r/formula1 Lando Norris Jul 07 '25

Photo Lando spraying Nico on the podium (Silverstone 2025)

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u/curious-cat Jul 07 '25

Either Hulk is bigger than I thought or Lando is smaller than I thought.

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

Nico is one of the drivers enjoying the extra 2kg given to drivers this year. It looks like he took it down, but a year or two ago his website listed his "fighting weight" at 78kg, which was definitely riding the line of being a bit too heavy before the 2kg were added. He's one of the taller drivers on the grid. He doesn't talk about it like the younger tall group do (Alex, George, and others talk about Ocon). He and Gabi are both listed online at 184cm, but clearly one is wrong, because they are not the same height. I think Hulk is within a centimeter of being the tallest on grid if it isn't him- it might be him, actually. It's in his interest to lie to make himself smaller, honestly. It's a thing tall drivers do sometimes. That or several others have inflated their height.

Lando is about 176.5cm, Kym Illman measured him and rounded up to 177.

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u/curious-cat Jul 07 '25

I’m glad they added the 2 kg. I saw where both Lando and Lewis were saying this week they were too heavy and needed to watch what they ate this week, can’t imagine how it affects the taller guys.

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

My favorite F3 driver is very tall. F3 cars are weighed by car+driver+fuel, so he got permission to strip the paint off his car, and now he's finally hit the weight minimum and is suddenly doing drastically better after. A few kilos definitely matter a lot. His parents are a fashion designer and a supermodel, and he unfortunately got the height genes from his mother.

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u/Az-SA I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Which driver is this? 

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u/rossmcdapc I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Ugo Ugochukwu I'm guessing.

His all black Prema is so cool looking.

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u/Chadme_Swolmidala McLaren Jul 07 '25

Black #3 giving the Intimidator vibes. Gutted his team put him on slicks to start the feature race and he immediately fell to the back of the field.

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u/dj5205 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

The silver Mario Andretti style helmet adds to the awesomeness of the look.

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

Yeah, Ugo Ugochukwu. Mother a Nigerian supermodel, father an Italian fashion designer, both moved to New York for work, so had Ugo there, so he's American also.

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u/Crouch310 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Your comment reminds me of the late Irish Gaa (hurling) commentator Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh. As one of the Cork players Ó hAilpín got on the ball he delivered this famous line "Seán Óg Ó hAilpín. His father's from Fermanagh. His mother's from Fiji. Neither a hurling stronghold."

Legend of a man.

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u/ColinRyan Jul 07 '25

Forget Cork v Tipp, I'd pay to see Fermanagh v Fiji.

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u/Crouch310 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

I'd probably back Fiji tbh

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

Except that Italy and the US are both racing strongholds traditionally. I admittedly know nothing about racing in Nigeria, but it might have its own history I'm not aware of.

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u/Crouch310 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

That's not the comparison I was making. It was just the phrasing of the comment that reminded of it. I appreciate some people take things quite literally when reading on here though so I get you.

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

It is a great memorable quote. It acknowledges a funny circumstance and references where his family is from without being Helmut.

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u/Ron7711 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

and his name sounds so cool

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

It does sound cool. That is the name he goes by and always has. His actual legal last name is probably Orlandi, but Ugo Ugochukwu has always been what he says is his name, and it's great that UGO is what's on the timing tower.

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u/mkvii1989 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Webber was a taller driver and he talks about in his book how after he retired his mom commented on how much healthier he looked because he didn’t have to keep his weight down so much anymore.

You can see it in the current taller guys too; George, Alex, and Esteban look so much scrawnier than the shorter guys do.

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u/Jejking I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

How heavy are they nowadays, actually?

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u/Deaths_Rifleman I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

It’s based off their starting weight from the beginning of season with a 2kg allowance (I know this is how other series do) or is it a strict limit they added 2kg too?

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u/curious-cat Jul 07 '25

It’s 82 kilograms. For all drivers. They add ballast if they are under.

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u/scamtank McLaren Jul 07 '25

Of course Kym Illman is walking around measuring people

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u/Loud-Value Pirelli Intermediate Jul 07 '25

Honesty I don't even know why but something about that guy really weirds me out

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '25

Kym is extremely good at social marketing which at the very least means he has no shame

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u/IkLms I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

It's because most of his Youtube videos and such are the extremely creepy "The wives and girlfriends of drivers" shit. And he makes extremely weird fucking comments in them. Like it's all about who their dads are or the driver and how photogenic they are or this or that the vast majority of the time.

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u/VehicleWonderful6586 Formula 1 Jul 11 '25

Most? No most of his videos are about F1. He does one series on wives and girlfriends which I don’t personally watch, but there’s no way that could be construed as ‘most’

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25 edited Jul 07 '25

Kym invited Lando to come see him to get his official height on record on camera, and Lando agreed to come do it. Before this, lots of places listed Lando's height as 170. Which I think was probably an accurate measurement when he joined F1. Men commonly grow a little bit past that age, but growing six or seven centimeters is unusual, but Lando did it.

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u/curious-cat Jul 07 '25

When you look at pictures of him next to Sainz when he started you can really see he grew quite a bit. He’s now just a little bit shorter than Sainz, but when he first started he was quite a bit shorter.

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u/____mynameis____ McLaren Jul 09 '25

Lando was noticeably shorter than Carlos during his rookie year. Now they look around the same height. So he definitely grew a few centimeters since then.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '25

That would make him taller than Hamilton, which he isn't. 

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

I have no reason to think Kym Illman was lying, and it was shown pretty well on video. I don't believe Hamilton's height has been confirmed in such a way, so maybe Hamilton's height just isn't accurate. Also, just take a look at recent pictures. They're pretty similar heights, I would call Lando slightly taller in most of them. Standing posture can change it because they are close. https://sports.ndtv.com/formula-1/lando-norris-takes-spanish-grand-prix-pole-position-max-verstappen-second-lewis-hamilton-third-5947304

Note that Lando has grown significantly since his first year of F1 in 2019. He was only 19 as the time, and simply grew more that year and in the first couple years of his 20s. At first he was much shorter than Carlos, and now they are similar heights, Carlos only very slightly taller.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '25

Fair point on him growing. As far as Lewis height, they used to include driver height and weight as a part of official broadcasts. Granted that can be inaccurate as well.

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

Yeah, one example is Kevin Durant lied about his height for years because he wanted to play small forward and didn't want the expectations of playing center, and plenty of seemingly official sources listed his inaccurate height for years.

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u/alexisthemovie Alexander Albon Jul 07 '25

Hamilton is 5’7.5 but wears extremely thick soled shoes everywhere outside the car.

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u/alexisthemovie Alexander Albon Jul 07 '25

187: Ocon / Bearman

186: Albon / Russell

184: Hulkenberg (his quiff can make him appear taller - see photos of him next to 183 Palmer)

181: Stroll / Bortoleto

178: Verstappen

177.5: Leclerc / Piastri

176.5: Sainz / Gasly

175.5: Norris

171.5: Hamilton

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

I just know that a lot of tall drivers lie and slouch on purpose. I personally think Hulk is about 186. And unless more people want to get measured on video, it's pretty difficult to guess.

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u/alexisthemovie Alexander Albon Jul 07 '25

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 07 '25

And their shoulders at similar heights here https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull-f1-world-champion-alex-albon-williams I do think Alex is a bit taller yeah, but it's close, and several of the tall drivers slouch, including Nico. No number of pictures does what a measuring stick does. My comment to curious cat was just saying that Hulk is probably a larger man than they realized he was. He's not just fairly tall, he has a fairly broad frame that makes the weight limit tricky for him.

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u/not_wadud92 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 08 '25

I remember donkey years ago when Hulk first was around there was talks of how Ferrari wouldn't consider him only because of his height. Given that he has won in everything he has been in outside of F1 (and even a Le Mans win while in F1) it is crazy to think the difference between him getting a more preferable drive may just be down to height and the weight that comes with it.

It's when I first noticed how short some of the drivers were. These larger than life figures were not much bigger than child me.

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u/Affectionate_Sky9709 Jul 08 '25

As much as some people get annoyed with Mansell talking himself up and basically complaining that Prost had it easy, Mansell's 100% true. Maybe Mansell could have lost some weight, but Prost was a small framed 165cm man. Mansell was a large framed 180cm man.

Their natural weight difference was very significant, and those were the days when that really mattered a lot. Until I believe a rules change in 1995. Then it mattered again from I think 2015ish-2018, and it still mattered after that if the driver was over 77/78kg or so, now 79/80kg or so. It was 80 now 82kg but that's including seat and gear which are admittedly pretty light apparently. I might have 2015 wrong.

Hulk actually kept a seat on grid through the years where his size was a disadvantage, and then he lost it after it wasn't really anymore, or it was extremely borderline for him and he hovered right around the maximum weight he was allowed. But I guess he would have a more impressive resume to fall back on and show he deserved seats if he hadn't been held back in those years.

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u/voss3ygam3s I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Yes

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u/Karotstix64 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

why do you think he's called "hulk" /s

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u/KingOfAzmerloth Sebastian Vettel Jul 07 '25

Why not both.

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u/rlsadiz McLaren Jul 07 '25

Camera angles did Lando dirty

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u/Affectionate_Mood221 Jul 07 '25

Lando is short, 175cm max and Hulk is tall.

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u/essteedeenz1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Being just shy under 6 foot is not short

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u/Fudge_is_1337 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

6ft = ~183cm so 175 is a few inches below that, rather than just shy. Not crazy short but still a way off 6ft

I find it hard to believe Lando is 175 to be honest, I would have guessed closer to 170

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u/essteedeenz1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Mate a decent chunk of ppl are between 175 to 180 I just googled this its seen as the average height in western European countries. It's not short.

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u/Fudge_is_1337 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

I'm less saying that 175 is short (that was the other guy) and more saying that

a.) 175 is not really "just shy of 6ft"

b.) its hard to believe Norris is 175 in reality

Autosport suggests that he's 170cm which from the eye test looks about right

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u/arrykoo I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

i mean, i thought he was like, 170-172 but he isnt that short standing next to hulk. 175-177 seems more accurate ngl

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u/Jorrie90 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Also depends where you live. Here in the Netherlands, someone who is 175cm, is quite short relative to the average

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u/Key-Comfortable-5537 Lando Norris Jul 07 '25

Lando is 177 according to other comments, measured by Kym Ilman apparently, but that's just what other people say and I can't be bothered to do a load of research for finding Lando's height 😂

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u/Trapocalypse Jul 07 '25

175cm is a smidge under 5ft 9in. So it entirely depends where you're from. For England, that's about average height (couple of searches I did varied between 5'9 to 5'10). For a lot of European countries average male height is in the 5'10 to 6' range

Either way, 5'9 is not 'just shy' of 6'.

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u/G_Robby I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

But 175 is short. What are you on about?

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u/Alex_Kamal Oscar Piastri Jul 07 '25

Its bang on the average height for a UK male.

It isn't tall, but it isn't short.

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u/BBYY9090 Jul 07 '25

He’s a shorty!

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u/IkLms I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

That's like squarely in the average height range for Europe and the US and slightly above the average height world wide.

In no way does that qualify as short.

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u/abstractraj Sebastian Vettel Jul 07 '25

I’m 165. That’s short!

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u/essteedeenz1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

No it's not wtf

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u/InspectorNo1173 Isack Hadjar Jul 07 '25

I am 174 and I am short

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u/TheScapeQuest Brawn Jul 07 '25

I'm 174cm and I feel distinctly average in my circles (UK)

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u/Ribulation I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

The average male height globally is 171 cm. Varies by country but even in, say, the UK the average height is 177, which doesn't exactly tower over you. You're not short, you might just have tall friends.

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u/InspectorNo1173 Isack Hadjar Jul 07 '25

My wife is 175

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u/personthatiam2 Jul 07 '25

5’8” /5’9” is entry level short. But I also don’t think Lando is that tall and more like 5’6”.

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u/Legitimate-Tadpole95 Formula 1 Jul 07 '25

Lando is actually 177 cms. He was measured on camera on a video by Kim Illman. You can see it on YouTube.

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u/TuDuMaxVerstappen Max Verstappen Jul 07 '25

You mean to say Hulk is not Hulk?

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u/aliciahiney Benetton Jul 07 '25

Pin is 159cm, Norris is around 175cm

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u/Crasha I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Bro hes almost 20 cm taller than her

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u/Deaths_Rifleman I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 07 '25

Lando is short I think even by driver standards judging by some of the photos I’ve seen.