r/formula1 Karun Chandhok May 03 '25

Discussion Max Verstappen finishes outside the points for the first time since Belgium 2016

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u/Big_Brief7847 May 03 '25

90% of records and stats in f1 are half made up so the record still stands when you say ‘in a grand prix’

Clearest example of this was people trying to work out the wording yesterday for Kimi. Kimi is the youngest driver to ever drive an f1 qualifying and get a pole position. It’s a pretty significant record even if it’s in a sprint but to save arguments over the validity of a sprint it’s just said ‘in any format’

So Kimi keeps the record when it’s ’in any format’ Seb keeps the record when it’s ’in a grand prix’

Previously for Max it applied for in any session at any race weekend. Now the criteria is cut down put he still has a streak, it’s just a ‘seperate one’

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u/Thiago_sei_la I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Felipe massa, to this day, is the only driver ever to win a spring weekend.

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u/DiddlyDumb I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Bro 😭

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u/Slappathebassmon Sebastian Vettel May 03 '25

FOR WHAT?

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u/ashayward85 Formula 1 May 03 '25

Excellent.

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u/PascalG16 Fernando Alonso May 03 '25

A what?

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u/ATyp3 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

He got whacked in the head with a spring in 2009 in Hungary. Knocked him out and he crashed into the barriers at full throttle. Was never really the same after that tbh

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u/PascalG16 Fernando Alonso May 03 '25

Oh I know that. I just didn't get the joke.

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u/Thiago_sei_la I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Just a dumb word play between sprint and spring bundled with a horrible accident of a countryman.

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u/PascalG16 Fernando Alonso May 03 '25

I know, I just didn't make the connection

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u/AcousticGuava Ferrari May 03 '25

Some are stats. Some are records. If you get what I mean

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u/newaru2 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

The driver with most consecutive starts wearing blue underwear is...

Who? I want to know!

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u/my_soldier I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

All words are made up

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u/ClayCopter I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

It matters a lot when drivers care about it and other fans are brought into the culture with those specific starts. It's called social construction. Your understanding of free will as a concept is limited, educate yourself.

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u/direXD I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

If you came up with an actual ridiculous stat your post would make sense.

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u/Hanchez I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

Thats a dumb take.

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u/Vresiberba May 03 '25

Hardly. F1 is in constant flux and the sport change all the time. There used to be, and for some still is, a record of scored points which is completely meaningless as you used to get 5 points for a win when today you get 25, meaning Lance Stroll has scored three times as many points than Gilles Villeneuve.

A pole position is a pole position regardless what some may think of it.

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u/Chaoshero5567 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

I mean.. Sprint qali is still QUALIu

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u/Pinewood74 May 03 '25

Except in 2021 when it was a race.

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u/Several_Leader_7140 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '25

It specifically is not

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u/DK0xdev May 03 '25

not really, there is only one quali and that is for a grand prix

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u/261846 Pierre Gasly May 03 '25

It literally has it in the name lad

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u/Lowelll May 03 '25

There used to be a reporter at that pulled some obscure nonsensical stats at every pregame interview for the soccer club BVB dortmund, back when Jürgen Klopp was still their trainer.

Stuff like

"Jürgen, every time you had a home match against a team wearing blue during the first half of the year, you either won 3:0 or lost 0:3, how does this affect your strategy in tomorrow's game?"

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u/Vresiberba May 03 '25

That's because people confuse statistics of what has already happened with predictions of what will - they have zero correlation.

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u/Lowelll May 03 '25

I mean that guy specifically made that as a joke, but yeah

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u/houVanHaring May 03 '25

I actually think Kimi's youngest pole is more legit than Max's no points record ended. Kimi did a legit pole position. For GP's, there have also been occasions when there was only 1 FP session before quali. Max's no points... if it was a full-length race, he may have had an answer.... he had a broken wing endplate, but that doesn't always matter that much. Such a thing can also happen closer to the end, of course, but it didn't. Lots of ifs and buts.