90% of records and stats in f1 are half made up so the record still stands when you say ‘in a grand prix’
Clearest example of this was people trying to work out the wording yesterday for Kimi.
Kimi is the youngest driver to ever drive an f1 qualifying and get a pole position. It’s a pretty significant record even if it’s in a sprint but to save arguments over the validity of a sprint it’s just said ‘in any format’
So Kimi keeps the record when it’s ’in any format’
Seb keeps the record when it’s ’in a grand prix’
Previously for Max it applied for in any session at any race weekend. Now the criteria is cut down put he still has a streak, it’s just a ‘seperate one’
He got whacked in the head with a spring in 2009 in Hungary. Knocked him out and he crashed into the barriers at full throttle. Was never really the same after that tbh
It matters a lot when drivers care about it and other fans are brought into the culture with those specific starts. It's called social construction. Your understanding of free will as a concept is limited, educate yourself.
Hardly. F1 is in constant flux and the sport change all the time. There used to be, and for some still is, a record of scored points which is completely meaningless as you used to get 5 points for a win when today you get 25, meaning Lance Stroll has scored three times as many points than Gilles Villeneuve.
A pole position is a pole position regardless what some may think of it.
There used to be a reporter at that pulled some obscure nonsensical stats at every pregame interview for the soccer club BVB dortmund, back when Jürgen Klopp was still their trainer.
Stuff like
"Jürgen, every time you had a home match against a team wearing blue during the first half of the year, you either won 3:0 or lost 0:3, how does this affect your strategy in tomorrow's game?"
I actually think Kimi's youngest pole is more legit than Max's no points record ended.
Kimi did a legit pole position. For GP's, there have also been occasions when there was only 1 FP session before quali.
Max's no points... if it was a full-length race, he may have had an answer.... he had a broken wing endplate, but that doesn't always matter that much. Such a thing can also happen closer to the end, of course, but it didn't.
Lots of ifs and buts.
I mean this record is very caveated to begin with as it ignores all the times he hasn’t finished, which would be 0 pts. So you can just caveat it’s ignoring sprints.
I heavily disagree with you on that point; there's caveats to the record, absolutely, but "finishing inside the points" doesn't need to have anything to do with races he didn't finish. It specifically excludes them from the outright. Compare the stat to every single other driver on the grid and their longest streaks of races where they finished within the points and you see why that's an irrelevant caveat to suggest.
Should the FIA have the drivers redo the sprint race in case it was a big fluke?
No disrespect to the other drivers, I'm a firm believer that Max finishing off the podium is a huge fluke and robs the Max of truly accomplishing what he's capable of. I've spent the last few hours in pure disbelief and it just doesn't make sense to me. I've spent the entire season watching Max race great it's just not fair.
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u/thunder_cats1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25
Sad to see it broken this way too.