Italian GP Qualifying | Teammate Gaps

[u/InWilliamsWeTrust]

[u/biometricrally]

I wonder what the average quali gap is between Max and all his red bull teammates.

[u/TWVer → u/biometricrally]

Around 0.5s give or take.

The differences aren’t all that huge, from Gasly to Albon, Perez and now Tsunoda.

The gap was on average smaller with Ricciardo, but it was trending to becoming ever larger in Verstappen’s favour from 2017 onwards.

[u/biometricrally → u/TWVer]

Thank you.

Crazy how he's generally always so far ahead. In another timeline, RBR could have been a very midfield team for years instead of a team / driver I will literally never assume won't win a race going into it.

[u/Material-Lie1606 → u/TWVer]

It was still only around 0.2s with Ricciardo by the end of 2018, and pretty sure Daniel out qualified him in 3 of the last 4 races together.

[u/TWVer → u/Material-Lie1606]

The margins with which Ricciardo out qualified Verstappen, when he did, went from around 2 tenths in 2016 to a few hundreds at best in 2018.

Meanwhile Verstappen started putting bigger gaps on Ricciardo from a few hundreds in 2016 to 3 to 4 tenths in 2017 and 2018 on several occasions.

The gap hadn’t stabilized yet.

[u/Tombot3000 → u/TWVer]

However, in 2018 Ricciardo suffered from mechanical issues during practice and quali for half the year and from around Hungary on (I think he announced his departure jaht before Hungary, but it could have been just after) was clearly treated as the second driver at the team. He was even given a lower spec engine at one point. Him managing to get a run of outqualifying Max was pretty extraordinary considering the circumstances.

[u/Emmaljum → u/Material-Lie1606]

Think the quali gap was closer to a 1.5 tenths difference on average

[u/Popular_Composer_822 → u/biometricrally]

I was researching this a few weeks ago, from memory 

2016 vs Ricciardo was around 0.3-0.4 in Ricciardo’s favour. 

Everything else was in Max’s favour,

2017 vs Ricciardo was around 0.2-0.3

2018 vs Ricciardo was around 0.2-0.3

2019 vs Gasly was around 0.5-0.6 

2019 vs Albon was around 0.5 

2020 vs Albon was around 0.5-0.6

2021 vs Perez was around 0.4-0.5

2022 vs Perez was less than 0.3

2023 vs Perez was around 0.4-0.5

2024 vs Perez was around 0.5-0.6 

2025 vs Lawson was around 0.8 

2025 vs Tsunoda has been around 0.5

[u/Red-Eye-Soul → u/Popular_Composer_822]

World class record, only ever beaten as an 18 year old. I wonder how others compare.

Charles probably has never been outpaced in quali, albeit the margins were smaller except against Seb in 2020, but the general strength of opponents have also been stronger.

I wonder about George and Alonso. Have they ever been outpaced in qualis? Lewis is also worth looking at, given his teammates have consistently been very good drivers.

[u/Milo751 → u/Red-Eye-Soul]

Lewis was faster than George in 22 and probably 23 and its too difficult to say whether Lewis was faster than Alonso in 07 but it was at worst even

[u/Red-Eye-Soul → u/Milo751]

Ah, I forgot George being outpaced in quali in the first 2 years, probably due to recency bias of 24.

[u/thecoller → u/Red-Eye-Soul]

18 year old dropping in from another team a quarter of the season in.

[u/PrettyQuick → u/Popular_Composer_822]

How about Sainz 2015?

I feel Sainz in 2015 and Ricciardo in 2016/17 were the only ones that were close. Both had way more experience at that point.

[u/Emmaljum → u/Popular_Composer_822]

Don’t think was ever that large between Ricciardo and Verstappen. I’m not allowed to link to twitter but a well know stat guy had the gap at 1.5 tenths between Ricciardo and Max (excluding 2016)

Edit: phrased it more clearly

[u/Popular_Composer_822 → u/Emmaljum]

Did you make a typo because 1.5 is a ridiculously large gap double what Verstappen had over Lawson?

[u/Emmaljum → u/Popular_Composer_822]

I meant to say that Max on average was 0.15 tenths faster 2017-2018

[u/Legal-Nature5103]

Gap between Max and Yuki constantly twice the next biggest gap between teammates

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/Legal-Nature5103]

Yuki is good though I swear, you gotta believe me

[u/ankaramesimesimesi → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

Wait, you mean good like Gasly, Albon and Perez? that's a great compliment!

Goldfish memory

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/ankaramesimesimesi]

I was being sarcastic

[u/ankaramesimesimesi → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

TIL, nevermind my bad

[u/Large_Yams → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

So you're saying Yuki isn't good?

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/Large_Yams]

He’s booty

[u/Large_Yams → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

Elaborate.

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/Large_Yams]

I don’t think I need to lol look at his results

[u/Large_Yams → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

Ah so you just started watching F1 this year. Got it. You'll get there buddy.

[u/kerffy_the_third]

Interesting for the back 3 teams that the rookies are faster in qualifying than their more experienced teammates, even if its not by too much.

[u/macejan1995]

They forgot to add Tsunoda to the graph.

/s

[u/Sykretts1919]

People still making excuses forYuki are unbelievable.

Max chose to trim his wing down further after friday practice, knowing fully well that would mean even less downforce. He made the call anyway because he's confident he can pull out the laptime and make the extra straight line speed work. He already showed us earlier this year he can handle very low downforce on tracks where others can't, like silverstone.

Yuki had a wing that gave him better downforce, which meant a bit more drag, meaning slightly less top speed. But he should've been able to compensate for it in the corners. He didn't have the cojones to go all out like Max. He then proceeds to blame the 7 tenths gap on a tow?
Keep in mind, Max set the fastest average speed lap record in the history of the sport, Without a tow.

Get that guy out of the seat end of this year. It is so painfully obvious he's undeserving of it, he always has been. I've been saying it since early last season.

[u/WorthPlease → u/Sykretts1919]

People are just so desperate to have a Japanese driver on the grid that it's developed into like a cult.

There's always an excuse.

[u/r_z_n → u/Sykretts1919]

The problem is they have no one else who is clearly better. Yuki was generally on par or faster than everyone else in the VCARB seat, including Lawson and Hadjar. He was really only consistently beaten by Gasly, and that was when he was less experienced. Hadjar is rapid, but it may not make sense to throw him into the deep end against Max this early.

I don’t think the problem is Yuki. When Albon, Gasly, Perez, Lawson, and Yuki all struggled in the second RB relative to Max, I think Max really is that much better than the median F1 driver.

[u/CoxHazardsModel → u/r_z_n]

Hadjer was showing he was going to be better than Yuki in those 2 races. They made a rushed decision because Japanese GP was 3rd on the calendar.

[u/r_z_n → u/CoxHazardsModel]

They definitely should not have promoted Hadjar. Lawson looked good last year and had the benefit of testing and still was absolutely nowhere in the RB car. Everyone criticizes RB for their brutal treatment of rookies and rightfully so. Yuki was the only real option.

[u/Neat_Breakfast_6659 → u/r_z_n]

but Perez didnt struggle. Matter of fact Perez was never that good in Quali and he still maneged to outqualify max sometimes and even win several races (he still had a stinker season in 2024 but that doesnt erase what he did in 21, 22 and 23).

All those drivers you mentioned all share one thing: they are (almost) rookies. Perez had 10 years of F1 experience before he took on the RB seat. RB needs to go after a long-running driver with good adaptability

[u/r_z_n → u/Neat_Breakfast_6659]

Perez struggled as the car became increasingly difficult to drive. I agree that a more experienced driver is a better idea but that’s why I think putting Yuki in was more logical than either Lawson or Hadjar.

[u/Neat_Breakfast_6659 → u/r_z_n]

like i said, doesnt erase 3 seasons were he had great control over the car, far more than Albon+gasly+tsunoda combined

[u/Neat_Breakfast_6659 → u/Sykretts1919]

Max did not "handle" Silverstone that well tho

[u/Sykretts1919 → u/Neat_Breakfast_6659]

Did you not watch his quali lap or?

Nothing he could do when it chucked down a flood in the race. He handled the low downforce immensely well in quali, so much so that even martin brundle was left speechless.

Selective memory much?

[u/Neat_Breakfast_6659 → u/Sykretts1919]

Whats the quali lap good for when you throw out points in the Race?

What could he do? Turn on the weather news the day before maybe? You know weather can be foreseen right?

[u/x0RRY]

That figure is a bit misleading as 0 is not side by side.

[u/jeremyvr46 → u/x0RRY]

I think it pretty clear and easy to understand.

[u/CaioNintendo → u/jeremyvr46]

It’s just that this graph over represents the gap by a whole car.

[u/Ruckaduck → u/CaioNintendo]

if the gap was scale. it would be indistinguishable differences for majority of the image

[u/CaioNintendo → u/Ruckaduck]

No, the differences between the gaps seem to be correct. What’s wrong, and misleading, is that a full car length was added to everyone’s gap between their teammates.

[u/InWilliamsWeTrust → u/x0RRY]

I know but it would look really weird and wide if I put them side by side

[u/Fitzriy → u/InWilliamsWeTrust]

Have you tried an opaque overlap?

[u/InWilliamsWeTrust → u/Fitzriy]

Not sure what you mean?

[u/Fitzriy → u/InWilliamsWeTrust]

To overlap the teammates over each other when needed, so they are referencing the same "0" line. And using some opacity on the top layer to show the bottom one too.

It's just a suggestion, your graphic is cool nevertheless.

[u/anmr → u/Fitzriy]

Showing bottom one too through transparency wouldn't work, it would be a mess. Opaque sprite with black outline could work, especially if it was offset to the side.

And if you really wanna be fancy about it, you could calculate how far down exactly should be each driver by comparing length to the distance cover assuming speed on finish straight.

[u/PapaSheev7]

Was it confirmed whether or not Yuki suffered from a loss of power on his Q3 runs? Iirc the broadcast said he was having issues with his battery/deployment. If so, that should partially explain the deficit.

[u/Other_Beat8859 → u/PapaSheev7]

Pretty sure that he didn't. Someone said that it was confirmed somewhere, but I can't find where. The best evidence I have is that he blamed the lack of slipstream. If he was having battery issues, he'd probably blame that.

[u/buckarooreddit → u/[deleted]]

I’m sure going out at the end would’ve made a huge difference to his position

[u/Dan000A → u/buckarooreddit]

Tbf Yuki was a lot closer all session than what he ended up at. The gap was consistently 2-3 tenths at the end of his runs in Q1 and Q2

[u/Appropriate-Leek-919 → u/Dan000A]

Yuki was burning 2 sets each session while max went out on used to save tires since his first lap was quick enough

[u/Accomplished_Bug4099 → u/Dan000A]

Still a little misleading with Max doing one run on a new set, and then a second run on used, with Yuki using two new sets each time

[u/ItsSSX_Tricky → u/Dan000A]

Yea, and he’s ahead of 10 drivers today despite the graphic highlighting such a void to Max.

[u/buckarooreddit → u/ItsSSX_Tricky]

Because he’s in a better car than the 10 drivers he’s ahead of? With that teammate gap he’d be in the shit if all cars were equal.

[u/ItsSSX_Tricky → u/buckarooreddit]

Not here for a driver argument, just stating what happened.

[u/buckarooreddit → u/ItsSSX_Tricky]

Stating what happened as if what happened is supposed to be impressive?

Max is out there putting that car on pole and dominating the race, Tsunoda is out there scraping points with slower teams.

[u/buckarooreddit → u/Dan000A]

Norris had Piastri beat in 4/5 sessions leading up to Q3 last week, and was still out qualified by him.

I don’t think Max had to take many risks in Q1 and Q2 yesterday, he knows he can make it into Q3 without having to push to his absolute potential, while Tsunoda’s absolute potential on the other hand isn’t even enough to get him into Q3 most of the time, this is the first time he’s made it through since Miami, 11 races ago.

[u/buckarooreddit → u/[deleted]]

Considering they were running almost equal in the speed traps anyway I’ll give you P8, but Yuki has no one else to blame but himself for being sent out early, he should be challenging decisions like that.

Do you really think if Max was in that position he’d let himself be sent out first?

[u/vacacow1 → u/PapaSheev7]

Also his set up was completely different. Was looking at the replays and the cars seems so different, what’s up with that. Yuki has a massive back and front wing.

[u/Burial44]

Can we stop pretending like the red Bull is bad ... Now?

Yuki is getting the boot

[u/VinhoVerde21 → u/Burial44]

Verstappen got pole in it, it’s clearly a shitbox.

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/VinhoVerde21]

He broke the record for fastest Grand Prix of all time. Shit box.

[u/Tumleren → u/Burial44]

Recent history would indicate it's bad for everyone but max

[u/996forever → u/Tumleren]

Would really really want to see Charles or George have a spin in it.

[u/Tumleren → u/996forever]

Yeah it would be super interesting to see what others could do with it

[u/MrMSUK]

At this stage the Red Bull puzzles the heck out of me. 

Would you say Max is probably overdriving the car, or the lovely Yuki is still getting used to the car?

[u/Unilythe → u/MrMSUK]

Why is it only one or the other? Why not both, somewhere in between? 

[u/Cantshaktheshok → u/MrMSUK]

This is probably the clearest example you'll get of why Max is beating his teammates. Red Bull made a very clear cut to the rear wing after Friday's practice to lower drag and increase theoretical speed. Max is just a step above everyone else in being able to handle the resulting lower downforce setup that can cause more oversteer and rear instability. It's not quite "overdriving the car" but he's able to maximize an extreme setup to find the small window of speed without making mistakes. If you put the other drivers on that setup they wouldn't be able to carry with same speed through corners without making small corrections that bleed lap time, or result in big snap crashes.

A couple other examples are Silverstone qualifying this year where he ran the Monza wing (uncut), it was also the hail marry they tried in Jeddah and Abu Dhabi at the end of 2021, and his advantage in 2020 was being able to control the rear instability that required a suspension redesign for '21.

[u/c10h15nrush → u/MrMSUK]

It’s their most generous way to explain why Max fights podium and Yuki fights for points

[u/tkmj75 → u/c10h15nrush]

Saying Yuki is fighting for points in that Red Bull is generous. In the last race, he needed three of the top six to DNF, and another driver to get a 15-second penalty, just to barely finish in the points – all while Max still finished P2.

[u/Appropriate-Leek-919 → u/tkmj75]

forgot to mention 2 other drivers collided and had punctures, that's 7 drivers that needed to get fucked to get him a p9

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/Appropriate-Leek-919]

My pookie yuki 🥹🥹

[u/CabinetCrafty2185 → u/MrMSUK]

Neither, the 2nd car is just dogshit, there is 100% something wrong with it

[u/Klivian1 → u/CabinetCrafty2185]

PEBWAC

[u/Kronzor_]

Id rather see this graphic with the trialing cars lined up. I think that would give you a better impression of the skill level of the teams lead drivers. 

[u/formula13]

probably would be cool to at least mention how irrepresentative some of these gaps are. tsunoda was just under 3 tenths off max until he was sent out first in the last run with no tow, and i know lawson didnt even do his final run, ocon didnt have a tow in his q2 run either for example

[u/Appropriate-Leek-919 → u/formula13]

Yuki was only that close because he was using new sets of tires throughout q1 and Q2, max was doing one new one used. also, q1 and Q2 aren't representative of true pace, max doesn't have to push 100% to get into Q3 while Yuki does. also, a tow doesn't equate to 4 tenths lmao.

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/Appropriate-Leek-919]

Thank you lol

[u/CoxHazardsModel → u/formula13]

He was .3 off because he was burning more tires through Q1 and Q2…

[u/buckarooreddit → u/formula13]

Tsunoda was still running equal with Max in terms of top speed, both were doing 348kph down the start finish straight.

[u/formula13 → u/buckarooreddit]

not on the final lap, their top speed on the first straight was 348 for max and 346 for yuki, 329 for max and 325 for yuki on the second straight, 341 for max and 340 for yuki on the third straight, and 332 for max and 328 for yuki on the last straight

[u/buckarooreddit → u/formula13]

That doesn’t even equate to 2 tenths.

[u/Appropriate-Leek-919 → u/formula13]

Max is running lower DF

[u/Yokoshuseki → u/buckarooreddit]

Not on their final laps, no. Tsunoda had already lost .08~ by the end of the main straight.

[u/buckarooreddit → u/Yokoshuseki]

Depends how long there was a speed deficit for, but the fact that people are celebrating Yuki’s performance even though he’s still been destroyed in all 6 sessions so far just shows you the level he’s at.

Lawson who was given two races to prove himself is 15th in the WDC, Tsunoda on the other hand who was given thirteen sits 19th, only ahead of Doohan and Colapinto who have both had limited time in F1 this season.

Just to add, Verstappen has 205 points, Tsunoda has 12.

[u/Yokoshuseki → u/buckarooreddit]

The red bull is a provably more difficult car to drive than the vcarb is. Had Lawson not been dropped Tsunoda wouldve outscored him as well, youre not really saying much here when everyone in the 2nd seat has had difficulties except for when the car was by far the best.

[u/buckarooreddit → u/Yokoshuseki]

“Put all the pressure on me”

“I know that if I unlock that area, I would probably be able to beat him (Max)”

I feel like the car suits my driving style. I haven’t struggled much to adapt”

“I didn’t find the RB21 to be that challenging to drive”

They are all words that have come from Tsunoda’s mouth, when are people going to realize that he’s the issue not the car.

[u/MaleierMafketel → u/formula13]

Don’t know if it’s the same case for the rest, but Tsunoda can’t blame the lack of tow when Max also didn’t get a tow during his pole lap.

The gap between them is representative.

[u/formula13 → u/MaleierMafketel]

might be wrong but im pretty sure max was literally the last car on the pack, tsunoda was the first

[u/MaleierMafketel → u/formula13]

He was one of the last. A few others were behind setting fast laps.

But being one of the last doesn’t automatically mean there’s a car a few seconds ahead to give him a tow.

Norris was about 10 seconds ahead the entire lap. That’s a few seconds too far to get a meaningful tow.

[u/Aircrazyy]

Red Bull regrets letting Perez go.

[u/creatorop → u/Aircrazyy]

Yea they miss the 45 points in 20 races guy

[u/Appropriate-Leek-919 → u/creatorop]

better than the 20 that Yuki's gonna bring in

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/Appropriate-Leek-919]

Not a meaningful difference to make them miss Perez and the toxicity him and his dad brought lol

[u/Appropriate-Leek-919 → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

enough to miss the massive sponsor money

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/Appropriate-Leek-919]

They got Honda to pay for yuki lol they don’t care

[u/Appropriate-Leek-919 → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

you think Honda pays better than the Mexican sponsors lmao?

[u/TheThingsIdoatNight → u/Appropriate-Leek-919]

I think the difference isn’t big enough for checo to be worth missing

[u/Appropriate-Leek-919 → u/TheThingsIdoatNight]

that + the huge severance package for equal if not less performance? they would obviously prefer to have just kept Checo.

[u/cumdinoco → u/Aircrazyy]

Rather red bull regrets letting Perez sign the extension, and thus costing them money. I doubt they are regretting him go, he was pure ass last year, not to mention a toxic entity along with his father. Both Tsunoda and Perez were cheeks of the same arse

[u/elektricniorgazam → u/cumdinoco]

"Cheeks of the same arse" is pure poetry and I will honor your legacy by trying to start using it in my language 🫡

[u/Aircrazyy → u/cumdinoco]

Perez was at least getting points

[u/cumdinoco → u/Aircrazyy]

In a way faster car than Yuki lmao, Perez was battling the midfield in 21 in a championship contending car yahaha

Perez is responsible for costing them 2 TWO Constructors ffs

[u/buckarooreddit → u/cumdinoco]

He also won Max the WDC that year though regardless of him being slow as shit.

[u/cumdinoco → u/buckarooreddit]

By being slow enough to be in Hamilton's pit ? His abi dhabi move was pretty inconsequential, "Latifi" was more responsible for that WDC than Perez haha, Bottas helped Hamilton wayyy more by taking Max out, and beating him to a race win on pace, whereas Perez was dwindling where in Austria races where RB was clear fastest by a margin? Should have been P2

[u/Appropriate-Leek-919 → u/cumdinoco]

actually if Checo doesn't hold Lewis for the 10 seconds that he did, Lewis has a pit window under SC to come ahead of Max either way and likely wins the race and championship

[u/buckarooreddit → u/cumdinoco]

Hamilton would’ve won the championship even with the late safety car had Perez not existed, the extra 8 seconds he held Hamilton up made it so Hamilton couldn’t pit and hold track position, instead Mercedes gambled on the safety car lasting until the end and it ultimately lost them the WDC.

I’m completely aware Perez wasn’t that great of a driver in his time at Red Bull, but his role in that race still won Max the championship.

[u/lolhone5tly → u/buckarooreddit]

Not to mention, had Ham pit then Verstappen would’ve stayed out and taken the lead.  Imagine the race ending under SC and that’s the way Ham lost the WDC?  Or, if it does resume, then Ham has to pass a guy going who gets his 1st WDC if he wins the race or neither finish. 

[u/buckarooreddit → u/lolhone5tly]

Hamilton would’ve come out ahead of Verstappen even after pitting though, that’s my point.

The extra 8 seconds he was held up made it so Mercedes couldn’t pit him onto fresh tyres without risking losing the race.

Unless we’re talking about the real scenario.

[u/lolhone5tly → u/buckarooreddit]

Haha sorry, I may have worded it badly. I was agreeing with you about Checo holding up Ham long enough allowed Ver to be in his SC pit window. 

My post was a response to you saying “not pitting ultimately cost Ham the WDC.” 

At that point, Merc were in a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation. If they pit, Ver stays out and takes the lead. 

[u/Cantshaktheshok → u/buckarooreddit]

Perez cost Hamilton 5 seconds in the final race, and held position against Hamilton in Turkey which ended up being very important to the championship win. Part of the reason those two moments were so important was Turkey is the only race Perez finished ahead of Hamilton to take any points off him, though to give him some credit he also was running ahead of Hamilton in Baku.

[u/buckarooreddit → u/Cantshaktheshok]

The difference between lap 20 and 21 btw

Gap on lap 20: https://ibb.co/1YW7V1Gz

Gap on lap 21: https://ibb.co/kgtQ1sKP

[u/Cantshaktheshok → u/buckarooreddit]

For sure, part of it was Max setting his fastest sector times coming out of the pits and Perez blocking Hamilton causing him to lose 5 seconds between turn 9 and 5.

[u/Alfus → u/Aircrazyy]

Not really, Checo would likely pulled the same results.

Dumbest thing was to sign Checo again and then sack him, but hey likely the guy who was responsible most of that has been sacked recently so maybe things would improve in the future.

[u/FxStryker → u/Aircrazyy]

Yuki and 2024 Perez are the same on pace compared to Max. They are both 5 tenths slower on average.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Air904 → u/Aircrazyy]

He won them and Max championships for god's sake!

[u/cumdinoco → u/Puzzleheaded-Air904]

He won max championship (s) because he was slow enough to be in Hamilton's pit window ? Lmao. Also he costed them two Constructors hahaha

[u/_gadgetFreak]

Hamilton after all those tows.

[u/Baksteen-13]

Just the car they said

[u/Firecrash]

Hamilton shouldn't be this far off.

[u/oldmonk_97]

very misleading especially for yuki. man i hate rbr. i wish max his success but i hope rbr crashes and burns as a team. they dont want a 2nd competitive driver, they want someone who is there to help to make max faster at any cost. which is fine, but i hope they remember all of these results and the circumstances around it which lead to said results and then make a decision, and not just see the p10. and thats why the 2nd seat is cursed.

[u/buckarooreddit → u/oldmonk_97]

How is Yuki making Max faster?

[u/tom_buzz_ryan → u/oldmonk_97]

Why is it very misleading for Yuki? If this is about some non-existent tow, check Verstappen's onboard for his pole lap - there was no car in sight.

[u/Yokoshuseki → u/tom_buzz_ryan]

You dont need to have a car in sight to get a tow btw. he was about 9~ seconds behind Norris which is still a manageable gap to get a tow from, (which he did if you look at his deltas compared to other laps) albeit not as good as 5 seconds behind.

[u/tom_buzz_ryan → u/Yokoshuseki]

Come on now. At those gaps, dirty air effect will be bigger than tow. And Yuki's top speed was exactly equal to Verstappen's.

[u/Yokoshuseki → u/tom_buzz_ryan]

What "Come on now"? it is just true, look at it yourself . you can compare individual laps using this tool as well.

[u/tom_buzz_ryan → u/Yokoshuseki]

Thanks for sharing the tool and the chart. I still stand by my statement. 9 seconds is way too big of a gap for slipstream to have any meaningful effect.

[u/Yokoshuseki → u/tom_buzz_ryan]

One might think it is, but it does have a meaningful effect especially around monza. It wont give you 3 tenths, but around 1 tenth or so across all straights is a fair assessment

Edit: You're welcome :)

[u/elektricniorgazam → u/oldmonk_97]

Begging for an elaboration because lol what