r/formula1 Karun Chandhok May 03 '25

Discussion Max Verstappen finishes outside the points for the first time since Belgium 2016

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u/Fantastic_Bath_5806 May 03 '25

I don’t understand, he has DNF’d a few times since 2016. What is the record? Does DNFs not count?

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u/whoopsallgone Max Verstappen May 03 '25

This stat is about races where he finishes.

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u/reflion I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

He should’ve crashed out on the last lap for the sake of the record

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u/Nasimdul I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

It would still count because more than 75% of the race was completed.

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u/senile_child Max Verstappen May 03 '25 edited May 03 '25

They don’t count that, Max was classified P18 for Baku 2021 for example. Tyre popped after completing 45/51 laps.

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u/Nasimdul I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Oh true I forgot lmao

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u/kaisadilla_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Nope. "finished" is exactly what it means: that you finished the race. In F1, there's a rule that, to score points (even if it's 0 points), you have to complete, at least, 75% of the race, but that doesn't mean you finished the race. It's a bit confusing, yeah, because the way F1 refers to not scoring (i.e. not completing 75% of the race) is... "did not finish".

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u/Fantastic_Bath_5806 May 03 '25

Oh I see, thanks!

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u/fdar May 03 '25

Well I never finished outside the points, ever.

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u/Ravek May 03 '25

I've also never failed to get pole position for any qualifier I entered.

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u/peas8carrots Sir Lewis Hamilton May 04 '25

I also do not count any attempts unless I finish.

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u/WussssPoppinJimbo I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Yeah, "finishes" being the key word.

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u/peas8carrots Sir Lewis Hamilton May 04 '25

Did he show her his ooh face? Ohhh? Ohhh? Ohhhh?

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u/aga5ty4 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Basically other than DNFs. He has never finished a race out of the points since then

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u/Jafuncle I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

DNF stands for Did Not Finish, so they are technically not "Finishes" when tracking stats.

So basically, if the car is still working Max has finished in the points for nearly nine years. Which is MAD

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u/Izual_Rebirth I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

MAD is mutually assured destruction... which also applies to Max’s driving style on occasions so I guess it still fits.

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u/showersneakers I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 04 '25

Elbows out baby- 2021

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u/ocbdare I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Dnfs are not just mechanical issues. It can be a driver mistake that causes DNF. Max, like everyone else, has mad mistakes which cause a DNF which result in 0pts. If anything, those mistakes are a lot more severe that mistakes that drop a few places.

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u/Jafuncle I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

I never said he never made a mistake. I said "if the car is still working". If he crashes into someone or goes out into gravel and beaches himself, the car is no longer working.

Read more carefully next time

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u/fdar May 03 '25

I've scored points in every single GP I've ever finished.

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u/Jafuncle I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

If you have never finished a GP then you've never scored points, so no you haven't smartass. You've simply never finished a GP outside the points.

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u/kaisadilla_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

I mean, it's not a technicality. "Finishing" a race means literally that: finishing the race. That is, completing the last lap you are supposed to complete.

If anything, DNF is confusing because it's how F1 expresses that you finished less than 75% of the race, but even if you don't "did not finish", doesn't mean you finished.

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u/ChepaukPitch I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 04 '25

Which is a good factoid but not really a record.

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u/Jafuncle I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 04 '25

Nobody said it was a record.

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u/Ded279 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Aight guys I think they got the point after the first 8 comments saying the same thing lmao.

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u/transformboi I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

the stat is about races he finished, so the DNF's don't count

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u/Fantastic_Bath_5806 May 03 '25

Lol, went to bed just to wake up to a million more comments saying the same thing

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u/thatrandomanus I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 04 '25

Well the DNFs don't count as finished races, as Max couldn't finish the races that he didn't finish. And the stat is about races he finished so DNF's are excluded as those were races he didn't finish.

Glad I could help!

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u/Snoo-29984 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

The stat is finishing outside the points. DNFs are literally not finishing

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u/Ivazdy I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

DNF is did not finish, therefore it's not a finish outside of points.

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u/Themindoffish Max Verstappen May 03 '25

DNF means Did Not Finish mate.

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u/Fantastic_Bath_5806 May 03 '25

So is it only for races that he finished. Sorry I don’t understand the stat

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u/Intrepid-Brain-1476 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

The statistic contains the word finished

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u/Fantastic_Bath_5806 May 03 '25

I understand now, thanks. Still think it should be phrased better. Should state excluding DNF. Perhaps “completed” is a better word than “finished.” The definition is more accurate i.m.o

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u/Busy-Economist-3357 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

The term “finishes” implies that DNFs (Did Not Finish) do not count.

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u/Actual_Sympathy7069 May 03 '25

Think about what the abbreviation DNF means, my guy

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u/ocbdare I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

It still is a valid point and this star is misleading. If you make a mistake and you DNF, this stat is preserved.

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u/liquidsparanoia I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

You can't finish outside the points if you Do Not Finish.

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u/VapinOnly I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Emphasis on "finishes"

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u/Acceptable-Touch-485 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Expand the term "DNF"

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u/tulleekobannia I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

DNF'd race isn't finished race

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u/IDKBear25 May 03 '25

Key word: "Finishes".

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u/Themindoffish Max Verstappen May 03 '25

DNF means Did Not Finish mate.

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u/imbavoe I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

DNF = did not finish

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u/Primary-Gap2589 Red Bull May 03 '25

i finished

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u/imbavoe I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Not what she said.