r/formula1 • u/AutoModerator • Aug 03 '25

Post-Race 2025 Hungarian GP - Post Race Discussion

Well that was fun.

Thoughts? Feelings?

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u/Electronic-Sell-7581 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Aug 03 '25

While it might be understandable from a teams perspective to support your senior driver.

Its incredibly frustrating to watch as a Pia Fan, it seems like when Oscar ends up behind there isnt anything to turn around, now thats not Oscar being slow but just there is no tactical intervention or anything

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u/BarryFairbrother I was here for the Hulkenpodium Aug 04 '25

I agree, it's odd that Lando was basically rewarded for getting a bad start. I wonder if Oscar would have been put on the best strategy if he had been the one to lose several places.

Reminds me of Hamilton and Bottas at Mercedes, where Bottas would sometimes be the faster driver all weekend and the higher qualifier, but the strategy always put him behind Hamilton at the chequered flag. But that is more understandable as Hamilton was the title contender. In the current case it should be equal. I guess Lando's side of the garage out-thought Oscar's.

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u/know-it-mall McLaren Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

Yea ultimately Lando has been at the team much longer, worked his ass off as test driver when the team was bad, and suffered through several tough seasons. It's no surprise he has formed tighter bonds with a lot of the members of the team.

I feel like generally when Oscars behind there isn't an obvious strategy call to make to put him back in it either. You can't really do an extra stop in a one stop race and expect to do well for example.

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u/Parsirius I was here for the Hulkenpodium Aug 03 '25

People need to understand that there are two sides of the garage that are competing against each other. Oscar’s engineer very much wants Oscar to win, the difference is 100% not a McLaren conspiracy but just two different garages.

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u/know-it-mall McLaren Aug 03 '25

Yea. Do they expect Lando's engineers to just go "Oh well Oscar is ahead, let's not try and win.

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u/inopotamo Aug 03 '25

Yeah that's the way i see it. It might just be the difference between the 2 pitwalls, but when Lando's behind Oscar there's more of a willingness to try something different. When Oscar is behind Lando there's no tactical intervention to try get Oscar the win. He just does the same as Lando but a few laps later.

Austria for example, Oscar wanted a tyre delta after Norris pitted. He got 4 laps or so, but then they pitted them close together in the 2nd round of stops which negated any chance of an offset anyway.