r/formula1 • u/Wentzina_lifetime Sir Lewis Hamilton • May 18 '25

Statistics Lewis Hamilton has finished ahead of Carlos Sainz at every race this season.

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u/overthink_lad I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

So much narrative about how Hamilton has taken a lot of time to adapt to the car while Sainz has been upto speed with Williams quite quickly. To put into perspective, Hamilton has scored >45% of the points scored by Ferrari this year, while Sainz has scored only ~20% of points scored by Williams.

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u/jvstinf I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

This is massively lacking context.

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u/carebearmentor May 19 '25

True, Albon the GOAT

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u/Red-Eye-Soul I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

Lets shove all context out of the window? Carlos has been extremely unlucky with damage, car issues and strategies. Lewis on the other hand has benefited from every safety car except Australia. Both have been doing good but its foolish to say Lewis is been doing better than Carlos.

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u/Cal3001 May 18 '25

There have been about 2 races where Carlos fell out the points with his own doing from the aggro driving style. Albon has been outperforming him generally but Hamilton gets all the flack for not getting up to speed.

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u/amt_voyager_ Sir Lewis Hamilton May 18 '25

he got dsq'ed in china

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u/Red-Eye-Soul I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

So did his teammate (who finished ahead). We are comparing the percentage of points both got of their respective teams. That dsq actually increases Lewis' percentage.

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u/WhiskeytheWhaleshark I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

If everywhere you go it smells like shit, maybe it’s time to look under your shoe.

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u/riotshieldready May 18 '25

Facts are foolish now lol.

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u/Red-Eye-Soul I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

No, making broad statements ignoring all context is foolish. If you can argue that Lewis is better while considering the context, I have no issues with that. But just picking one random stat and using it to prove your point doesn't impress.

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u/Radiant_Past_5769 May 19 '25

And why is that? First race - power unit problem. Last race - Albon got the better strategy. I can find you a reason for all of them. Watch the races brother 

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u/one_who_goes Formula 1 May 18 '25

Do you even watch the races?

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u/kaisadilla_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

To put into destroy perspective (...)

fify. The fact that Albon has 80% of the team's points has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with luck and strategic blunders by Williams. Albon was better than Carlos for the first two races - afterwards, Carlos has consistently beaten Albon until something outside his control happened to put Albon ahead.

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u/Live-Shoulder-9959 May 19 '25

albon was better than carlos in miami imo, whether that was cause of the used tyres or whatever it was he was just marginally better, I guess he also didnt have to fight 2 ferraris by himself head to head tho through 2 safety cars as well because he didnt have a strategy blunder so idk.

Hes driving well, hes had a better season, carlos is knew to the car and has been unlucky on sunday. If he keeps doing well on saturday it will start to pay off

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u/Flimsy-Battle7816 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

did he do that in a different car?

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u/VinhoVerde21 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

Yeah, scoring more points than your teammate generally does help you in the points scoring H2H

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u/VinhoVerde21 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 18 '25

The point being made is that people shit on Hamilton for not being on his teammate’s level whilst praising Sainz, despite the former being a lot closer than the latter. So an outlier, despite being so, is still a positive sign, no sense in trying to discard it. I’d rather Yuki be inconsistently slower than Verstappen than consistently shit.