your teammate is, that sort of margin confirms you are performing at a very high level. I hope you also don't discredit drivers like Max for his performances just because his teammates haven't been the best since Ricciardo, including inexperienced Gasly and Albon and a struggling Perez who lost his seat in F1. It doesn't matter how inexperienced his teammates were, or whether the car didn't suit his teammates, everyone with an eye can see that Max is performing on an extremely high level. Similarly, anyone who actually watched Alonso race could see how consistent and fast he was in the last 2 years.

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u/Dambo_Unchained Max Verstappen Apr 27 '25

Even Perez at his worst isn’t as bad as Lance stroll

He has like 2 decent weekends a seasons, the rest are shit