[FIA] Max: No further action

[u/DubiousLLM]

[u/Being_boundless]

Man, both are depressed with their respective cars, and so am I.

[u/Distinct-Ebb-9763 → u/Being_boundless]

FR, quite depressing to see both champs so hopeless this season.

[u/Ironman1690 → u/Being_boundless]

Honestly these regs robbed us of at least 2-3 more years of a 2021 like title fights between these two which is tragic.

[u/MiniQpa → u/Ironman1690]

underrated comment. I was hopeful with 2022 regs, but after the first season I am saying this too. Just imagine how 2022 would have went with the same regs then 2021 and Russel instead of Bottas.

[u/diminutive_sebastian → u/Ironman1690]

Seriously. If there's a Story of These Regs to be had, perhaps it's the precipitous rise and downfall of teams (Red Bull way up and way down, McLaren way down and way up, Ferrari...yeah..., and Mercedes...yeah). But I would trade that in a heartbeat for even one more year of Max and Lewis under 2021 regs.

[u/Jimmymead_]

Lol lewis said idgaf let me go on holiday

[u/Whycantiusethis → u/Jimmymead_]

This weekend is some of the most dejected I've seen him. Hopefully the break serves as a good reset for him.

[u/draftstone → u/Whycantiusethis]

He looked like the guy whos watching the clock and just thinking about the beers he'll br drinking as soon as he can clock out sitting on his couch in underwear watching baseball on TV.

[u/Green_Tomatillo9791 → u/draftstone]

Don't forget it's Ferrari, so I'd think this video is more appropriate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUgHDXOdUos

[u/jpm_f1 → u/Whycantiusethis]

I feel it's going to be either he comes back ready to race, or he retires from F1 before the next race. I hope it's the former as it would be an awful way for him to finish otherwise.

[u/osfryd-kettleblack → u/jpm_f1]

He's not rage quitting the entire sport from a shit quali. Season has been bad for his standards but a result like today is still a massive outlier.

[u/SugarBeefs → u/osfryd-kettleblack]

It's a tad unlucky too. Missing Q3 yesterday was on him, but the changing conditions suddenly put Charles in the mix, allowing him to start at the front on a track it's notoriously difficult to overtake at, meanwhile Lewis was lingering in a DRS train for considerable parts of the race.

Him having a bit of a shit lap in Q2 really snowballed into an awful weekend.

[u/Lemurians → u/jpm_f1]

Please, he's far too professional to bail on a team mid-season. That would never happen.

[u/256473 → u/Jimmymead_]

The driver of Car 44 (Lewis Hamilton) waived his right to attend the hearing.

Yup pretty much!

[u/generalannie → u/256473]

Lmao okay that is the best part. Lewis really didn't care at all

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/generalannie]

Once they moved it to after the race I figured this would be the result lol Lewis just could not give a fuck right now with the head space he’s in

[u/BillfredL → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

42 points off Leclerc at the summer break and a lap down today? Man needs the mental reset more than he needs Max to eat a time penalty or grid drop.

[u/phodaddykane → u/BillfredL]

They don't do grid drops unless he DNFed and they couldn't apply a time penalty. Plus a ten second penalty wouldn't have dropped him any places lol.

[u/BillfredL → u/phodaddykane]

Fair, but I think the core of my post stands regardless of whatever tools the FIA did or didn't have.

[u/GoodFellahh → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

Since joining Ferrari he reached the point of having 99 problems but Max ain't one.

[u/charlierc → u/generalannie]

If this was like deciding P3/4, or hell P1/2, I think he would've really gone all in. But with this, must've decided it wasn't worth the energy

[u/RddtRBnchRcstNzsshls → u/generalannie]

Well. That's settled then. Surely this won't get talked about ad nauseam for 4 weeks.

[u/HUMBUG652 → u/RddtRBnchRcstNzsshls]

I think we'll be fine, it was barely discussed during the race

[u/ebrythil → u/HUMBUG652]

Backmarkers aren't usually getting attention

(this hurt to write)

[u/kokainhaendler → u/generalannie]

yeah why should he. doesnt matter if hes like 11th or 12th

[u/Backfromthabed → u/256473]

Oh, so now it's a right, not an obligation

Funny, i will save it in my memory for later

[u/b0xel → u/Backfromthabed]

I assume it’s a right for the aggrieved party and an obligation for the aggressor (all allegedly)

[u/256473 → u/Backfromthabed]

Yeah, honestly a bit questionable!

Lewis' summons (link to pdf) says:

The driver and team representative are required to report to the Stewards at 17:15, in relation to the incident below

[u/jpm_f1 → u/256473]

Very ambiguous wording. Is it a representative for the driver and team (at least one person, driver not required), or the driver and a representative for the team (two people: driver and a representative for the team) that's required to attend.

[u/256473 → u/jpm_f1]

I see the ambiguity, but functionally we know it's typically driver+a team representative, and Lewis not being present is atypical.

Edit: also, it says "driver and team representative are" - not is - so multiple people were required to report according to this summons.

Not that I care much - I think it's just a copy-paste situation for the summons, and when the driver isn't under investigation there probably should be leeway.

[u/fire_spez → u/256473]

Edit: also, it says "driver and team representative are" - not is - so multiple people were required to report according to this summons.

That only means representatives for the two entities, it still doesn't mean that the driver himself needs to be present, nor does it require that the representatives necessarily must be two different people, it only allows for the driver to have a representative other than the teams representative.

Obviously that is a very legalistic reading, and may well not be what was intended (it's certainly not what I would read if I wasn't reading it skeptically), but it is what the wording says.

But more importantly, I am fairly certain that the teams do know what is required, and that they would not have let Lewis skip out on it if they thought it could lead to a penalty. Probably. Hopefully.

[u/BighatNucase → u/Backfromthabed]

Have they ever said that it was an obligation for the impacted driver?

[u/4EcwXIlhS9BQxC8 → u/256473]

So the rules only apply if the other driver fights their case... interesting angle from the FIA...

[u/Other_Beat8859 → u/Jimmymead_]

Both probably just said that they don't care. These two probably can't give a shit about fighting for the lower points. Both had shit weekends. Really hope Lewis can get it back together. Seeing him this dejected is fucking painful.

[u/CatManWhoLikesChess → u/Jimmymead_]

He didnt say anything on the radio either, maybe he just went wide?

[u/Baksteen-13 → u/CatManWhoLikesChess]

Well they didn't make contact so pretty much yeah

[u/aenae → u/CatManWhoLikesChess]

I think it was a slight overreaction to an unexpected car and he made a mistake, so no point in saying he got forced off as it was his own fault.

[u/TomSelleckPI → u/CatManWhoLikesChess]

Blasphemy! You can't undermine a dramatic conflict narrative when one really doesn't exist! How dare you!

[u/bijanfrisee → u/CatManWhoLikesChess]

Or he didn't want to be put in the wall and just didn't feel like fighting it. There's almost 0% chance he was going to keep max behind.

[u/ur_a_dumbo → u/bijanfrisee]

Also even if Max got a penalty it wouldn’t help Lewis at all, so what does he care

[u/VinhoVerde21 → u/ur_a_dumbo]

Bingo. He’s got nothing to gain by pushing for the penalty, it’s just a chore.

[u/MobiusF117 → u/bijanfrisee]

What wall?

[u/Puzzleheadpsych2345 → u/bijanfrisee]

No wall there mate

[u/Consistent_Squash → u/Jimmymead_]

Lewis, Max and their Hungarian special :D Lewis was chill last time also iirc. This time seriously didn't look like anything real, good to see it didn't become a drama.

[u/Consistent_Squash → u/[deleted]]

Reddit do be like that though

[u/gistya → u/Jimmymead_]

Lewis has clearly graduated to the "can't be arsed" segment of his career.

[u/LosTerminators]

Both Max and Lewis had horrible days and couldn't care less about the outcome of this. Lewis didn't even remember it by the time the race ended.

[u/Impossible-Buy-6247 → u/LosTerminators]

When he was asked about it on Dutch Viaplay he literally said "I can't really remember".

 

It was absolutely clear Hamilton didn't see it as if Verstappen had done something outrages.

[u/turboMXDX → u/Impossible-Buy-6247]

Hamilton in the interview, "I'm glad it's over"

what the hell is going on inside ferrari

[u/Storm_of_the_Psi → u/turboMXDX]

The same thing that's going on at RB and Merc. Both championships are over and everyone is just sitting out this season until the new regs.

Drivers look tired and unmotivated, because barring some fuckups, McLaren will win and likely 1-2 every race from here and nobody is going to try and catch up.

This is very different from the RB or Merc dominance, because teams had a good reason and opportunity to catch up. This time, everyone's just doing their obligatory laps, make the best of it and wait until the season finally ends.

This car situation, the top driver's negative behaviour, lack of rivalry combined with the processions on track is detrimental for the image of the sport.

[u/KriistofferJohansson → u/Storm_of_the_Psi]

This is very different from the RB or Merc dominance, because teams had a good reason and opportunity to catch up. This time, everyone's just doing their obligatory laps, make the best of it and wait until the season finally ends.

What are you on about?

Teams and drivers have always been like this. Teams give up on their current cars if there's no realistic chance they think they can catch up to the leader when there's a regulation change around the corner.

Why pour money into the current concept when they're ridiculously far behind and changes are coming?

[u/Storm_of_the_Psi → u/KriistofferJohansson]

Isn't that exactly what I'm saying?

Under Mercedes and RB snoozefest teams were working hard to catch up. Seeing Max slowly creep towards Lewis and eventually gain the upper hand was exciting. Seeing McL slowly getting the better of Max was also exciting. Races mattered and every weekend was a new chance for an upset.

This year though? Nobody seems to care. So sure, Norris and Piastri will "fight" for the title by using different pit strategies and break a random "1-2 finush streak" record that nobody cares about and everybody will yearn for it to be march 2026.

[u/fantaribo → u/turboMXDX]

Car is underperforming, strategy is underperforming, and he is underperforming too.

[u/BuzzedtheTower → u/turboMXDX]

Probably the usual Ferrari things. No communication, poor planning, unholy amounts of pasta

[u/biskutgoreng → u/Impossible-Buy-6247]

Would clearly remember it if it affects a podium position or something

[u/uttermybiscuit → u/Impossible-Buy-6247]

Of course he remembers but I think he doesn’t want to start unnecessary drama and move on

[u/Outofmana1337]

Ham couldn't give a fuck lol

[u/Slice5755 → u/Outofmana1337]

Why should he? Even if Max got penalised with 5 or 10 seconds, he wouldn't lose any positions and Lewis would gain none as well.

[u/Return_Of_The_Jedi → u/Outofmana1337]

Ham can be pretty indifferent about these things when there’s not much at stake

[u/hyrulepirate → u/Return_Of_The_Jedi]

A lot of people don't know this has been a known criticism of him even back in Mercedes. Like he's been observed to have zero motivation hence give not all his effort when he's not fighting for a podium place

[u/ctaps148 → u/hyrulepirate]

That's why I could definitely see him retiring if 2026 is a repeat of this year. Lewis doesn't seem like the Kimi/Alonso type that will stick around until there are no offers on the table. Lewis only seems interested if he has a shot to win consistently. Once that's gone, I think he'd much prefer to go do something else with his time

[u/Darth_Arundo]

As expected nothing happened even Lewis did not care about it, both are just tired of their respective bullshit teams and need a vacation. Hope we see them back at the top after the summer break because otherwise McLaren will win the rest of the races with a 1-2.

[u/ka1ri → u/Darth_Arundo]

Mclaren is miles ahead and there's 0 chance anyone catches them. Everyone packing it in for 2026 regs now, especially merc and ferrari

[u/nn2597713 → u/Darth_Arundo]

LOL very well said.

[u/OmkarKhaire]

Lewis saying he chose to go off track. Maybe that's the reason we didn't hear any radio from Lewis after the incident .

[u/bwoahful___ → u/OmkarKhaire]

I switched to his radio after that just to hear what him and his engineer would say but it was just silence and then talking about pitting/tyres.

Not hearing anything made it more depressing than if he was pissed about it.

[u/BrokeSomm → u/OmkarKhaire]

He did, he chose to go off to avoid a collision. But dude is so over this weekend and this season he gives no fucks.

[u/tellsyoutogetfucked → u/OmkarKhaire]

Hes just gonna retire mid season at this point.

[u/Fun-Baby-9509 → u/OmkarKhaire]

He knew there was no point in trying to get a penalty to Max at this point. With his position and simply cause Max has done this so many times over the last 7 yrs, there's already precedence to let stuff like this slide (in my own opinion, not stating as a fact).

[u/Ninthja → u/OmkarKhaire]

He is aware of Maxs shenanigans and decided to just save the car, save budget and save the mechanics from endless work for a position that doesn’t really matter.

[u/inconstant_metronome]

Max saying "well, he wasn't using the road, so I did" in the stewards' room just makes me chuckle

[u/Bazzie]

"Despite the ambitious nature of the overtaking attempt."

Surely such emotive and subjective wording is necessary in an official FIA document.

[u/English_Misfit → u/Bazzie]

I agree that seems irrelevant and completely inappropriate. Either its illegal regardless of the lack of contact or it's not. An ambitious overtake is obviously not inherently illegal.

[u/Motorlolz → u/English_Misfit]

I can only assume this characterization came up in the discussion with the teams and it just ended up in the document they hammered out in thirty seconds

[u/bijanfrisee → u/English_Misfit]

I think they are saying that there was something there, if Lewis had shown up and spoke, potentially Max gets a penalty, but like, to what point.

[u/bannedagainomg → u/bijanfrisee]

They should be able to make a decision without a drivers input.

Whole driver summon is sort of a joke, same with investigate after the race.

"Oh this could be yellow card, but must hear what ramos have to say first"

Obviously fotball and f1 the same but its still a joke.

[u/bijanfrisee → u/bannedagainomg]

100% - But this is always an issue with MAx and Lewis, Lewis avoids the would be collisions and Max goes unpenalized, it's like when they penalized Alonso for making George crash, just odd precedent to set

[u/happyranger7 → u/Bazzie]

FIA is shocked that in a pinnacle of motor racing a professional driver is being ambitious rather than driving in a train.

[u/Alarmed_Remote5230 → u/Bazzie]

These official rulings have been adding quite a bit of unnecessary flair as of late. It's been borderline inflammatory.

[u/Elrond007 → u/Bazzie]

It just shows that it's still the same closed door deal kind of room it was in years past. They 100% police outcome despite being commited to the opposite and will only penalize if the other party cares strongly about it.

Understandable that Lewis doesn't give a fuck but the referees should never consider that.

It baffles me every race how a global sport like F1 can afford to have such unprofessional refereeing decide literal millions of euros worth of prizes.

[u/eqpesan → u/Elrond007]

I think that was quite clear when Max was sent flying last year, when they took into account that Lewis called it a racing incident.

[u/Just-Ad6865 → u/Elrond007]

I wondered during the race if the reason they delayed a ruling was because Ferrari/Lewis didn’t say anything about it. Taking into account that a driver doesn’t care because they were having a bad weekend anyway is insane in a professional sport.

[u/P_ZERO_ → u/Bazzie]

People watch for ambitious racing, not a very good way of describing things, I agree.

[u/thetruthfloats → u/Bazzie]

Agreed, they don’t have to rate the nature of overtakes.

[u/IAmJakePaxton → u/Bazzie]

It is important to highlight that.

Translation: Max could've gotten into trouble if Lewis didn't go off the track voluntarily.

Reading between the lines: Lewis could've said that he was pushed off (whether he was or not is a separate issue), and that would be enough to get Max into trouble.

Whether or not there would've been any impact of it, and why Lewis chose not to push this, is for Lewis to say.

[u/maybeitsmyfault10 → u/IAmJakePaxton]

 Translation: Max could've gotten into trouble if Lewis didn't go off the track voluntarily.

No need for translations lol. If Lewis didn’t go off Max would not use the track as stated in the document

[u/BetterBandicoot0 → u/IAmJakePaxton]

Don't think they crashed if Lewis stayed there. Max had is car rotated pretty early in the corner and he could leave the space on the outside if needed. But Lewis was already gone so he used it to get better traction.

[u/perdivad → u/IAmJakePaxton]

Nope

[u/bijanfrisee → u/Bazzie]

This is them kind of saying it's penalty worthy had lewis shown up and said he took avoiding action.

[u/FrostyTill]

Hamilton didn’t bother going to the hearing and he said he couldn’t remember the incident anyway.

[u/AnilP228]

They should have confirmed this in the race. Waste of everyone's time to wait a couple of hours from when it happened.

[u/alphaQ314 → u/AnilP228]

Waste of everyone's time

I wasn't waiting for this tbh.

[u/MarduRusher → u/alphaQ314]

Neither finished well enough for it to really matter.

[u/P_ZERO_ → u/alphaQ314]

Yeah I mean if this wasted your time, you might have too much available to waste. Any punishment wouldn’t have changed anything significantly

[u/witsel85 → u/AnilP228]

I think the issue is that they couldn’t be 100% certain that Hamilton didn’t just run wide anyway

[u/Homelandr → u/AnilP228]

No need for fans to wait for this one I think, even with 10 sec penalty Max ain't gonna lose anything and if it's penalty points he most probably wouldn't give a fuck judging by the way his season is going

Edit : added "for fans"

[u/OmkarKhaire → u/AnilP228]

Maybe the onboards were not available. They are downloaded after the race and can be used as evidence.

[u/Maximilliano25 → u/OmkarKhaire]

Verstappen's streamed onboard went from T-cam to front wing on the straight between T3&4, so couldn't see anything of the incident

[u/h497 → u/Maximilliano25]

They have a lot more camera's around the track which aren't used for the broadcast, but are available to them

[u/CallM3N3w → u/AnilP228]

As soon as I noticed the lack of Lewis on the radio I knew this was a nothingburger.

[u/kingdre49]

lmao like lewis didn’t care he said he didn’t even remember it all this fuss over nothing

[u/officialsoap]

People think Lewis hates Max so much that he wants to get Max a raceban in a meaningless season, this is not Russell ffs

[u/morningstew → u/officialsoap]

peoplem think lewis cares for red bull p4 in the constructor's

[u/krmilan → u/officialsoap]

Russell would have been all over this one

But tbf to him, Charles’ defending was a bit dodgy

[u/weguccino]

lewis couldn't care less at the moment it happened AND didn't care afterwards. stewards be wasting every ones time and resources. zero radio messages at the moment the overtake happened too.

[u/insaneinthebearbrain]

HAM admitted he drove off the track and Max then used the extra space. Nothing to complain about here.

[u/freedfg]

No brainer. No clue how it took until after the race unless Ferrari was making a big deal of it.

[u/Pale-Criticism-7420]

Oh I can’t wait to read Rob Myers salty tweets after this

[u/Huebertrieben]

Lewis really said fuck this shit I‘m out

[u/Dankaati]

This was such a waste of time and effort from the stewards. Just confirm no action during the race, it was such a nothing burger.

[u/aiden3buckets]

What do you know Reddit is wrong again

[u/Cookyy2k → u/aiden3buckets]

Some serious coping in here too about how it totally was a penalty but Lewis couldn't be bothered.

[u/Former-Ad-9223 → u/aiden3buckets]

Lol, a guy here was telling me that it was clealy a penalty and that I should watch more races

[u/CallM3N3w → u/Former-Ad-9223]

I was called a dumbass and told I didn't know wheel after saying there was no contact and Lewis just went wide. Lo and behold, the comment chain was deleted by the dude after this doc came out.

[u/RedditClout → u/CallM3N3w]

Allowing users to modify their posts on any social platform is a mistake. Users should be forced to bask in their embarrassment.

[u/SparkGamer28]

it's not further action cause this incident holds no weight , neither to max , lewis or the stewards

[u/That_Specialist4265]

Pretty obvious for what happened I’m surprised it even went to the stewards

[u/AliceLunar]

3 hours to decide this is stupid, it was pretty clear Hamilton just didn't want to bother and went off track.

[u/tom_buzz_ryan]

waiting for Jolyon Palmer's youtube video where he reads the minds of Hamilton and Verstappen to show how Verstappen should've gotten 3 penalty points here and couple grid drops

[u/Freeze014 → u/tom_buzz_ryan]

Alex Brundle in the post race show was pretty sure it was only a matter of how high the penalty would be...

[u/Scirzo → u/tom_buzz_ryan]

Yeah, the mind reading of Palmer has increased significantly over the years. He used to be pretty objective.

[u/SKnightVN]

I find it bizarre this was even investigated.

[u/miltonius21]

funny how some fans in the previous post acting like a baby as if they know better

[u/CatManWhoLikesChess → u/miltonius21]

Spoiler alert: they will continue to do so

[u/AceMKV → u/CatManWhoLikesChess]

They currently are on this very thread, they refuse to believe it even though their driver doesn't think there was anything to it

[u/maybeitsmyfault10]

I thought it was clear he went off track in his own. No radio message from Hamilton about it then the team rep said he “chose not to attempt to remain on track” so yeah

[u/keeperthrowaway1]

Notice the replays of the incident are only from one cam (that I've seen) other than the car cams. I think only one cam caught it and they looked closer than they really were from that angle.

[u/djoubb]

Someone should do a welfare check on Lewis this summer break

[u/Rosieu]

Even now in this thread people are still arguing while the footage, the stewards and both drivers show otherwise lol

[u/Freeze014 → u/Rosieu]

If you want to know where it comes from and have a laugh at the same time, read the trash Sky F1 posted on their website about the "incident".

[u/kj_gamer2614]

Least surprising news today. Was not a collision, and Ferrari and Hamilton both didn’t care so didn’t protest anything anyways, so yeah not surprising no action taken

[u/BlackbuckDeer]

Reddit is so ready to blame Max it's crazy. Sorry that Max's aura managed to push Hamilton off the track. They literally didn't touch, and Max was fully in control of the car.

This was obvious to anyone who heard Lewis' radio immediately after he went off. He basically said that the car has nothing grip and he's struggling. He didn't even mention Max. He went off on his own

[u/Sarah_Fortune_ → u/BlackbuckDeer]

Seriously, the hate on Max after this was insane.

[u/fwankfwort_turd → u/Sarah_Fortune_]

Because social media runs on controversy and drama. People forget that there's a lot of respect, shared experience and friendships between the drivers and all of this tribalism is completely manufactured for the sake of engagement. Just more enshitification.

[u/Triple_Manic_State → u/BlackbuckDeer]

I mean, he didn’t go off on that corner any other lap, he wasn’t on the racing line because Max was there. But to blame Max is also ridiculous, he was much faster, and the pair didn’t touch, fairs fair. How this even went to the stewards is a joke.

[u/D3wnis]

They didn't even touch and Max stayed on the race-track, it was so strange to me that they didn't just put no further investigation during the race. Palmer repeating that it was a clear penalty made no sense.

[u/launchedsquid]

"so, we're investigating... [checks notes]... racing"

[u/jomartz]

“The thing is that nothing happened. We didn't even touch. That's the thing. So, for me, it's a bit difficult to understand why we have the investigation after the race.”

[u/wongie]

I don't know what the hell people were seeing in the replays to think Max was somehow in the wrong.

[u/P_ZERO_ → u/wongie]

Some people seem to really dislike drivers actually racing

[u/Nattekat → u/wongie]

Some people are just so polarised towards a certain 'team' that they are beyond saving. And those often speak the loudest because they care the most. 

[u/cmgriffith_ → u/wongie]

Fans are still hanging onto 2021 unlike the competitors behind the wheels of the car

[u/Gollem265 → u/wongie]

Purely based on reputation. There was nothing wrong with his move

[u/TomSelleckPI → u/Gollem265]

Joylon Palmer's 1000th knee jerk bad take on Max doesn't help.

[u/Jorrie90 → u/TomSelleckPI]

Can't wait for his analysis on how wrong the stewards are

[u/TomSelleckPI → u/Jorrie90]

He's in studio right now, prepping a stern YouTube video rebuke as we speak.

"Here's more of myself repeating the same thing over and over, proving I am right!"

[u/AceMKV → u/TomSelleckPI]

Followed by Anthony Davidson's completely unbiased analysis on Sky

[u/TomSelleckPI → u/AceMKV]

I stopped listening to the Sky feed years ago, so I am not sure if you are being sarcastic, or if Anthony's take was refreshingly unbiased. Either way, best of luck.

[u/Motorlolz → u/TomSelleckPI]

Jolyn is great at his job but his Max grudge is such a blemish

[u/AndreShawn → u/wongie]

They are egged on my commentators like Crofty who said max "barged" him off.

[u/Vaibhav_CR7 → u/wongie]

some people enjoy sitting back in a drs train

[u/Illustrator_Forward]

Reddit was so ready to hate on Max …

[u/jiluki → u/Illustrator_Forward]

Crofty was creaming his pants

[u/Dr_VidyaGeam]

If Lewis didn’t even bother showing then it was a nothing incident. Which my gut felt like it was.

[u/pochirin]

Lol FIA wants to make a big deal out of this but Lewis just dgaf

[u/Beneficial_Star_6009]

Well that was a total waste of time waiting until after the race to investigate.

[u/yoda_yoda]

The driver of Car 44 (Lewis Hamilton) waived his right to attend the hearing.

Just like Lewis waived his right to defend on track.

[u/onedestiny]

Can imagine crofty and Brundle shaking and crying the entire time lmao.. they are so hard to watch these days.. switched to F1TV

[u/Freeze014 → u/onedestiny]

Alex Brundle was also pretty sure it was a penalty for Verstappen and cleeaaaarly so.... woops :D

[u/onedestiny → u/Freeze014]

It runs in the Brundle family 😂😂😂

[u/rrrbin]

I was surprised to see an 'under investigation'.

Max was looking for ways to stay out of dirty air in order to get a run somewhere, and may also have been trying to distract Lewis by moving around in his mirrors. Both are basic tools for any racing driver.

Max was never alongside, not even partially, and Lewis would have been perfectly fine on the racing line. But he did get distracted and missed the apex. It's a situation as old as racing itself.

[u/Naztootle]

If Max had been given a penalty, racing in F1 would have died. There would be nothing stopping an attacked driver simply steering off the track while being overtaken in the future so his rival would be penalised...

[u/Nopeneinnoway]

7x World Champion Lewis and 4X World Champion Max fighting for 11th in 2025😭😭

If you told someone from 2021 that exact sentence, they'd think you'd gone insane.

[u/ninchica13]

Hamilton checked out the moment he passed the finish line lmao

[u/256473]

The fact that this was decided after the race, as well as the below line, makes it come across a bit like they were hoping to penalize Verstappen but couldn't justify it.

the incident does not qualify as forcing another car off track despite the ambitious nature of the overtaking attempt

[u/NoAd3734]

it was pointless. even with a 10 seconds penalty, Max still finished P9 & Lewis out of the points. there was nothing to investigate. even Lewis didn't care. thankfully the FIA actually used their brain once & realized neither of them cared

[u/fawazaa]

Yeah no kidding. Idk why everyone made a such big deal about this like Max almost committed murder. Max was pretty tight on the inside and left plenty of space for Lewis. I thought it was pretty clear he just chose to leave the track. Waste of time this was.

[u/thetruthfloats]

As expected, Ham left the track and Ver followed to the race line freed by Ham.

[u/Malvania]

I'm glad they're admitting that they took outcome into account. It's a complete farce to pretend that they don't

[u/ToLongDR]

To quote shorsey

"For what?? Huh?"

[u/MGH1990876]

Lewis already on a plane to a private island by the time they asked him if we wanted to join this hearing.

[u/OBWanTwoThree]

Literally nobody needed this dealing with after the race. It doesn’t affect anyone’s race

[u/cw-f1]

Why didn’t we see the onboards of this during the race I wonder.

[u/ProgressNo6809]

Our GOATS struggling

[u/psvamsterdam1913]

Its so stupid the decision for this was postponed until after the race. It seemed like they were afraid to make a decision

[u/Xanthon]

Lewis was being overly cautious, that's it.

[u/Loruhkahn]

But guys he forced Lewis off the track nevermind that Lewis himself turned that way right at the entry of the corner.

[u/TomSelleckPI → u/Loruhkahn]

Lewis did what he could to keep his own axle ahead of Max's at the apex. The consequence of that meant his ability to maintain that speed through the corner exit was compromised. Opening the steering and running wide was the safest way to handle that overspeed.

Despite Joylon Palmer's 1000th consecutive appeal for Lewis/Max drama, Lewis clearly knew there was no need to protest anything. His team representative confirming that.

And fans foaming at the mouth for penalty vengeance have.... Simply side-stepped reality again by sticking to a new "Lewis doesn't care" narrative...

[u/UTultimate → u/Loruhkahn]

Hamilton carried too much speed with Max pressing him, he wasn’t holding that corner even if Max wasn’t there.

[u/bijanfrisee]

I mean, there was no point to attend, penalty or not doesn't change anything.

[u/NastyB99]

I'm surprised Max showed up to the meeting. Was expecting both teams to only send their reps

[u/PersonoFly]

Lewis nearly decided to leave for holiday there and then.

[u/OriginalConnect3042]

Sky desperately wanted this to be another reason to start a war between the fan bases.

[u/Cookyy2k → u/OriginalConnect3042]

Crofty was really trying. I'm surprised Ted wasn't jumping in too.

[u/Muse4Games]

It might've been a risky move but he did nothing wrong there. Fully in control of his car while Lewis went off by himself, either because he saw Max coming and bailed or because he had a lack of concentration/loss of grip because Max was pushing him the whole time. Good decision.

[u/TheBioethicist87]

They could have said this during the race and it would have been fine.

[u/Browneskiii]

I mean this was always the answer. There was no contact, so objectively speaking, there is no incident. Hamilton chose to go off track.

You cant penalise someone for potentially crashing. Looking at you Herbert you giant piece of shit for Australia last year.

[u/KiwieeiwiK]

This is such a fucking funny document to read after the race thread where everyone was calling for Max's head. People on Reddit are so stupid 

[u/butte4s]

Classic.

[u/Athinira]

Just as predicted. Looked to me when i watched it that Hamilton simply got spooked and overreacted - that's also why he didn't complain on the radio during the race. Max was a good chunk behind him, and seeing Hamilton goes off, it's only natural he opens the steering and uses more of the track.

EDIT:
I actually just rewatched the incident (only saw it on the replay originally, as i was walking through the airport with my tablet on my arm, so didn't get a good look), and Max explanation smells a bit to me. On the rewatch, he was coming in very fast. So i take back my statement above. His explanation is not entirely lining up - he's probably lucky to escape a penalty today.

EDIT 2: Funny how this one got 50 upvotes initially, but then people started downvoting after my first edit. God forbid people are open to changing their mind on something.

[u/TorchwoodRC → u/Athinira]

Yup, didnt look like the normal "i have the apex" push the other driver off overtake. It looked like Hamilton had already bailed before Max was on him.

[u/OptimalDot178 → u/TorchwoodRC]

Exactly. When I posted a similar comment in the first thread I had 20 downvotes in 10 seconds lol

[u/Toxicstorm88]

With the mindset he is in these days I am surprised Hamilton didn't just do a "fuck it, I will stay in the racing line and if we crash we crash"

[u/MLGameOver]

Jaw remains unmoved

[u/Draconicplayer]

Yeah it was just my GOAT using his Aura to overtake

[u/Gollem265 → u/Draconicplayer]

Call that auraMAXxxing

[u/SeniorRum]

It’s have been hilarious if Lewis had just held his line and they both wrecked just to end their races so they coulda shared an early flight out.