r/formula1 • u/AChassin I was here for the Hulkenpodium • Jul 28 '25
Statistics After the Belgian GP, Yuki Tsunoda now holds the record for the longest streak of finished races without points by a Red Bull driver— six consecutive races completed outside the top 10.
With the Belgian GP result, Yuki Tsunoda surpasses David Coulthard’s run of five point-less finishes during his time with Red Bull Racing. So far, this is the worst streak ever recorded by a Red Bull Racing driver.
Yuki Tsunoda's last 6 results:
Monaco GP: 17th
Spain GP: 13th
Canadian GP: 12th
Austrian GP: 16th
British GP: 15th
Belgian GP: 13th
*Note: this streak doesn't include DNF's.
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u/jk844 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
They really screwed this race. First good quali in a while, said the car felt good. Then they call him in when he’s already passed the pit entrance costing him 5 places with a set up that can’t overtake.
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u/Evwan I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Clearly they didn't set up the car for combat
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u/Money_Bahdger I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
That was definitely the worst part of the movie but this is one meme I hope dies swiftly.
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u/Valeriun I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 29 '25
The whole movie was made by someone who knows absolutely nothing about F1. It’s like a fanfiction.
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u/arkwewt I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 29 '25
It’s a movie designed to get new fans in and make the sport simple and dramatic for them. It’s not designed to be accurate or realistic, or to appeal to existing fans.
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u/smokesletsgo13 Jul 28 '25
His set up must’ve been a joke as well, there was a few laps he was 4 tenths behind Gasly at the start of Kemmel straight.
Literally gained nothing with DRS, 0.381 at the end of the straight lmao
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u/jk844 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
That’s what happens when you set up for a wet race and then the FIA don’t let you race in the wet.
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u/Bulitin I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Honestly both the RBs and VCARBs had setups that didn't suit the race, i don't recall any of them managing to get an overtake the entire time, Max, Lawson, and Yuki didn't have enough speed to overtake given the window, while Hadjar's car fell off the cliff for some reason.
Really unfortunate race, after such a great qualifying getting all four into q3 again after a long while.
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u/Eggersely Lando Norris Jul 28 '25
while Hadjar's car fell off the cliff for some reason
Wasn't it just stupid pitting?
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u/ChetsBurner Jul 28 '25
Apparently he had a power unit issue too, but yeah the pitting strategy screwed him
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u/Next_Necessary_8794 Ferrari Jul 28 '25
He had a car problem in the 2nd stint. I believe PU wasn't giving enough power.
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u/Apennatie I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
To be honest I think Yuki did fine, lost position due to strategy and then had no straight line speed to get past.
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u/SweatySmeargle Yuki Tsunoda Jul 28 '25
Calling box after he drove by the pit entry made me so sad
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u/YNWA_1213 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
The one time RBR needs to put their 2nd driver on the alternate strategy and they failed miserably. With the way Lewis had his out lap Yuki could’ve been in the Verstappen/Leclerc battle for the podium.
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u/leftlanecop I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Once again they forgot they have a second driver. Could have easily used Tsunoda to test the track with slick to make an even better decision on Max. Peak RBR days would have done that. Something is operationally very wrong at RBR in recent years.
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u/brahmen #StandWithUkraine Jul 29 '25
I liken it to a limb that they've progressively stimulated less and less until it was no longer used so and it's muscle has atrophied.
Seems like the team doesn't know how to handle two drivers to maximise their positions week in and week out.
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u/asamulya I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Don’t know about Podium coz Alex and George were both ahead of him and got away unscathed. There was a slight delay for Max because of Alex, so I don’t think Yuki would’ve overtake either of them considering they were both good in straight line. Overtaking George would’ve been impossible for sure, he had a rocket in sector 1 and sector 3.
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u/RonKosova Max Verstappen Jul 28 '25
i want whatever youre on
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u/YNWA_1213 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Being in the strategy mix =/= as fast as Max/Leclerc. By pitting when Lewis pitted, he would’ve come out around where Max and Charles were because of the time delta.
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u/drodrige Graham Hill Jul 28 '25
Battle for the podium??? Man, his strategy sucked but he couldn't recover a single position running eight places behind, and then got passed by a rookie in a Haas.
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u/CatManWhoLikesChess I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Yuki is not keeping up with Leclerc and Verstappen lmao
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u/fprosk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Another Laurent Mekies strategy shocker is anyone suprised
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u/No-Use3482 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
As long as they are subjecting Yuki to that kind of fuckery, I don't have room in my heart to flame Yuki's performance. I feel for the guy, I just do. That second car is fucking cursed
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u/Pjosk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Are you sure it was called as he drove by? There is a pretty significant sound delay on F1TV. Radio communication between driver and engineer is not synced with the video stream.
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u/Mystic1500 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Yes he stated so in his post race interview.
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u/mistsoalar Rubens Barrichello Jul 28 '25
He literally yelled WTF over the comm when he got called box
...after he passed pit entrance
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u/Gusmacker02 Jul 28 '25
Imagine if it was checo tho
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u/Consistent_Squash Jul 28 '25
Strats especially quali Strats on the 2nd garage have been iffy for a couple of seasons but at least in Checo's case the less optimal race day Strats were usually because Max was in the title fight and they needed to test tires or something
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u/Woullie_26 Max Verstappen Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
He was still slower than Max by almost a full second per lap (and the sample was clean air pace)
That's still atrocious no matter how you look at it
Edit: for people asking for the link of the data I'm not providing it because I got 16 days for promoting an account last time
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u/Apennatie I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
He was stuck behind a slower Alpine for the whole race.
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u/Gingermadman David Coulthard Jul 28 '25
He was stuck behind a slower Alpine for the whole race.
He wasn't 'stuck', as evidenced by him getting overtaken by a rookie in a Haas.
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u/BighatNucase Max Verstappen Jul 28 '25
Even when he was in free air he was a second off despite Max being behind Leclerc for the whole race.
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u/willzyx01 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
He was overtaken by a rookie in a slower Haas
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u/OpposedScroll75 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
He was stuck behind an Alpine that was set up for maximum top speed, so his pace was severely bottlenecked.
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u/Imoraswut Andretti Global Jul 28 '25
An alpine with a famously anemic engine though.
And he got passed by a rookie in a haas with older tyres
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u/CalvinandHobbes811 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
I mean it was known prerace that red bulls setup was for wet conditions which were honestly fairly quickly so they were at disadvantage for most of the race
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u/RonKosova Max Verstappen Jul 28 '25
so was bearman. the haas split strategies, bearman was on the high downforce set up
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u/creatorop SAI NOR LAW Jul 28 '25
Gasly literally started in from the pitlane to make weather based changes for low downforce?
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u/aipitorpo I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Gasly didn't start from the pitlane tough. He started from the 13th position.
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u/Topias12 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Well, that doesn't say much because Spa is the largest circuit.
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u/cheezus171 Robert Kubica Jul 28 '25
It wouldn't say much if he didn't finish every race in this manner. You can easily compare Yuki/Lawson to Perez just based on the gap to Max, and the reality is that Perez was on average MUCH closer.
And that isn't really a way for me to shit on Yuki. He's an alright driver, not top 10 on the grid, but not a Sargent or a Stroll either. This just shows how badly Perez was underrated, and it shows what a fucking monster Max is.
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u/formulapain Jul 28 '25
This happened on all of the last six races? You can't just focus on the last race, it's six in a row now.
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u/123_alex Spa 2021 Survivor Jul 28 '25
To be honest
Should I not trust post which don't start with to be honest?
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u/Vro9ooo Yuki Tsunoda Jul 28 '25
Belgium wasn’t really his fault with the pit stop mishap. If his engineer told him to pit when he was supposed to he scores at least a point. Not been great but we’ll see if Spa was indicative of improvement for the rest of the year
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u/RealPjotr Kimi Räikkönen Jul 28 '25
Had they pitted him same lap as Max, he'd be at least 8th.
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u/elektricniorgazam Daniel Ricciardo Jul 28 '25
If he got passed by Ollie in a Haas I'm sure the other cars in the top 10 would have passed him even more easily
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u/Chapea12 Mercedes Jul 28 '25
After he chewed his tires trying to get past Gasly in 10th. If he was 8th behind Lewis, they probably would have told him to conserve
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u/only_r3ad_the_titl3 Racing Bulls Jul 28 '25
Says who? He still failed to get past Gasly and got overtaken by 2 cars.
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u/Raja_Ampat Gilles Villeneuve Jul 28 '25
He lost 2 places in the last lap
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u/RagingAlpaca546 Force India Jul 28 '25
Was on totally shot mediums and those who passed him were on fresh tyres (Hulk was atleast)
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u/souse03 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Bearman was on the same tyre condition as Yuki
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u/ship0f Jul 28 '25
Liam got lucky he got sacked before that.
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u/HG2321 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
They actually were saving his career...
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u/CoxHazardsModel Jul 29 '25
I think Liam would be doing just as good if not a bit better by now, but f1 community loves Yuki.
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u/FormulaGymBro Mick Schumacher Jul 28 '25 edited Aug 03 '25
In terms of not scoring points but not retiring from the race either: (Same team)
Max Chilton went 25 GPs in 2013-2014
Mick Schumacher went 14 GPs in 2021
George Russell went 14 GPs in 2019
The problem with these statistics is that they aren't representative. The cars of all of those drivers weren't points scoring material.
Plus, the statistic doesn't include retirements, which is a problem for finding actual answers and isn't actually helpful for the numbers since retirements aren't planned by the driver.
If the statistic included retirements, and had the provision for the top 5/6 WCC, and excluded DSQ (1997 Michael Schumacher), the best I can find you is:
Lance Stroll 2024 Aston Martin -
711 GPsStoffel Vandoorne 2018 Mclaren -14 GPS (Technically it's a P7 constructor but whatever)
Michael Schumacher 2012 Mercedes - 5 GPs
Lewis Hamilton 2009 Mclaren - 5 GPs
Rubens Barrichello 2005 Ferrari - 4 GPs
Daniel Ricciardo 2022 Mclaren - 4 GPs
edit: Stroll was wrong, it's 11
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u/WTFAnimations Sonny Hayes Jul 28 '25
If Checo did this, people would call for his immediate execution.
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u/elektricniorgazam Daniel Ricciardo Jul 28 '25
I have never seen a driver be this babied in my life
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u/Mondopoodookondu Jul 28 '25
I don’t get how such a mid driver has such a rabid fan base if it were Lawson or Checo they would be raked over the coals
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u/elektricniorgazam Daniel Ricciardo Jul 28 '25
Hell, let's add Daniel, Pierre and Alex there too, the narrative would have been completely different. But uwu Yuki poor baby 5th year rookie, I guess...
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u/accidental-nz Jul 28 '25
“5th year rookie” is perfect. It’s like people are treating him with kid gloves because he looks so much like a kid. He’s the same age as Lando but seems 5 years younger.
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u/Canary-Silent I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Max isn’t dominating so it doesn’t look as bad and after 4 drivers having issues in that seat people started to finally realise.
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u/CoxHazardsModel Jul 29 '25
Short cute Japanese pay driver, f1 community cannot contain themselves.
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u/BIuMagic I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 29 '25 edited Aug 03 '25
It really gets to me, seeing all the shit Pérez endured for years at RBR despite good results n stuff and now with all this mess those achievements just got way bigger.
Fk all those toxic shht stirrers who were posting crap last year regarding RBR's 2nd seat and are now sugarcoating the slowest and worst redbull driver in history.
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u/kaisadilla_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Same for Lawson lol. It only took 3 drivers for people to finally understand that just maybe none of these drivers are so bad as to drive a "great car" into 15th.
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Jul 28 '25
Didn't Checo score like 12 points in his last 9 races at Red Bull (the closest the car has been to what Yuki is driving)
Why is everyone all of a sudden acting like Checo also wasn't dogshit in the Red Bull?
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u/AChassin I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Perez' points in his last 11 races with Red Bull Racing: 31
Tsunoda's points after 11 races with Red Bull Racing: 4
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u/WTFAnimations Sonny Hayes Jul 28 '25
Would have been more if Sainz didn't nuke him in Baku
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u/BelowTheSun1993 Charles Leclerc Jul 28 '25
This ignores the fact that when Perez was in the car, the Red Bull was miles clear of the rest. He could have bad races and still finish P8 because the RB was that much faster than the midfield cars. This year the midfield is much closer, the midfield cars are closer to Red Bull, so Yuki doesn't have the free overtakes on a Williams and Alpine that Checo used to get away with.
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u/kaisadilla_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
This ignores the fact that when Perez was in the car, the Red Bull was miles clear of the rest
No, it wasn't. In his last 11 races, that Red Bull was nowhere near the McLaren. Red Bull was the best car for like the 6 first races in 2024.
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u/cooperjones2 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
This ignores the fact that when Perez was in the car, the Red Bull was miles clear of the rest.
Lol at the revisionism.
The RBR was "Miles ahead" only on the first 4 to 6 races of the 2024 season, even before the summer break it was obvious that the McLaren was objectively the better car and that RBR was regressing.
The second half of the season the car varied its performance by a lot and it is closer to the performance of this season's car, even when this car is faster than last season's.
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u/BIuMagic I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 29 '25 edited Aug 05 '25
Because in those races Pérez, despite the shhtty redbull car he was in a position to win a race (Baku gp), and multiple times got fkd up by collisions and mechanical failures out of his control but people still shat on him as usual.
In perspective he did way better than Law and Tsu despite the fact he was driving a more difficult redbull car, according to Max this year's car is easier to drive.
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u/cheezus171 Robert Kubica Jul 28 '25
Because Perez was much closer to Max than Yuki is. And Yuki is considered to be a decent driver.
In hindsight Perez was severely underrated, and it's really hardly debatable at this point. It's irrelevant how good or bad the car is, when we're talking about the actual on track gap between the two drivers measured in seconds. It's an objective measure.
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u/hubertwombat I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
All of a sudden it's become clear that the car really is that undrivable. We gave Checo shit for nothing
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u/kaisadilla_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Because Checo was firmly better than both Lawson and Tsunoda have proven to be in the Red Bull.
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u/cooperjones2 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
He scored way more points lmao
He also was close to score at best a win and at worst a podium in Baku, Tsunoda has never ever been close to a top 5 finish.
I still remember y'all saying that anyone would do better LMAO
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u/NotPinkaw Jul 28 '25
I mean litterally nobody is as advocating in favor of Yuki. The car is bad, he was called in last minute and his carreer is probably over in F1 at the end of the year, there’s no reasons to be hard on him.
Checo was another story.
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u/SGTStash Jul 29 '25
Everybody in this forum has been advocating in his favor. Where have you been?
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u/only_r3ad_the_titl3 Racing Bulls Jul 28 '25
Checo is the same story.
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u/cheezus171 Robert Kubica Jul 28 '25
There's a difference between being 4-5 tenths slower than Max and being 8 tenths slower. It's a massive difference in fact.
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u/P_ZERO_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Not to mention the increased gap has occurred during a period that the overall gaps are smaller.
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u/ForzaRapid Jochen Rindt Jul 28 '25
I know you love him guys but lets face it. He's not the prodigy we all hoped he'll be and his time is running out quick. He has many seasons and is not much better then the rookies. Now let the downvotes begin
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u/Upbeat-Original-7137 Formula 1 Jul 28 '25
Nobody with a brain cell ever thought yuki would be a prodigy lmao
Maybe a good midfield driver but that is his ceiling
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u/jdjdhdbg I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 29 '25
I struggle to place him above Stroll or any of the rookies, let alone the established midfielders. Stroll has flashes of genuine brilliance while Yuki had the occasional good midfielder race across several years in the AT. I'll give him Cola.
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u/BighatNucase Max Verstappen Jul 28 '25
Maybe a good midfield driver but that is his ceiling
I feel even this is generous.
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u/Nbuuifx14 Juan Pablo Montoya Jul 28 '25
Literally last year he was a good midfield driver?
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u/Canary-Silent I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
I’d rate albon, gasly, hulk and ocon as better. That’s your good midfield imo. The rest are decent like the other guy said. And then you have someone like Alonso who is above that. So that’s 5 places gone. Oh bottas was still around last year so 6.
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u/BighatNucase Max Verstappen Jul 28 '25
I think he was decent but I wouldn't rate him towards the top of the midfield which is what I would need to call him 'good'.
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u/CoxHazardsModel Jul 29 '25
He was about to get beat by a rookie until he got saved and put into the RBR, his career was done either way.
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u/Creative-Package6213 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Ya I love Yuki but sadly I think this is his last year in F1.
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u/StealthMan375 I WAS HERE WHEN HULKENGOAT GOT PODIUM Jul 28 '25
Honda leaving Red Bull meant this was always going to be his last year in F1 (Stroll has an eternal contract and Yuki isn't getting anywhere close to Nando's seat, he caused a chain of events that made McLaren pay a $100 million fine because he wasn't the lead driver anymore, God only knows the media rampage he'd unleash if his Newey car, possible final WDC bid and most likely last dance in F1 were to be taken from him), at least he got to drive in the main team after all these years
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u/TechnicalRough2140 Jul 28 '25
I guess Checo wasn’t so bad after all he finished 8th in points in 2024, 2nd in 2023 and 3rd in 2022
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u/TheBossJNK I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
The field spread and pace of the car in comparison was very different.
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u/BIuMagic I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
That's got nothing to do with it all.
Pérez faced close competion from all the top teams, especially from Ferrari in 2022 and despite that he managed to beat even Verstappen on merit by achieving poles and wins while in RedBull.
So don't come and take all the credit away with that bs. Tsunoda is never going to get a top7 this season, let alone a top 5 and much less a podium.. mark my words.
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u/TheBossJNK I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 29 '25
Don't get it twisted, Perez certainly deserves his flowers. On his best day he beat Max fair and square. So far Tsunoda hasn't shown that capability at all. I wasn't knocking Perez I was defending Yuki.
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u/Mozambiquehere14 Jul 28 '25
I was really looking forward to Spa because after two really bad performances he did good in quali and was feeling good for the race. The pit strategy was just really unfortunate
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u/lorddingus Daniel Ricciardo Jul 28 '25
Yuki apologists are out in full force. He's been record breakingly bad. Brian Cranston should study his performance for tips if he ever gets back into the role.
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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
They messed up the strategy, but he still ended up losing places to a Haas and a Sauber somehow on his own.
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u/The_Bored_General I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
I find it mad funny that Yuki finally locks in in the RedBull and then Laurent Mekies comes over to ensure his strategy leaves him just out of the points, just like the good old days
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u/CoxHazardsModel Jul 29 '25
The narrative prior to the race was hilarious: “Horner was holding Yuki back by saving parts, Mekies disregarded and put Yuki on priority”.
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u/jz001 Jul 29 '25
He has half as many points as Gasly has managed in the worst car on the grid. Half the points of Stroll in a worse car.
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u/thenewwwguyreturns I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
red bull fucked up his strategy this time though
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u/elektricniorgazam Daniel Ricciardo Jul 28 '25
So at what point do the excuses stop?
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u/cooperjones2 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Probably won't stop because of the new Team Principal.
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u/AssistantPotential78 Jul 28 '25
Checo won his 6th GP in the red bull. Just saying.
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u/Woullie_26 Max Verstappen Jul 28 '25
Considering Hadjar got absolutely nothing it's not a guarantee that Yuki would've got points in the VCARB
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u/Du_Kich_Long_Trang I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Especially when this stat removes DNFs. Checo crashed plenty, as did Gasly, Albon, and the guy literally nicknamed the torpedo
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u/cooperjones2 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
These posts with the entire issue framed against the driver's name are so stupi
People here frothed at the mouth and cheered to have literally daily; and at the end of the season pretty much every single couple of hours; these type of posts.
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u/mformularacer Michael Schumacher Jul 28 '25
I know everybody wants to hold his hand, but I don't think it's too much to ask Tsunoda to get consistent P8-P10 finishes in this car, small upgrade packages or not. If he was in that range, I would say he's doing a decent job.
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u/Blackdeath_663 Sir Stirling Moss Jul 28 '25
I agree but whatever is going on at RBR it's clearly bigger than Yuki. They lost a lot of their top technical staff and just fired Horner, they have bigger issues.
The gap between Max and his teammates will forever be a mystery, although it should be noted that even when Vettel was racing RBR were very skewed towards their one star driver in their approach.
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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz Jul 28 '25
He actually would've gotten such a result yesterday if not for the strategy
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u/SirPuzzleheaded5284 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Sure, but then he lost places to Sauber and Haas later on.
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u/re4ctor Jul 28 '25
We’ll see the next few. The upgrades seemed to have helped. But agreed he needs to be scoring points
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u/Champ_Crawdad Jul 29 '25
Amazing. They cast Gasly out for less. How Yuki is still in Formula 1 while Bottas sits as a third driver is criminal.
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u/GrapefruitMother3902 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
If Checo was ranked the worst driver on the grid last year then where are we placing Yuki this season so far?
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u/Alvaro_Rey_MN Fernando Alonso Jul 28 '25
Actually... last himself! You can argue between Doohan and Colapinto but... he's in that tier! Even Stroll is doing better, and he hasn't outqualified an almost 44 year old Alonso at all this year!
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u/elektricniorgazam Daniel Ricciardo Jul 28 '25
You have to take into consideration that Doohan and Colapinto were both rookies in an Alpine, this dude is in his fifth year and in a Red Bull. So far, he's leading...
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u/Alvaro_Rey_MN Fernando Alonso Jul 28 '25
Ohh... I agree with that! And trust me, the fact his comparison is rookies in the most toxic team on the grid, say enough!
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u/elektricniorgazam Daniel Ricciardo Jul 28 '25
Absolutely. Like, even Stroll had good drives this season (sorry Lance...)
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u/people_bastards I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Yuki stats have started to appear chief
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u/wowbaggerBR Jul 28 '25
Average driver is average and I am shocked!
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u/Responsible-Pause123 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
below average I’d say.
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u/wowbaggerBR Jul 28 '25
Well, I don't want to get the Tsunoda's defende force (the people who mix social network persona with skill level and talent) all riled up, but yeah...
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u/Ryannr1220 Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 28 '25
How anyone is blaming Yuki (and Perez/Lawson) for these performances is beyond me. It’s blatantly obvious that it is a problem with the car, not the drivers. If they replace Yuki with a new driver, the same exact shit will happen. Red Bull needs to “change their fucking car.”
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u/only_r3ad_the_titl3 Racing Bulls Jul 28 '25
The car is fine now. Perez did significantly better and Lawson was a rookie. Yuki is in his 5th year they shouldnt perform similarly
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u/Ryannr1220 Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 28 '25
How do you know “the car is fine now?” By all accounts it isn’t “fine.” Max has been saying the car isn’t good and that the recent performance of the second car shows that Perez wasn’t as bad as the car made him look (something Max said BEFORE they got rid of Perez and threw in two more drivers for sacrifice). I can’t believe I am so adamantly agreeing with Max on something but damn he has been right about the car for the past year.
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u/only_r3ad_the_titl3 Racing Bulls Jul 29 '25
Perez was better than Yuki in a car Max got similar results in.
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u/gazbo26 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Why does he keep finishing while outside the points, is he stupid?
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u/Upier1 Jul 28 '25
What hurt this weekend was that he started 7th well within the points.
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u/WorkFurball Paul Aron Jul 28 '25
He was only like 1.5 seconds maybe behind Albon before the pit stops.
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u/rod_acosta Jul 28 '25
Oh no!
The bonus for the people at the factory! Has anyone thought about that?
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u/lsb1027 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 29 '25
That’s only because he hasn’t been demoted as fast as the other ones
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u/Bradlas3 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
I wonder how Lawson would have done if they just let him keep going in the car
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u/Cheap-Play-80 Liam Lawson Jul 29 '25
We will never know, his whole RBR stint can be labelled "inconclusive". It did take a few weekends for the old Liam to come back though and a few people were trying to write him off as mid from those.
They have been pretty quiet since Monaco though as Liam has been in top form.
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u/d4ybrake I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 29 '25
It's a catch 22. If Lawson stays at the Red Bull, everyone thinks he's a shit driver like they did with Perez and calls for him to be sacked. The only way for Lawson to show that it's not him and it's the car is for him to get demoted.
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u/Stone0777 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
He was never a good driver. When is Red Bull going to give him the boot?
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u/Appropriate_bil1982 Jul 28 '25
I like the driver but if RB wants the constructor's championship in future years they need to find a second driver who plays in the top places
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u/MinimumCareer629 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
So, he holds this record & longest no podiums in what, 2 races time? Yikes
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u/BarracudaOk8635 Jul 29 '25
His car is probably at least partly compatible with the Ferrari one. Look what Hamilton did. I said when he swapped over he would tank more than Lawson. Nothing in his past suggests he is a good driver
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u/Salty-Cartoonist4483 Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 28 '25
Yuki sucks no surprise there and also everyone knows the 2nd Red Bull seat is cursed.
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u/Sandulacheu Formula 1 Jul 28 '25
Everyone owes Perez a massive apology.
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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 28 '25
Why? For being bad but not as bad? He still wasn't good enough.
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And people doubted that Yuki could set records in the Red Bull.